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LEONARD
01-27-2007, 09:31 AM
UFC 67 ON SUPER BOWL WEEKEND: FEBRUARY 3, 2007 IN LAS VEGAS
Main Card Bouts:
-Mirko Cro Cop (#2 HW) vs. Eddie Sanchez
-Anderson Silva (#2 MW) vs. Travis Lutter
-Quinton Jackson (#7 LHW) vs. Marvin Eastman
-Roger Huerta vs. John Halverson
-Scott Smith vs. Patrick Cote
Preliminary Bouts [bout placement is subject to change]:
-Ryoto Machida vs. Sam Hoger
-Tyson Griffin vs. Frank Edgar
-Jorge Rivera vs. Terry Martin
-Dustin Hazelett vs. Diego Saraiva
We could see 2 or 3 highlight reel KO's like we saw with Evans-Salmon on Thursday. Lots of mismatches on this card. Big names, but mismatches...
I hope the Tyson Griffin fight is aired...remember folks...future LW champ right there... :fro
Melvin Giullard going out due to injury sucks...I like watching him...
http://mmalowdown.com/2007/01/25/guillard-out-saraiva-in-for-ufc-67/
Crocop, Silva, Rampage, Huerta, Cote, Machida, Griffin, Martin, Hazelett are my picks...
LEONARD
01-27-2007, 11:56 AM
Funny photoshop thread...Crocop, Sylvia, others...
http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=973428&FID=1
LaMarcus Bryant
01-27-2007, 12:50 PM
time to get excited
LEONARD
01-27-2007, 01:57 PM
time to get excited
Please skip UFC 67 thru 198...
Mr Dio
01-27-2007, 04:57 PM
time to get excited
Just don't post anything anti-pride or go against the Le Wiz's OPINION or him and GayReign will get on ya! :lol
LEONARD
01-27-2007, 05:09 PM
Lutter - Silva article...
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=4278
and this 10 min UFC preview is pretty good...
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.Detail&gid=4249
IX_Equilibrium
01-27-2007, 05:59 PM
Interesting how in the Lutter-Silva article they compare the black belts of both fighters and how that translates to their upcoming match.
dallaskd
01-28-2007, 08:03 PM
this fight card wouldnt do anything for me at all if cro cop and rampage werent on it. i want to see an upset. go lutter.
mardigan
01-28-2007, 09:38 PM
^^Yeah, I agree with ya, Im just really excited about seeing Cro and Page, cant wait
LEONARD
01-29-2007, 10:00 AM
Sakakibara is supposed to be ring-side supporting Crocop...
http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/index.php?mainpage=news&news_id=990
Dream Stage Entertainment held a press conference at the Aoyama, Tokyo office on January 23rd to announce four fight cards for the upcoming February 24th event in Las Vegas, Nevada, PRIDE 33 THE SECOND COMING. At the press conference were CEO Nobuyuki Sakakibara and four announced fighters Takanori Gomi, Kazuo Misaki, Kazuhiro Nakamura and Hayato "Mach" Sakurai. These four PRIDE samurais will shock America!
"We have no intent to neglect the Japanese market. We have to return to the air waives this year. That is one of our biggest goals," Dream Stage Entertainment CEO Nobuyuki Sakakibara said in his first appearance since the January 2nd press conference. After Sakakibara greeted the gathered press, he announced the participation of four Japanese fighters in the February 24th Las Vegas PRIDE event.
"There are now several organizations competing in America, including the UFC and BODOG, but you can only find the Japanese samurai spirit in PRIDE. When we send fighters out, we do so with confidence that they will show the fans what a PRIDE fight really means and that is why we selected these four fighters."
These cards, however, were not put together solely to please the American market. Rather, they are to be examples of the standards required to fight in PRIDE. In short, these four fighters were chosen to show the American fans what it means to be a PRIDE fighter in a PRIDE fight. Nor will these fighters be taking on easy opponents. They will face some of America's most well-known and active fighters.
Sakakibara continued, explaining some of the attractions of these match-ups, "We have put together cards that will shock the Americans. We expect Gomi and Misaki to fight, and win, like PRIDE Champions against their opponents, who are aggressive fighters that have already achieved solid records and fame in the US. Kazu's opponent is not as well known but he has fought in nearly 50 bouts. Mach's opponent had a 16-fight winning streak in King of the Cage; originally trained in RAW and also auditioned in the first PRIDE tryouts in the US. I believe he will come out aggressively."
"No matter which fight you look at, there are no easy wins. We are entrusting the Japanese, PRIDE spirit to these fights," Sakakibara said, cheering on PRIDE's Japanese representatives.
While American's are proud of their country and often chant "USA! USA!" during fights that include foreigners, they also recognize talent when they see it. In the previous PRIDE event held in Las Vegas, Russian fighter Fedor Emelianenko received the loudest cheers, rather than his American opponent Mark Coleman, proving that the American fans recognize and respect true strength. On the other hand, the American fans hold nothing back when fights turn boring and all of the Japanese fighters announced today will undergo strict "testing" by the American fans. Will they be greeted with cheers or showered with boos? While winning and losing is important, these fighters will also have to give fights that will capture the hearts of Americans. According to Sakakibara, he has asked the fighters to begin learning English in an effort to form a closer bond with the American fans.
LEONARD
01-29-2007, 02:32 PM
Pinnaclesports.com odds...
Mirko Cro Cop -1151
Eddie Sanchez +851
Quinton Jackson -661
Marvin Eastman +601
Anderson Silva -351
Travis Lutter +321
LMAO at CC...
LEONARD
01-29-2007, 03:01 PM
More on Sakakibara
http://www.graciemag.com/?c=144&a=6272
and a little on Crocop...
http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/01/29/mirko-%e2%80%9ccro-cop%e2%80%9d-filipovic-is-modest/
LEONARD
01-29-2007, 03:27 PM
More odds... :lol @ CC...
http://www.sportbet.com/Lines.asp?IdLeague=253&IdSport=MU
ANDERSON SILVA -400
TRAVIS LUTTER +300
MIRKO CRO COP -1600
EDDIE SANCHEZ +400
RAMPAGE JACKSON -700
MARVIN EASTMAN +420
MajorMike
01-29-2007, 05:08 PM
Let's go San-chez... uh, uh, uh-uh-uh.
dallaskd
01-29-2007, 05:40 PM
their giving sanchez absolutely no shot
mardigan
01-29-2007, 07:50 PM
^^^No chance is probably more of a chance than he actually has
LEONARD
01-30-2007, 09:01 AM
Fight order...
Non-PPV Bouts:
-Dustin Hazelett vs. Diego Saraieva (opening bout)
-Tyson Griffin vs. Frank Edgar
-Jorge Rivera vs. Terry Martin
-"Lyoto" Ryoto Machida vs. Sam Hoger
Live PPV Bouts:
-Patrick Cote vs. Scott Smith
-Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. Marvin Eastman
-Mirko CroCop vs. Eddie Sanchez
-Roger Huerta vs. John Halverson
-Anderson Silva (c) vs. Travis Lutter (UFC MW Title - main event)
I don't know why Huerta / Halverson is the swing bout instead of Machida or even Tyson Griffin's fight... :dizzy
and here's some CC stuff...
Crocop training video / interview...
http://dnevnik.hr/naslovnica/vijesti/sport/20070129_10735_29623.php
translation
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=503253
and here's a preview for the undercard...
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=6625
Edgar, known as “The Answer,” has only been fighting for a year and a half and is already considered the best lightweight fighter on the East Coast. In his most recent bout at Reality Fighting 14, Edgar defended his lightweight title against Jim Miller by decision, even after having a piece of his cauliflowered ear literally kicked off his head.
:dizzy
desflood
01-30-2007, 09:42 AM
I know there's a lot of hate for Sam Hoger out there, but I actually like the guy. He's bright and has a decent amount of skill, if not the ability to finish. Mind you, I'll still be rooting for Machida :clap
LEONARD
01-30-2007, 10:16 AM
Hoger has decent skills, but he's a lying, thieving, douchebag... :nope
Found some of Crocop's fights on the forum on his site...brushing up on my Croatian :dizzy
http://crocop.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=68f88a14a76c0c449e2f16fe58ca1aa3
2centsworth
01-30-2007, 12:14 PM
crocop didn't look nearly as big or as confident in the 1st wanderlei as he did in the 2nd. In the 2nd Crocop looked unbeatable.
LEONARD
01-30-2007, 12:21 PM
crocop didn't look nearly as big or as confident in the 1st wanderlei as he did in the 2nd. In the 2nd Crocop looked unbeatable.
he was pretty new to MMA in that first fight...
LEONARD
01-30-2007, 01:27 PM
New CC interview...
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=4289
"Just ask Jake O’Brien, who last Thursday came out of nowhere to upset highly regarded Heath Herring, who like Cro Cop, came from great success in Japan"
A little off there, as Herring was crushed by the top guys in Pride... :dizzy
Mr Dio
01-30-2007, 05:46 PM
he was pretty new to MMA in that first fight...
So that's an excuse or a reason?
According to you everyone's first fight they should lose? :lol
You are truly, Le Wiz!!! :lol
LEONARD
01-30-2007, 05:55 PM
Wow...Crocop is making some bucks. MMAWeekly reported on their radio show that his 6 fight deal was 8 figures. Assuming that doesn't include sponsorship money, etc (it probably does in reality), that's 1.25M per fight. Not bad... :fro
Also, don't forget that UFC 67 is available in HD...1st time. For an extra $10...I guess I'll have to check it out to see if it's worth it...
cornbread
01-30-2007, 07:38 PM
Wow...Crocop is making some bucks. MMAWeekly reported on their radio show that his 6 fight deal was 8 figures
People complained for the longest time, with good reason, about how much UFC fighters were getting paid. Recently, Dana has really stepped up the paychecks for the stars of the league. It was only a matter time before the UFC could afford to pay fighters the way they should be paid.
BTW, I hope some of the matches are quick so that Machida and Griffin can make the tv card.
mardigan
01-30-2007, 08:27 PM
They deserve those checks, especially with ppv charging 50 bucks for every fight
LEONARD
01-31-2007, 09:11 AM
BTW, I hope some of the matches are quick so that Machida and Griffin can make the tv card.
Same here...I think there is a 100% chance they'll get on...
CC - quick
Silva - quick
Rampage - not sure...could be a tougher fight than many expect...Eastman isn't a joke
Here's an Anderson Silva interview...
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1053
LEONARD
01-31-2007, 09:45 AM
Who caught "Countdown to UFC 67" last night?
There were some moments that made me giggle...
Pride didn't sell the UFC any of CC's LHK knockouts...hahahaha. Rogan and Dana were going on and on about his high kick, yet all they could show was him kicking at Wand Silva and Silva blocking it. :lol They did give them footage of him beating down Heath Herring though... :lol
and Dana and Rogan hinting that CC could in some way be the #1 HW? Come on...there is no justification to make that case. Of course, Fedor is one of the few top Pride fighters that has never been mentioned by the UFC...
One of them intro'd CC as the "HW king" or something like that...huh?? :dizzy
Dana White dropped big Nog's name last night...I still say he's UFC bound soon. Of course while talking about CC vs Nog (Dana said he was ringside for one of their fights) they were showing CC vs Wand...no footage of Nog of course.
They talked about Rampage's wicked slams, but they didn't have footage of his best ones...
It's great seeing CC and Rampage in the UFC, but I still find it funny that so many jackasses are sitting at home thinking that they just brought in the best guys in the world based on what the UFC tells them. While CC is about as good as it gets, Rampage has been severely beaten 3 times since he beat Chuck (Wand twice and Shogun once). I still think he's good enough to beat Chuck as the underdog, but he's just not a top 5 LHW in the world right now...
I can't wait for Saturday...seeing CC get in the octagon is going to be wicked. It could be a huge negative for the UFC though. Sanchez's death would be a huge hit for the sport... :lol
DarkReign
01-31-2007, 10:26 AM
I can't wait for Saturday...seeing CC in get in the octagon is going to be wicked. It could be a huge negative for the UFC though. Sanchez's death would be a huge hit for the sport... :lol
:lmao
LEONARD
01-31-2007, 10:33 AM
Jeez...these odds...
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/1076/1495/139726.jpg
If I were betting on this event I'd be tempted to put $20 on Martin, Hoger, Eastman, Sanchez, and Lutter just for the hell of it. And Cote as a lock/favorite...
Mr Dio
01-31-2007, 07:08 PM
Wha????!!!
You'd bet against one of the 2 Slavs you love the most??????? :lol
LEONARD
02-01-2007, 10:23 AM
Many of the pre-fight interviews are up...
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.video
Scott Smith already looks a little beat up :lol
2centsworth
02-01-2007, 11:25 AM
No shame in losing to Wand and Shogun.
MajorMike
02-01-2007, 11:28 AM
Let's go San-chez... uh, uh, uh-uh-uh.
LEONARD
02-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Let's go San-chez... uh, uh, uh-uh-uh.
Let's go San-chez... uh, uh, uh-uh-uh.
Wasn't funny the first time...
even less so the 2nd time after ZERO response to the first...
Well done... :donkey
MajorMike
02-01-2007, 12:11 PM
Let's go San-chez... uh, uh, uh-uh-uh.
LEONARD
02-01-2007, 12:30 PM
Don't be upset that your Nascar thread is on page 2 with no replies after 1 day around here...
MajorMike
02-01-2007, 12:37 PM
Hahaha, dufus, you just replied to it.
LEONARD
02-01-2007, 12:49 PM
Hahaha, dufus, you just replied to it.
:dizzy
LEONARD
02-01-2007, 01:10 PM
Taken from www.Nokaut.com
A few hours ago Mirko Cro Cop lef to the US with his team members in high spirits. Only a few loyal fans appeared at 6 AM local time at Zagreb airport Pleso, to wish Mirko a good luck in his UFC debut.
Short interview:
Reporter: How do you feel before your UFC debut?
Mirko: I have no special feelings about it. I've been through a lot in my career. It's just a fight, like any other fight.
Reporter: We already talked about this. Every opponent deserves respect, Eddie Sanchez too, he has no defeats?
Mirko: I already said much about it, no need to repeat myself.
We'll fight and we'll see who will have whose head . :lol
They also got a few lines from Mirko while he was checking-in for the flight.
Nokaut.com: How do you feel this morning?
Mirko: Sleepy (laughing). I'm too old for this I guess.
Nokaut.com: Are you satisfied with your current condition?
Mirko: Yes, of course, I'm ready to fight.
Nokaut.com: Do you have your gameplan set? Have you seen any fight footage of Eddie Sanchez?
Mirko: The gameplan is to KO my opponent. I saw some clips.
Nokaut.com: A message to your Nokaut.com fans?
Mirko: Thank you for your support. Now I have a new challenge coming up and I hope you'll support me all the way.
video of him leaving
http://www.nokaut.com/?id=12&solo_news=691
--------
Seeing CC in the octagon is going to be surreal... :fro
cornbread
02-02-2007, 02:07 AM
Today everybody should take minute to say a prayer for Eddie Sanchez. Crocop might literally kick his head off.
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 10:10 AM
Today everybody should take minute to say a prayer for Eddie Sanchez. Crocop might literally kick his head off.
LOL...Sanchez predicts 2nd round KO of CC... :D
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1054
Press Conf Video (and everybody but CC - Sanchez is up...I wouldn't doubt if CC doesn't end up on there)
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=VideoPlayer.home&gid=4372
Press Conf Pics (no CC, had just landed at the airport)
http://www.sherdog.com/news/pictures.asp?n_id=6647
Lutter is F'd...
http://www.sherdog.com/_images/news/2007_02/6652.jpg
Silva will be too big and strong for him to get him down, or keep him down. Silva will tower over Travis, despite what heights are shown for them...
Here's a good write-up on the event, the state of MMA right now, and Sloan's picks...
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=6652
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=6652&my_page=2
MajorMike
02-02-2007, 10:20 AM
LOL...Sanchez predicts 2nd round KO of CC... :D
THAT'S what I am talking about... RIGHT there!
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 10:21 AM
Check the front page of youtube...the UFC finally decided to use youtube to promote their event...even though they'll still be having to constantly have the fights pulled form the sight after the PPV :lol
cornbread
02-02-2007, 11:36 AM
LOL...Sanchez predicts 2nd round KO of CC... :D
Gotta respect the confidence.
MajorMike
02-02-2007, 12:02 PM
People laffed at Broadway Joe, as well.
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 12:08 PM
People laffed at Broadway Joe, as well.
Broadway Joe wasn't a high school QB playing in the NFL though...
That's the equivalent to the severity of the mismatch of CC-Sanchez...
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 03:50 PM
......and the day before the fight and Crocop FINALLY has a picture on the UFC site...
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=517
The UFC webmaster needs an ass-kickin'...
MajorMike
02-02-2007, 04:03 PM
Broadway Joe wasn't a high school QB playing in the NFL though...
That's the equivalent to the severity of the mismatch of CC-Sanchez...
GO WITH THE DOG!!!
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 04:29 PM
Pays 8.5:1
Go for it...
I'm putting $1200 on CC to win $100... :fro
cornbread
02-02-2007, 05:00 PM
Haha. On his UFC profile Crocop mentions that he is a member of the Croation Parliament, which is the equivalent to the US Senate. How cool is that?
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 05:17 PM
Yep, he's a bad dude... :fro
dallaskd
02-02-2007, 05:40 PM
Im getting Excited! eastman has a real chance. depends how bad rampage wants revenge.
MajorMike
02-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Pays 8.5:1
Go for it...
I'm putting $1200 on CC to win $100... :fro
I got my bill down.
Mr Dio
02-02-2007, 05:55 PM
Haha. On his UFC profile Crocop mentions that he is a member of the Croation Parliament, which is the equivalent to the US Senate. How cool is that?
Like Jesse Ventura being the Minny Gov. :lol
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 05:58 PM
Lutter is +250 on bodog...but up to +400 on Pinnaclesports...
Sanchez is +1150 on Pinnaclesports :dizzy
Im getting Excited! eastman has a real chance. depends how bad rampage wants revenge.
I think people are under-estimating Eastman quite a bit and we don't really know what Rampage we'll get. I still worry that the beatings he took from Shogun...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bwIdbLCzqrg
and Wand (twice)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qMf-xOqhAiY
knocked him down a notch...he couldn't finish Lindland off in WFA.
Throwing down $20 on Eastman wouldn't be all that bone-headed IMO. I think the odds should be closer for this one...
LEONARD
02-02-2007, 07:32 PM
Weigh-ins...no sound for me for some reason...
Martin stripped naked and was 187...
Machida is RIPPED...Hoger looks like a turd as usual...
Rampage and Eastman appear to be in shape (understatement)...both made weight...
Sanchez weighed in at 320...he was carrying his tombstone ;)
Crocop 223 lbs...
Lutter naked and 187!! :o:o:o
Silva 185...touching foreheads with Lutter in the staredown...
Enjoy the fights...I'll be back Monday :fro
desflood
02-02-2007, 07:48 PM
Weigh-ins...no sound for me for some reason...
Martin stripped naked and was 187...
Machida is RIPPED...Hoger looks like a turd as usual...
Rampage and Eastman appear to be in shape (understatement)...both made weight...
Sanchez weighed in at 320...he was carrying his tombstone ;)
Crocop 223 lbs...
Lutter naked and 187!! :o:o:o
Silva 185...touching foreheads with Lutter in the staredown...
Enjoy the fights...I'll be back Monday :fro
I always knew you were the devil.
dallaskd
02-02-2007, 10:39 PM
if we had a vBookie for Ufc 67 i put my money on eastman.
desflood
02-02-2007, 11:09 PM
Hoger will outhustle and win his fight by decision. He's my underdog pick.
cornbread
02-02-2007, 11:33 PM
Im getting Excited! eastman has a real chance. depends how bad rampage wants revenge.
Beastman may not be the most "successful" fighter but he always deserves a chance. He's a tough SOB, isn't afraid of shit, is super strong and moves quickly. It should be a nasty battle.
cornbread
02-03-2007, 11:32 AM
Lutter failed to make weight so the bout will be a non-title match.
desflood
02-03-2007, 11:37 AM
Right you are. Final results:
UFC 67 - Final Weigh-In ResultsDespite two tries at the scale, TUF 4 winner Travis Lutter will not be challenging for Anderson Silva's UFC Middleweight Championship Saturday night after coming in at a final weight of 186.5 pounds, a pound and a half over the 185-pound middleweight limit. Lutter's first attempt at making weight was 187 pounds, and after two hours he was only able to lose a half-pound. Tomorrow's UFC 67: All or Nothing main event will now be a three round non-title match, with Lutter being fined 10% of his purse by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (5% going to Silva, 5% to the NSAC).
UFC 67 - Official Weights
Non-Title Middleweight Bout - Three Rounds
Travis Lutter (186.5*) vs Anderson Silva (185)
Eddie Sanchez (229) vs Mirko Cro Cop (223)
Marvin Eastman (203) vs Quinton Jackson (205)
John Halverson (155) vs Roger Huerta (156)
Patrick Cote (185) vs Scott Smith (185)
Preliminary Bouts
Terry Martin (186**) vs Jorge Rivera (185)
Frank Edgar (154) vs Tyson Griffin (156)
Sam Hoger (206) vs Lyoto Machida (203)
Diego Saraiva (155) vs Dustin Hazelett (156)
*Lutter was originally 187, and came back at 186.5 in his second attempt.
**Martin was originally 187, but came back and made the contracted weight in his second attempt.
IX_Equilibrium
02-03-2007, 12:17 PM
What a bonehead move by Lutter. How can you have such an opportunity and not make weight? He puts the UFC in a very bad position here. First of all, he makes the whole TUF concept pointless, being that the winner of TUF is supposed to get a title shot. Also, how bad will it look if Lutter actually pulls off a win? Silva would become a paper champ.
I was pulling for Lutter, but fuck him for not making weight.
dallaskd
02-03-2007, 05:43 PM
lutter is an ass. he blew away a once in a lifetime oppurtunity. i wouldnt give him another shot. i would let franklin, swick, or lister get the next shot.
dallaskd
02-03-2007, 05:45 PM
the eastman-rampage fight better fucking awesome cuz im pissed because i already bought Ufc 67 on pay-per-view
dallaskd
02-03-2007, 06:12 PM
i thinks its dumb their gonna fight a 3 round non-title fight. i hope silva KOs him in the first round.
dallaskd
02-03-2007, 08:00 PM
2 hours and counting... yeah...... whos ordering it?
Mr Dio
02-03-2007, 08:40 PM
2 hours and counting... yeah...... whos ordering it?
Ima gonna, of course! :lol
Not going to watch it out @ the bar..............gotta be full strength for the Super Bowl 2marrah!
desflood
02-03-2007, 09:22 PM
I've got it - and there are about six other people on their way to take over my home right now :lol
Mr Dio
02-03-2007, 11:08 PM
Rampage saying he's never been that nervous before.....He obviously was saying that the atmosphere and comp in the UFC is tougher..............was saying he'd never been booed before, :lol , he had nothing negative to say about.......He knows he's notin kiddie land anymore. :lol
Mr Dio
02-03-2007, 11:19 PM
Huerta didn't even "wind up" or crank the knee back........and hit the shoulder..........Huerta would've won the fight anyways.
Don't know what the Metrosexual white guy with eyeliner was thinking.
Rogan u idiot, go to Nippon and do pride or soemthing.......u r good for nothing else!! :lol
Mr Dio
02-04-2007, 12:03 AM
Silva got taken down by some of the sloppiest attempts, EVER!.............I like Silva but he needs to realize he isn't in pride anymore.
Mr Dio
02-04-2007, 12:07 AM
'bout time Silva woke up.
dallaskd
02-04-2007, 12:31 AM
this griffin-edgar fight is awesome
dallaskd
02-04-2007, 12:36 AM
silva-lutter really upset me. i wanted lutter to win but if he cant cut 2 pounds in 2 hours thats pathetic. i had to do that all the time in high school wrestling. i guess they dont eat/regulary. anyway im glad silva won so franklin or swick can have a title shot. i always thought silva was classy but he was a jerk after the fight.
dallaskd
02-04-2007, 12:37 AM
btw..cro cop was awesome. rampage looked off at the beginning but he pulled it together.
Rip-Hamilton32
02-04-2007, 01:26 AM
most of the fights were boring, putting sanchez in there with the best hw in the world and then lutter couldn't even drop 1.5 pounds for the fight of his life
desflood
02-04-2007, 02:37 AM
The thing was, Lutter dropped about 20 lbs. during two or three days before the fight. He didn't have another pound and a half left to drop. Cro-cop was great, though. Nice to finally see a real heavyweight in the UFC.
Martin/Rivera - literally, I went to the bathroom to pee and missed the entire fight. WTF?
dallaskd
02-04-2007, 11:48 AM
if you going to knock someone out in 12 seconds its gotta be better than that. but herb dean was the ref
IX_Equilibrium
02-04-2007, 03:20 PM
I thought this was a good UFC.
Cro cop was awesome as always. Sanchez was scared, and understandably so. Cro-Cop looked like a cold killer in there. No surprise at the outcome.
Lutter did alot better than the great majority of people predicted he would. So many were doubting that he would even have a chance to get Silva down. Well, he got a few takedowns, even putting Silva in a precarious position in the first roung getting a full mount and reigning down punches. I have to wonder how the match would have gone had Lutter not drained himself from cutting weight. You could tell that armbar attempt on Silva after the mount was sloppy, as well as his overall movements during the fight. Good job by Silva by ending the fight with BJJ. It's definatley better for the UFC that Silva won, but I would have loved to see a match where Lutter would have come prepared and have no problems in making weight and be 100% in the octagon.
Huerta made quick work of Halverson. Rogan was stupid on making a definative statement that Huerta hit Halverson in the head with a knee. It was clear on the last replay they showed that Halverson was hit on the shoulder instead. LOL at Huerta's comment saying that it wasn't his fault that Halverson wanted to play possum. In my opinion, it was a bitch move when Halverson told Joe Silva that the knee hit his head.
As far the Griffin/Edgar fight, WOW! I knew Griffin had skill but I had never seen Edgar fight before. I thought he'd be one dimensional as a wrestler, but he showed he had great boxing skills by throwing accurate combination counter punches. Also, he controlled Griffin on the ground much of the time and had some great reversals. Rogan again speculated on something which didn't appear to be true after replay review. He was wondering why Mazagatti didn't stop the fight after a supposed knee to the groin, and told Griffin to fight on. They unfortunatley never showed a slow motion replay, but I watched it several times and Edgar's knee was well above Griffin's beltline. No controversy though, because Griffin himself said that Edgar deserved the win. Both guys should be commended for a great fight. Edgar showed a ton of heart and will for not tapping at the end!
I knew the Smith vs. Cote fight was going to be a good one. Cote played it safe at the end of the 3rd round and always clenched because he didn't want to trade with Smith, who knew he had to make something happen. I can't say that I blame him. As we saw against Sell, Smith can knock you out at anytime!
Rampage put on a pretty good showing against a tough opponent. Also, Terry Martin lost some weight! Tough break for Rivera, he's a good guy. Despite the mismatches, I thought the night was pretty exciting.
Mr Dio
02-04-2007, 03:44 PM
Vera and Arlovski aren't real HWs? :lmao
The wrestling, pride and Truck/Tractor pull crowd is soooo knowledgable. :lmao
Talk about needing to get in the kitchen and stick to knitting! :lol :lol
What were the comments on the board about 'necks and how little they know about the sport??? :lol
IX_Equilibrium
02-04-2007, 04:02 PM
This was a hilarious moment.
http://upshizzle.com/up/pfiles/6478/Cote%20rocks%20The%20karate%20Kid.gif
desflood
02-05-2007, 08:48 AM
Rogan was high as a kite on Saturday. Half the time it makes him funny as hell and the other half it just makes him sound like an idiot.
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 10:16 AM
Crocop, Silva, Rampage, Huerta, Cote, Machida, Griffin, Martin, Hazelett are my picks...
8/9...easy card to pick really. I can't believe Griffin lost though...
Some of the comments in this thread are beyond any level of stupidity that I've ever seen...you know who you are...
Cote-Smith was "OK". But now the UFC fans boo when there's a clinch against the fence?? Not just when a fight goes to the ground. Wow. Then of course they boo'd Cote since he's Canadian. What a disgrace...
Rampage looked pretty good...definitely a slow start due to nerves...fighting in front of family and friends with a ton of pressure on him to come in and be the man. Not a big deal since he was fighting a B or C level fighter instead of an A level fighter like the ones that have kicked his ass 3 times in "kiddie land" since he beat Chuck. He'll be a little better next time. I'd like to see him fight Rashad or Jardine, or even Forrest. Get another win and get one of the pretenders out of the way. WTF was Goldberg talking about with Rampage possibly fighting Tito? Um, no...Rogan basically told him that would never happen. And what do you know!? More boo'ing by the drunken redneck crowd...simply amazing. It's pretty bad when fighters and commentators are even addressing it now. Even Dana at the press conf called out the drunken idiots that don't understand the sport... :lol
Halverson - Huerta...eh, whatever. Another loss by a MFS fighter... :lol
While building up to the Crocop fight Rogan mentioned that CC had won the Pride Open Weight Grand Prix in 2006 he looks off camera to somebody, gives the Rogan bug eyes "whoops" look, then has a "sorry about that" look and goes back to talking with Goldberg. He let the P word slip...lol. This was also the first time I've ever heard the UFC acknowlede that Fedor exists...lol
Goldberg to Couture in the booth just before the CC fight..."Good time to come back as a HW, eh Randy?" hahaha...I think Randy was offended by that...
Glad to see Crocop didn't sellout and wear some long shorts with Xyience all over them. He brought the checkered shorts and when he came out to the Pride music I was laughing my ass off...what a moment.
Poor Eddie never had a chance. That was like watching a Lion play with a little bunny rabbit before devouring it. A few of those kicks were so freakin' loud...very cool to hear the crowd reacting to them with "Ohhhhhhhh"...and wow, no boo'ing for the foreign fighter. What a surprise...
Gotta love CC in the post-fight interview...
Rogan: Mirko walk us through your fight.
Mirko: ...........
Rogan: uh... moving on
It seems pretty obvious that CC (as he's shown in the past) is only in the UFC for the money. I don't think he gives 2 $hits about where he fights or who he fights. He knows that taking the UFC HW belt isn't that big of a deal when you look at the talent he's faced in Pride. Hell, everybody knows it...Rogan, Dana, etc...all Dana talks about now is how he's going to "get them all" and have all oft he best fighters. I'll bet Tim Sylvia was a LITTLE bit pissed watching UFC 67 ringside... :lol
At the post-fight press conference, Dana was asked why Crocop wasn't there. The reporter says something like "You know you're paying millions of dollars to Crocop, you'd think he'd at least show up to the press conferences." And Dana replied "I agree, I absolutely agree" (emphatically). Then some lady says "Well, he does that with all other promotions too, it's not just the UFC." And Dana replied "Yeah well, I'm a little grumpier than other promoters, so we'll see who wins this. Crocop and I already butted heads on this yesterday." And then at the end he said "But yeah, as a promoter it is seriously fucking frustrating, and we'll just have to see what happens". But he did admit that most people will like Crocop whether he attends the press conferences or deals with the media or not, based on the cheers he got when he entered the arena. He acknowledges that people really just want to see who the best fighters in the world are, and makes the analogy with boxing where there are some really mean boxers that are really talented but have no personalities and don't like to deal with anybody.
Anyway, it's all in the UFC 67 post-fight press conference:
http://video.boxingscene.com/filess/ufc67pf.wmv
Oh and Dana was also asked what was with Crocop coming out to Pride theme song, and Dana said he approved it but assured everyone that he certainly would never have suggested that but he respected Crocop's request and allowed it anyway.
Can the UFC please update Anderson Silva's height?? He and Lutter were listed at 5'11" and Silva was at least 2" taller...
Silva didn't look that great, but he showed that he does have some ground skill. Lutter getting stuck in a triangle for a minute and half and eventually tapping to strikes was perfect justice for him missing weight. They better sign a stud ground fighting MW like Filho or Silva will be the champ for a long time. He's head and shoulders above the division right now. I like guys like Swick and Marquardt but I don't see them beating Silva...
Also, Silva had surgery on both knees 11 weeks ago according to Joe Rogan (posted on the UG forum Sunday morning)
From: Joe Rogan
Date: 02/04/07 08:29 AM
"Anderson Silva had knee surgery on both knees just 11 weeks ago. That was why he was so easy to take down, and that was why he couldn't squeeze 100% when he had Lutter in the triangle. I ran into his manager after the show and he told me the whole deal. His knees were still very sore. Later that night I ran into Anderson in the hotel, and he was limping like he was just double knee barred."
Damn... :o
Tyson Griffin let me down, but that was the fight of the night without question. Edgar was VERY impressive and will be a nice addition to the LW class. That kneebar attempt by Griffin at the end was sick! Rogan screaming - "Oh, I'm not even fighting and I'm tappin from that kneebar!!" :lol
Terry Martin called out Swick and the entire MW division...tap the breaks buddy!! He's a big dude for 185 lbs though...
and Hoger lost, which is always good. A thieving douche-bag AND another MFS fighter losing...love it!!
Sanchez post fight interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1058
Rampage post fight interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1057
Rampage's trainer is on beatdown radio
http://www.sherdog.com/news/radio.asp?id=129
Edgar post fight interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1059
Cote post fight interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1060
putting sanchez in there with the best hw in the world
Huh? State your case for CC as the #1 HW please :lol
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 10:16 AM
Links to the fights...some may be dead by now (only good for 100 DL's)
Crocop vs Sanchez (nsv)
http://download.yousendit.com/E69F4EEF586D3B98
Rampage vs Eastman (nsv)
http://download.yousendit.com/C748C19D296E2010
Silva vs Lutter (nsv)
http://download.yousendit.com/7BCCCC973FAFD1AE
John Halverson vs Roger Huerta (mpg)
http://download.yousendit.com/AF98AA4F44A0880F
Terry Martin vs Jorge Rivera (mpg)
http://download.yousendit.com/BAEECA20049BDC26
Tyson Griffin vs Frankie Edgar_Part 1 (nsv)
http://download.yousendit.com/E0418E8E301A5D86
Tyson Griffin vs Frankie Edgar_Part 2 (nsv)
http://download.yousendit.com/7605CD070D3A8C86
Patrick Cote vs Scott Smith (nsv)
http://download.yousendit.com/0DE42550554B24DF
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 10:19 AM
This was a hilarious moment.
http://upshizzle.com/up/pfiles/6478/Cote%20rocks%20The%20karate%20Kid.gif
LOL...yea, that was odd...Smith was obviously desperate to buy some time and Cote wasn't sure what to do.
Other funny moments...
Rampage - "Had to commit some black on black crime"
"Lutter is like the MJ of the grapling world...."
"Uh, no he isn't"
"Ok the Kobe!"
"Um, no."
:lol
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 12:08 PM
Here's a translated CC interview after the fight...
http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=981633&FID=1&pc=11
Interesting that he claims that he didn't know about the press conf and nobody came to get him (hard to believe!). Dana specifically said that they had already butted heads about it the day before. There's also mention about UFC 70 in England...and what do you know...CC is now on the list:
UFC 70: APRIL 21, 2007 IN MANCHESTER, ENGLAND AT M.E.N. ARENA
-Mirko Cro Cop (#2 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. TBA
-Tito Ortiz (#8 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. TBA
-Forrest Griffin vs. TBA
-Michael Bisping vs. TBA
-Dennis Siver vs. TBA
-David Lee vs. TBA
-Cheick Kongo vs. TBA
-Abdul Mohamed vs. TBA
-Jess Liaudin vs. TBA
-Elvis Sinosic vs. TBA
Feed him Kongo...hahahaha :lol
Or Hardonk if he ends up on that card...
More rumors about Vera leaving the UFC...
http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/02/03/another-vera-interesting-rumor-offer-on-the-table-to-leave-the-ufc/
Has to be either Elite XC, who has their first card this weekend, or Pride. Rumors have linked him to both. He attended the Elite press conf and also appears on the promo video discussing one of his training partners...
If he's being a pain over money with 1 fight left on his contract, feed him to Crocop and send him packing... :fro
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 12:25 PM
a couple pics..
This was my favorite kick of the night....I love a deeply sunk leg kick... :dizzy
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/toothandnail666/MMA/i.jpg
Nothing wrong with the high kick though...
http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&w=550&cs=1&s=8E8D7528-1422-0E8C-9A9C9082CB97638A.jpg
IX_Equilibrium
02-05-2007, 12:47 PM
Silva didn't look that great, but he showed that he does have some ground skill. Lutter getting stuck in a triangle for a minute and half and eventually tapping to strikes was perfect justice for him missing weight. They better sign a stud ground fighting MW like Filho or Silva will be the champ for a long time. He's head and shoulders above the division right now. I like guys like Swick and Marquardt but I don't see them beating Silva...
Also, Silva had surgery on both knees 11 weeks ago according to Joe Rogan (posted on the UG forum Sunday morning)
From: Joe Rogan
Date: 02/04/07 08:29 AM
"Anderson Silva had knee surgery on both knees just 11 weeks ago. That was why he was so easy to take down, and that was why he couldn't squeeze 100% when he had Lutter in the triangle. I ran into his manager after the show and he told me the whole deal. His knees were still very sore. Later that night I ran into Anderson in the hotel, and he was limping like he was just double knee barred."
I read this yesterday and am very cynical about it. First, there didn't seem to be anything wrong with Anderson's knees in October when he demolished Franklin. Second, 11 weeks ago was in November, and he didn't seem to he hobbling around at the UFN Finale when Lutter beat Cote. Lastly, how is 11 weeks enough time to recover from double knee surgery, train for the fight, and get cleared by doctors?
Rogan now doesn't think that Silva was squeezing 100% while applying the triangle? He changed his mind from his during the fight comments. Lutter was preventing himself from getting choked out because he had his hand creating distance, not because Anderson wasn't applying enough pressure.
I may be way off as far as the surgery is concerned, but I know Brazilians are notorious for excuses, even in winning. If there is one thing Lutter showed everyone, it's that if you don't stupidly run into Silva's game like Leben or Franklin did, he is not invincible. Don't get me wrong, I do respect Silva as a fighter, but guy's like Marquardt are probably way more confident in fighting him after seeing what Lutter was able to do.
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 01:04 PM
I read this yesterday and am very cynical about it. First, there didn't seem to be anything wrong with Anderson's knees in October when he demolished Franklin. Second, 11 weeks ago was in November, and he didn't seem to he hobbling around at the UFN Finale when Lutter beat Cote. Lastly, how is 11 weeks enough time to recover from double knee surgery, train for the fight, and get cleared by doctors?
Rogan now doesn't think that Silva was squeezing 100% while applying the triangle? He changed his mind from his during the fight comments. Lutter was preventing himself from getting choked out because he had his hand creating distance, not because Anderson wasn't applying enough pressure.
I may be way off as far as the surgery is concerned, but I know Brazilians are notorious for excuses, even in winning. If there is one thing Lutter showed everyone, it's that if you don't stupidly run into Silva's game like Leben or Franklin did, he is not invincible. Don't get me wrong, I do respect Silva as a fighter, but guy's like Marquardt are probably way more confident in fighting him after seeing what Lutter was able to do.
If he did have surgery it was no doubt a quick scope where he'd only be off his feet for a couple days. Maybe to clean out some crap or something? Probably wouldn't be too hard on him as far as missing training time goes...
Silva didn't throw a punch or kick for the first 90 seconds, which I thought was odd. I guess he was waiting for the takedown attempt??
If Silva was feeding Rogan BS (or whoever else he told) he must've done a good job because I don't think Rogan would go online and post it if he didn't believe it...
I think Marquardt has the best chance of anybody in the UFC right now. If they brought in Lindland I think he'd beat Silva. I don't know if that relationship will be fixed though...and I don't know that Dana wants such a goofy looking dude as champ (honestly).
I like Swick and think he'd be a good champ, but I don't see him beating Silva right now.
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 01:35 PM
Play by Play...some funny $hit in this...
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=6679
10:09 p.m. Some stern-faced Croat is shown — Mirko something. He doesn’t look so tough.
10:30 p.m. Anderson Silva is seen in his dressing room, cool as ice. He looks like he’s in the lounge of a club. Someone hands him a drink with an umbrella in it.
10:39 p.m. We’re back in Silva’s dressing room, which now sports a strobe light. In the background, staffers are busy installing a stripper pole.
10:46 p.m. Eastman comes out looking relaxed. And why not? He’s a prison guard by trade. Climbing in the Octagon must pale in comparison to fighting off sexually repressed men with homemade knives.
10:48 p.m. “Kick his f__in’ ass!” A Rampage fan advises Jackson on strategy.
10:59 p.m. Liddell is seen book-ended by two blondes. It doesn’t suck to be Chuck.
11:24 p.m. Silva is seen napping backstage, cradling a Vermont teddy bear. Two blondes are picking up their clothes off the floor.
11:29 p.m. Eddie Sanchez walks out looking like he’s on his way to a root canal during a Novocain shortage.
11:30 p.m. Mirko comes out to the PRIDE theme song, which prompts lots of giggling online. Some lucky staffer must have had a talk with him about the current popularity level of Duran Duran in the U.S. Mirko countered with his favorite Wham! track, but was refused.
11:33 p.m. In the ring, Cro Cop paces and waits to pounce. It’s surreal to see him in the Octagon. His quads are the size of Tito’s head.
11:35 p.m. Cro Cop and Sanchez receive their final instructions from Steve “Boogie Nights” Mazzagatti. (hahaha...his mustache is the WORST!)
11:35 p.m. Cro Cop stalks a backpedaling, doe-eyed Sanchez; the air is thick with tension. This feels like a Discovery Channel special about to go horribly wrong.
11:36 p.m. Cro Cop lands a glancing kick to the ribs. The audience oohhs and ahhhs, incredulous a heavyweight doesn’t have the striking ability of an amputee. To them, watching Cro Cop is akin to the introduction of color television.
11:41 p.m. Joe Rogan asks Mirko to talk us through his victory. Unfortunately, Cro Cop met his daily quota of syllables (seven) in the pre-fight interviews. He stares at the microphone until Rogan pulls it away.
11:53 p.m. “Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Lutter,” a Yoda-channeling Goldberg intones.
“No,” Rogan replies, mortified. “No, he’s not.”
“He’s not that good?”
“No.”
“Oh.”
11:54 p.m. I decide to give Goldberg a break. By my count, this is only his 71st UFC. He’ll get better.
12:02 a.m. Silva appears to be sipping from a Jack Daniels bottle between rounds. I fear he’s taking Lutter a tad too lightly.
12:07 a.m. A triumphant Silva screams some angry Portuguese. That shot of booze did nothing to calm him down.
12:08 a.m. A dapper-looking Wesley Snipes is seen applauding Silva. Blade is looking relaxed despite a recent TKO via tax audit.
12:10 a.m. Tim Sylvia (Pictures) is spotted drinking a Red Bull. Xyience executives immediately start making ominous jokes about “hunting accidents.”
12:13 a.m. Griffin walks out to Eye of the Tiger, immediately endearing himself to anyone under the age of 35.
12:13 a.m. Fired up and wishing to pummel some raw cow torso, I race across the street and ask my local butcher if I can beat his meat. He threatens to call the police. I return home.
:lol
desflood
02-05-2007, 01:40 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
IX_Equilibrium
02-05-2007, 02:06 PM
I guess he was waiting for the takedown attempt??
If Silva was feeding Rogan BS (or whoever else he told) he must've done a good job because I don't think Rogan would go online and post it if he didn't believe it...
I'd say yes since he knew that is exactly what Lutter was going to do.
Rogan's online posts are funny. His critisizms of Herring during the fight (which were justified in my opinion) which were pretty bold sparked alot of reactions. After he went online and posted a litany of what he meant behind those comments. He was probably scared of Heath coming after him!
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 02:51 PM
Yea, I like Rogan. He's obviously a fan of the sport (not just UFC) and tends to say too much at times. I'm sure it drives Dana crazy sometimes...
He knows the ground game too, which is cool. Goldberg on the other hand doesn't seem like he's learned jack squat even with all the events he's done...
Take a look at Edgar's post-fight interview...Rogan interrupted it...funny stuff
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1059
Checkout Rogan's site if you never have...he tells some funny stories on there.
http://www.joerogan.net/main.php
http://www.joerogan.net/main.php?archives=1
Start with the "porno party" :lol (work warning)
http://www.joerogan.net/main.php?archives=1&article=48246
and the fat black hooker (work warning)
http://www.joerogan.net/main.php?archives=1&article=37601
and his review of "Grizzly Man"
http://www.joerogan.net/main.php?archives=1&article=44092
:lol
LEONARD
02-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Damn...$350k flat fee for Crocop...I bet the actual number is higher, who knows for sure.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3385
$30k for Sanchez is a nice bump...figured it had to be something decent to take that fight...
Rogan on UFC 67 and Pride
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1061
Good interview...
Pride punk'd the UFC by bringing Wand Silva into the ring with a Pride shirt on. He said the Japanese have a weird way of doing business, but it's smart.
He'll be at Pride 33 in Vegas this month...seemed really excited about it.
He's a fan of the sport, not just the UFC. He talked about Pride, IFL, Elite, etc...
Gotta love Rogan... :fro
LEONARD
02-06-2007, 09:49 AM
Hoger vs Machida gif's...
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w5/a99223/ivesound_01.gif
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w5/a99223/ivesound_02.gif
Hoger took a beating in this fight and Machida just kept telling him to get back up...I love it :fro
DarkReign
02-06-2007, 09:53 AM
I like Rogan. I mean if you think about it, who could replace him? Hes a certified black belt, has TV experience, knows the sport inside and out from all perspectives, calls a pretty-darn good fight due to his knowing 90% of the time what he is looking at.
I like him. Calling an MMA fight would have to be difficult. There are ALWAYS so many options, especially on the ground, to even accurately predict or call a fighters next move is pretty damn good.
LEONARD
02-06-2007, 05:36 PM
Unaired UFC 67 - Lyoto Machida vs Sam Hoger
http://rapidshare.com/files/15232851/Lyoto_Machida_x_Sam_Hoger_UFC_67_-_www.slaytanic-slayervideos.blogspot.com.WMV
Hoger got smacked around :fro
dallaskd
02-06-2007, 07:09 PM
why wasnt it shown?
LEONARD
02-07-2007, 08:52 AM
why wasnt it shown?
Not enough time...it happens on every PPV... :dizzy:
LEONARD
02-08-2007, 11:14 AM
The last unaired prelim - Hazelett vs Diego Saraiva
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AADB8C1A
cornbread
02-08-2007, 11:28 AM
Here's a question. How do you guys think Machida would do against Anderson Silva? Machida has beat some great fighters. Could he be a contender?
LEONARD
02-08-2007, 11:41 AM
I think he'd do well, IF he could get down to 185 lbs...
I think he's a guy to watch at 205 lbs...certainly as much as anybody else not named Rampage that's in the UFC right now...
cornbread
02-08-2007, 11:50 AM
I didn't realze that his fight with Hoger was at 205. Machida looked pretty ripped so 185 could be a stretch for him.
LEONARD
02-08-2007, 11:57 AM
Yea, he didn't have much extra on him...that's for sure. If he didn't have to cut to 205 it might be possible. He'd probably have to lose some muscle to do it...
Hoger looks like a bag-o-snacks at 205 lbs... :lol
LEONARD
02-08-2007, 05:27 PM
Sam Hoger - The Ultimate Douche
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1068
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