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Spurminator 07-14-2005 01:29 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Which Ainge are we talking about... The "trade Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz" Ainge or the "Trade Gary Payton for Antoine Walker and get Payton back" Ainge?

Extra Stout 07-14-2005 01:29 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
I can't decide whether I'm just being a homer, or wrapped up in the day's activity, or what it is, but it sure seems like there is a deal that can be made for Pierce that would be beneficial to both sides.

ducks 07-14-2005 01:30 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
would the spurs trade nazr for sar instead of rasho
blazers do not want salary back

Extra Stout 07-14-2005 01:30 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurminator
Which Ainge are we talking about... The "trade Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz" Ainge or the "Trade Gary Payton for Antoine Walker and get Payton back" Ainge?

Ainge has been brilliant in the draft, at least.

clubalien 07-14-2005 01:31 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
pop did make a commitment to rasho going all the way to the country he lived and convence him to take less money to play for spurs

if the spurs show the loyality(DA), they might perfer to keep rasho insted of shipping him off, but with shipping sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_, mailk rose, da, almost letting david go to knicks, trading kerr, i guess the loyality argument won't work

still seems off for pop to recruit a free agent then suddenly ship him off therfore shipping nazr makes more since

timvp 07-14-2005 01:32 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Does anyone know who Luis Scola's agent is? Is it Herb Rudoy?

clubalien 07-14-2005 01:35 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
someone said in this thread that scola and oberto have the same agent so if the agent said soemthing it could mean scola nto coming, however the credibilty of a random person on a thread saying so is ahmm low

ducks 07-14-2005 01:39 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
I heard Oberto and scola have the same agent

50 cent 07-14-2005 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spurjur
That's what I was trying to say. Yes the Spurs will have to pay the rest of his contract, but no luxury tax. All I want is for Rasho to be moved. He is so soft it isn't even funny. The guy did a few good things this season no doubt. However, at 7ft you have to do more. Not just Rasho, but a lot of other 7fters. Its a darn shame that a guy with that size plays soft. The Spurs won't say it, but I will. Rasho is WEAK. The Spurs need to get a tough and rugid center. Its crazy that Rasho is getting paid like nobody's business and can't average double digit in rebounds. Ginobilli goes to boards with more guts than Rasho does. That isn't right! OK. I just had to get that off my chest.

For the 1289th time, the Spurs are not over the luxury tax threshold and there is a 0% chance the Rasho gets waived. Get a clue.

spurschick 07-14-2005 01:43 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ducks
I heard Oberto and scola have the same agent

I haven't heard that, but I do know that Oberto and Manu have the same agent.

timvp 07-14-2005 01:43 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
From what I've found so far, Scola and Oberto do NOT have the same agent.

Kori Ellis 07-14-2005 01:44 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
According to FIBA.com

Scola's agent is Claudio Villanueva.
Oberto's agent is Herb Rudoy. (also Manu's agent)

timvp 07-14-2005 01:47 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
According to FIBA.com

Scola's agent is Claudio Villanueva.
Oberto's agent is Herb Rudoy.

Good find. Thanks.

This confirms that Ford is just guessing that Scola isn't coming. If Rudoy was Scola's agent, he would have told Ford about what was going on.

Now I wouldn't rule out both Oberto and Scola coming ... but I think it's still unlikely.

waly.mg 07-14-2005 01:47 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Oberto-Scola vs Yao

http://athens2004.com/en/BasketBallM...=BKM400A09_C73

vs Gasol

http://athens2004.com/en/BasketBallM...=BKM400A06_C73

vs Yugoslavia
http://athens2004.com/en/BasketBallM...=BKM400A03_C73

vs USA
http://athens2004.com/en/BasketBallM...=BKM400202_C73

Olympic Final (Oberto Injured by Marbury)
http://athens2004.com/en/BasketBallM...=BKM400101_C73

waly.mg 07-14-2005 01:50 PM

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HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Manu is the Agent of Both ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

Cant_Be_Faded 07-14-2005 01:51 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
it doesnt matter he'll be on the IR

gus 07-14-2005 01:52 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Bad info. Herb Rudoy is NBA correspondent of Interperformances Agency. Claudio VIllanueva can be the general agent of Scola, but for dealing NBA contracts you have to have a NBA authorised agent. I'm 100 % that Claudio VIllanueva can't deal in the NBA, that't the reason why Herb Rudoy can be the agent for Scola too.

Gus

Kori Ellis 07-14-2005 01:54 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gus
Bad info. Herb Rudoy is NBA correspondent of Interperformances Agency. Claudio VIllanueva can be the general agent of Scola, but for dealing NBA contracts you have to have a NBA authorised agent. I'm 100 % that Claudio VIllanueva can't deal in the NBA, that't the reason why Herb Rudoy can be the agent for Scola too.

Gus

Thanks Gus.

I don't see anywhere that Rudoy is listed as affiliated with Scola. But I'll take your word for it.

waly.mg 07-14-2005 01:58 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Michaels
no scola? DDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN


what are Oberto's stats and height?

6´9´´
14 Points and 7 rebounds

clubalien 07-14-2005 01:58 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
so we confirmed legal claudio cannot be his agent with NBA , but that doesn't mean rudoy has to be either

waly.mg 07-14-2005 02:00 PM

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Of course

timvp 07-14-2005 02:01 PM

Re: Ford: Oberto is coming; Scola not coming
 
I found on another site that says that Scola's agent is Carlos Raffaelli. It appears that Raffaelli and Villanueva are partners. They also represent Nocioni, Kammerichs and Hermann, according to what I've found so far.

Quote:

According to a media source in Argentina, Anders Nocioni from TAU Vitoria has boarded a plane with his agent Claudio Villanueva paid for by the Bulls and is on his way to Chicago to negotiate a contract for next season.

Nocioni was supposed to arrive today in Cordoba, Argentina to began preperations for the 2004 Olympics in Athens with his national team.

His agent, Villanueva admitted that talks are indeed taking place. He also said that much depends on Nocioni's team in Vitoria, who he has a contract with for another two years, with a large buyout sum rumored to be in the area of 2 million dollars, if not more. In spite of that, the agent says that in his opinion on a scale of 1 to 10 he sees the chances as a 7.5 to 8.5 for Nocioni to be in Chicago this season.
So I guess that he is NBA certified or whatever.

This is good news for those who want Scola to come over this year.

waly.mg 07-14-2005 02:02 PM

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He´s a National Team Manu´s Partner Since 1999


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