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    Of both Duncan and Blair affect their game? Does the weight loss make them more or less effective?

    Duncan's lost 20lbs this summer, does that make him more agile what about his endurance? That's gotta be good for his knees, along with the long regular season he'll be a lot fresher when the playoffs begin yah? I'm guessing he's gotten a lot stronger as well, shedding fat, getting leaner.



    Blair depends on his physicality, he's dropped a considerable amount of weight, 20+lbs yes? Does the extra weight loss affect his ability to bang down low?


    Also, anyone know the last time Duncan was @ 240lbs?

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    Of both Duncan and Blair affect their game? Does the weight loss make them more or less effective?

    Duncan's lost 20lbs this summer, does that make him more agile what about his endurance? That's gotta be good for his knees, along with the long regular season he'll be a lot fresher when the playoffs begin yah? I'm guessing he's gotten a lot stronger as well, shedding fat, getting leaner.



    Blair depends on his physicality, he's dropped a considerable amount of weight, 20+lbs yes? Does the extra weight loss affect his ability to bang down low?


    Also, anyone know the last time Duncan was @ 240lbs?



    i think lost 20lbs affect duncan's power,post defense and offense,duncan should get more muscles while shedding fat.

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    I think the weight loss will help Duncan's agility and ability to get up and down the court. It will also reduce knee strain. Also Duncan doesn't need weight to post up like he used to. I believe Duncan has that LAST CHANCE mentality and is going to be a beast when it counts! Blair should not slim down to much since he is a rebounder and a banger, but more importantly it's what's happening between his ears that counts and I think we are going to see something real special from this youngster.

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    Of both Duncan and Blair affect their game? Does the weight loss make them more or less effective?

    Duncan's lost 20lbs this summer, does that make him more agile what about his endurance? That's gotta be good for his knees, along with the long regular season he'll be a lot fresher when the playoffs begin yah? I'm guessing he's gotten a lot stronger as well, shedding fat, getting leaner.



    Blair depends on his physicality, he's dropped a considerable amount of weight, 20+lbs yes? Does the extra weight loss affect his ability to bang down low?


    Also, anyone know the last time Duncan was @ 240lbs?
    How do you know that Duncan has lost 20 lbs.? Link?

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    How do you know that Duncan has lost 20 lbs.? Link?
    Same Q. but on Blair.
    Link to Blair losing 20?

    Agree pounds/schmounds. Its more about fat and muscle %.

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    i heard he did he so he can play PF now instead of center

    for example

    here is what the best lineup would look like if he played center

    parker pg
    manu sg
    RJ sf
    mcdyess pf
    duncan c

    and here is what it would be if he played PF

    parker pg
    manu sg
    RJ sf
    duncan pf
    mcdyess c

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    Duncan Will Be Fine..... He Has Mcdyess, Blair, and Now Ratliff To Do Alot Of dirty Work Now. He Didnt Have That Luxury The Last Few Years. Now Tim Can Focus On Scoring, Playing Good Help Defense, And He doesnt have to Snag Every Board Anymore With Blair And Mcdyess there. Plus The Less Weight On his Knee the Better..... And With Blair, Even If He lost 20 lbs, He is still Gonna be Heavier then Just ABout Every Power Forward in the game.

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    I think it was mentioned in the Johnny Ludden article that Duncan shed weight. Not sure how much though.

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    i heard he did he so he can play pf now instead of center

    for example

    here is what the best lineup would look like if he played center

    parker pg
    manu sg
    rj sf
    mcdyess pf
    duncan c

    and here is what it would be if he played pf

    parker pg
    manu sg
    rj sf
    duncan pf
    mcdyess c
    what will it look like with bonner in the lineup?

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    I think they're ing up by making Blair lose weight. The last Spur they wanted to lose weight just for the sake of losing weight that actually did so was Malik around 2004...was a disaster and he was never the same player again.

    I can sit there and watch the guy play and see easily that his weight and how he uses it is a big part of his game and power.

    If it aint broke don't fix it.

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    Fat is an advantage for sumo wrestlers.

    Tim and Blair will be fine with 20 - 30 pounds less weight, amplified by rapid acceleration/deceleration, on their weak knees.

    Moving to position and to the ball are the most important.

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    I don't know about Blair, we'll see..

    As for Duncan..if it didn't benefit him, he wouldn't do it..simple as that..

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    I would think losing weight would be Beneficial in TD’s case making him more agile and quicker first step. In the case of Blair I think it helps to a point as well in his overall athleticism, but not to over due it.
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    i heard he did he so he can play PF now instead of center

    for example

    here is what the best lineup would look like if he played center

    parker pg
    manu sg
    RJ sf
    mcdyess pf
    duncan c

    and here is what it would be if he played PF

    parker pg
    manu sg
    RJ sf
    duncan pf
    mcdyess c
    I LOL'ed

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    Duncan inherent strength is his mind + legs and a broad backside (plus long arms) + he will be fine!

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    For one thing, If you wanna stay sharp, the weight you've lost should be fat, and I suspect that Duncan's body fat stays at a high level over the last couple years, that's why his knees are strained.

    Speaking for myself, I lost about 20 lbs in last 3 months and that did not affect my power in paint. I used to be 40 lbs more than today, and in those days, when I played basketball for about 2-3 hours, I felt pain in my knees, Which is no longer a problem today. So my conclusion is, The lost of fat will make Duncan much more durable, while his dominance in paint won't hurt.

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    Yea, they are cutting fat which is a huge plus Their cardio will be a lot better and they should be stronger and quicker as well.

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    How do you know that Duncan has lost 20 lbs.? Link?
    It's 15 pounds according to Ludden. Don't know where 20 came from.

    Popovich said Duncan has lost 15 pounds and now weighs 240...
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132942

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    Kenny Thomas slimmed down so he could play power forward in the NBA, and the extra quickness served him well. He was one of the few tweener forwards to average a double-double in the league back in his Philly days.

    Blair probably has more potential than Thomas did, but the two have similar builds. Losing weight does not necessarily translate to losing strength.

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    Kenny Thomas slimmed down so he could play power forward in the NBA, and the extra quickness served him well. He was one of the few tweener forwards to average a double-double in the league back in his Philly days.

    Blair probably has more potential than Thomas did, but the two have similar builds. Losing weight does not necessarily translate to losing strength.
    Indeed. Both Duncan and Blair have extremely strong bases so I don't see either being affected by the weight loss.

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    Exactly. In the NBA, quickness becomes just as important as well. Blair was lacking some quickness and not lacking any strength. He has improved in one area by losing weight while not losing anything of importance in another. Just a smart move.

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    less pressure on the knees maybe?

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    i heard he did he so he can play PF now instead of center

    for example

    here is what the best lineup would look like if he played center

    parker pg
    manu sg
    RJ sf
    mcdyess pf
    duncan c

    and here is what it would be if he played PF

    parker pg
    manu sg
    RJ sf
    duncan pf
    mcdyess c
    Lineups and matchups are a bit different. TD has verbally stated many times over the last two years that he doesn't want to play the other teams 5, so I think you oversimplify it a bit. I have no doubt that late in games TD will be on the other teams best big no matter what, but grinding all game long appears to have taken a toll on him into the latter part of the season.

    The loss of the 15 lbs hopefully saves those knees a bit, and being that the western conference is laking bruising bigs like Shaq and Yao this year I would think it made the decision to shed some weight a bit easier...just a guess on my part.

    Either way, logic says it will improve his first step some. Early last year his first step looked the best it had since the Mavs series in '06, but alas, the tendonosis caught up with him late in the year

    From the article, it sounded like Pop was going to have Timmy do much less pre-season work that he normally did. I think Pop probably sees the big picture and knows that Timmy's body can't take the load it took before.

    I will never forget when Tony Dorsett got picked up by the Broncos and was running a simple route in practice and blew his knee out. From all accounts that I can recall his knee just gave way from all the stress that had come before. Age seems to do that with us old people

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    They weren't finished with their conditioning after losing 15 lbs apiece, anyway. I'm sure they're both continuing their workouts and will probably be in the best shape of their lives, save their knees.

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    how could you have not gotten that joke?

    it was the one of the most idiotic things ever typed on spurstalk, you took it seriously and all you came with was
    I think you oversimplify it a bit

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