Fundamentalist Schools Using "Nessie" To Disprove Evolution

[ElNono]

The debate between creationists and proponents of evolution isn't ending any time soon, but now some creationists have a secret weapon, "Nessie!" Certain fundamentalist schools in Louisiana plan to teach children that the Loch Ness monster is real in a bid to disprove Darwin's theory of evolution. From the article: "One ACE textbook – Biology 1099, Accelerated Christian Education Inc – reads: 'Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence. Have you heard of the "Loch Ness Monster" in Scotland? "Nessie" for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur.' Another claim taught is that a Japanese whaling boat once caught a dinosaur. It's unclear if the movie Godzilla was the inspiration for this lesson."

[Oh, Gee!!]

if the loch ness monster exists, evolution is false. seems airtight to me.

[ElNono]

[baseline bum]

Pretty impressive for Nessie to live 65 million years tbh.

[DarrinS]

Just let them also watch "An Inconvenient Truth" and we'll call it a wash.

[baseline bum]

Textbooks of some state-funded Christian schools praise the Ku Klux Klan.

The violent, racist organisation, which still exists in the US, advocates white supremacy, white nationalism and anti-immigration.

One excerpt from Bob Jones University Press American history textbook has been reported as saying: "the [Ku Klux] Klan in some areas of the country tried to be a means of reform, fighting the decline in morality and using the symbol of the cross ... In some communities it achieved a certain respectability as it worked with politicians."

[Blake]

God bless

[clambake]

this thread is shit without a crookskanks post.

[MannyIsGod]

[RandomGuy]

The debate between creationists and proponents of evolution isn't ending any time soon, but now some creationists have a secret weapon, "Nessie!" Certain fundamentalist schools in Louisiana plan to teach children that the Loch Ness monster is real in a bid to disprove Darwin's theory of evolution. From the article: "One ACE textbook – Biology 1099, Accelerated Christian Education Inc – reads: 'Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence. Have you heard of the "Loch Ness Monster" in Scotland? "Nessie" for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur.' Another claim taught is that a Japanese whaling boat once caught a dinosaur. It's unclear if the movie Godzilla was the inspiration for this lesson."

Boston-based researcher and writer Bruce Wilson, who specialises in the American political religious right, compares the curriculum to Islamic fundamentalist teaching.

"They are being brought up to believe that they're at war with secular society. The only valid government would be a Christian fundamentalist government. Obviously some comparisons could be made to Islamic Fundamentalists in schools.

"One of these texts from Bob Jones University Press claims that dinosaurs were fire-breathing dragons. It has little to do with science as we currently understand. It's more like medieval scholasticism."

Wilson believes that such teaching is going on in at least 13 American states.

"There's a lot of public funding going to private schools, probably around 200,000 pupils are receiving this education," he And the majority of parents now home schooling their kids are Christian fundamentalists too. I don't believe they should be publicly funded, I don't believe the schools who use these texts should be publicly funded."

You can only believe in this kind of stupid shit for so long when the truth is so obvious.

[boutons_deux]

what's in the ACE curriculum?

Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence.

Have you heard of the `Loch Ness Monster' in Scotland? `Nessie,' for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur.

Could a fish have developed into a dinosaur? As astonishing as it may seem, many evolutionists theorize that fish evolved into amphibians and amphibians into reptiles. This gradual change from fish to reptiles has no scientific basis. No transitional fossils have been or ever will be discovered because God created each type of fish, amphibian, and reptile as separate, unique animals. Any similarities that exist among them are due to the fact that one Master Craftsmen fashioned them all."

Extract from Biology 1099, Accelerated Christian Education Inc. (1995)

5 Even Worse Lies from Accelerated Christian Education),

- Science Proves Homosexuality is a Learned Behavior
- The Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evolution
- No Transitional Fossils Exist
- Humans and Dinosaurs Co-Existed
- Evolution Has Been Disproved
- A Japanese Whaling Boat Found a Dinosaur
- Solar Fusion is a Myth


Science

The ACE curriculum includes no practical science and accordingly no investigation. This would be troublesome for any ACE student embarking on a science higher education course.

"The PACEs are based on the reading comprehension mode of learning... There is no room within this method of learning for the negotiation of topics, for whole class problem solving, for the generation of ideas, for the formulating and testing of hypotheses, discussion of results and social application."10

...Rather than weighing evidence objectively, the ACE system rejects any science that contradicts the Bible, stating:

"True science will never contradict the Bible because God created both the universe and Scripture...If a scientific theory contradicts the Bible, then the theory is wrong and must be discarded."

Science

The ACE curriculum includes no practical science and accordingly no investigation. This would be troublesome for any ACE student embarking on a science higher education course.

"The PACEs are based on the reading comprehension mode of learning... There is no room within this method of learning for the negotiation of topics, for whole class problem solving, for the generation of ideas, for the formulating and testing of hypotheses, discussion of results and social application."10

...Rather than weighing evidence objectively, the ACE system rejects any science that contradicts the Bible, stating:

"True science will never contradict the Bible because God created both the universe and Scripture...If a scientific theory contradicts the Bible, then the theory is wrong and must be discarded."

Bob Jones University Press textbooks are the following:

- Only ten percent of Africans can read or write, because Christian mission schools have been shut down by communists.
- "the [Ku Klux] Klan in some areas of the country tried to be a means of reform, fighting the decline in morality and using the symbol of the cross... In some communities it achieved a certain respectability as it worked with politicians."
- "God used the 'Trail of Tears' to bring many Indians to Christ."
- It "cannot be shown scientifically that that man-made pollutants will one day drastically reduce the depth of the atmosphere's ozone layer."
- "God has provided certain 'checks and balances' in creation to prevent many of the global upsets that have been predicted by environmentalists."
- the Great Depression was exaggerated by propagandists, including John Steinbeck, to advance a socialist agenda.
- "Unions have always been plagued by socialists and anarchists who use laborers to destroy the free-enterprise system that hardworking Americans have created."
- Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential win was due to an imaginary economic crisis created by the media.
- "The greatest struggle of all time, the Battle of Armageddon, will occur in the Middle East when Christ returns to set up his kingdom on earth."

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/155926

[DMX7]

Just let them also watch "An Inconvenient Truth" and we'll call it a wash.

LOL, I'm sure you think that's a wash.

[baseline bum]

- The Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evolution

That's by far the funniest one.

[Spurminator]

Just let them also watch "An Inconvenient Truth" and we'll call it a wash.

No, it will be a wash when that is mandated in the school, and instead of Al Gore's film it's a non-scientific YouTube video produced by the Church of Global Warming Imminence.

It's crazy that you see an article like this and immediately go into Red Team Defense mode. Don't you think?

[Jacob1983]

How is it possible for a human being to know 100 percent without a doubt know definitively how the Earth was created? If that human exists, can that human tell me the winning numbers of the Texas Lottery for this coming Wednesday please?

[scott]

How is it possible for a human being to know 100 percent without a doubt know definitively how the Earth was created? If that human exists, can that human tell me the winning numbers of the Texas Lottery for this coming Wednesday please?

Ironically, the only people claiming to know with 100% certainty are the one's whose only evidence is a book that an invisible man in the sky sent his zombie son (who is also himself) to earth to save us.

[Blake]

How is it possible for a human being to know 100 percent without a doubt know definitively how the Earth was created? If that human exists, can that human tell me the winning numbers of the Texas Lottery for this coming Wednesday please?

Right, because knowing the past = knowing the future

[DarkReign]

How is it possible for a human being to know 100 percent without a doubt know definitively how the Earth was created? If that human exists, can that human tell me the winning numbers of the Texas Lottery for this coming Wednesday please?

You have completely missed the entire point of science and how it reckons itself.

[admiralsnackbar]

You have completely missed the entire point of science and how it reckons itself.

At the same time, the same question can be put to religions whose cosmogonies are purported to explain everything according to received interpretations (by some of their believers, at least). Less obliquely: how can religious people be so confident in their interpretation of scripture as to rule out something like the heliocentric model? Clearly they objected to that "attack on doctrine" for centuries, but in the end, heliocentrism's ultimate irrefutability came at no expense to Christianity besides the wounded pride/vanity (aren't those sinful anyway?) of the Catholic theologians who were offended by a model they didn't create themselves.

I honestly don't understand how Fundamentalists can pledge themselves to a "literal" understanding of the bible yet reconcile the differing accounts by the apostles; or selectively choose which passages of the OT they will honor (ex: "gays are an abomination") while ignoring equally strong passages about other things (shellfish, menstruating women). That whole movement is categorically undone by the unrelenting vanity of its leadership, who can accept no account but the one they themselves invent to suit their purposes. /statingtheobvious