World Wrestling Entertainment thread

[TheCultOfPersonality]

has the blue case ever not had a pussy cash in?

No, but then again outside of RVD and Cena every other cash in has been a pussy cash in.

[Spursfan092120]

If Vince had a brain...

Get Roman Reigns away from The Shield, he has the look and enought skill/mic skill to make it work. Put him in a feud with Ryback.

Start working on a huge CM Punk/Daneil Bryan feud. Which will carry on until Wrestlemania, that will be the man event.

Randy Orton and Brock Lesnar...why not?

Cena will be back in time for Wrestlemania so why not put him in a feud with Alberto Del Rio?

Imagine Mark Henry and Big E. Langston as a tag team. the Miz and Ziggler as a tag team.

Curtis Axle and Wade Barrett...hmmm?

Not too late to turn Kane back into the monster. A Big Show vs Kane feud.

Dump the Fandango bit, do something else with the guy.

What I didn't get was when did RVD become some legendary performer, he was never all that. A second tier performer at best.

Hopefully Jericho will be back for Wrestlemania.

Obviously the talent right now is at an all time low, no wonder they are trying to manufacture a star in Bryan. Without...Michaels, Cena, TripleH, The Rock, The Undertaker, Stonecold....they need some help.

Roman Reigns has no mic skill...where the do you get he has mic skill? He's the one who never talks..Ambrose has the talent of that groupPERIOD

CM Punk/Daniel Bryan would be a great fued. They're best friends, and would work great together. I agree 100%

Orton/Lesnar could work...but it won't happen...Lesnar won't be in long enough to build something that makes sense. Plus you'd have to turn Orton face again...that won't be happening anytime soon.

Cena will be back at the Rumble, and immediately put back into the le picture. Orton/Cena at WM for the belt...I'm calling it now.

I agree Henry needs to team with another big...but not Langston..Show. Henry and Big Show would be phenomenal. Miz and Ziggler might work, if Ziggler wasn't too big to be in a tag team. The big stars don't usually stay in teams long...singles is where it's at when it comes to storylines.

Axel/Barrett would work...but not until Axel dumps Heyman.

Kane will be a monster...but a face monster, when he returns and destroys the Wyatt's. Then he'll go back to the normal guy...it was working, why stop it?

Agree with the Fandango statement. He needs to be a psycho guy...along the lines of Jericho when he smashed HBK's face into the television.

RVD is amazing. If you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you. It's not just his performance...it's his ability to sell. Ziggler has the same talent. He's phenomenal, and always keeps the crowd behind him.

I hope Jericho will be back too, though he doesn't have a timetable. He says right now he's not a WWE wrestler...though he thinks he will be again.

The talent is not at an all time low by any means..they just weren't prepared. This is a problem with the WWE..they don't build up their mid card talent enough to make them main event talent in case of emergencies. Sandow could be phenomenal...instead he's going to lose on Smackdown in a couple of minutes to Santino Marella. I like what they're doing with Cody Rhodes right now...they're going to build him up into something special, I think.

On a side note, I hate what they're doing with Ryback...the bully thing is done...it's taking him to the back of the line. How you take a guy that big and make him look like a pussy is beyond me.

[Trainwreck2100]

Roman Reigns has no mic skill...where the do you get he has mic skill? He's the one who never talks..Ambrose has the talent of that groupPERIOD

CM Punk/Daniel Bryan would be a great fued. They're best friends, and would work great together. I agree 100%

Orton/Lesnar could work...but it won't happen...Lesnar won't be in long enough to build something that makes sense. Plus you'd have to turn Orton face again...that won't be happening anytime soon.

Cena will be back at the Rumble, and immediately put back into the le picture. Orton/Cena at WM for the belt...I'm calling it now.

I agree Henry needs to team with another big...but not Langston..Show. Henry and Big Show would be phenomenal. Miz and Ziggler might work, if Ziggler wasn't too big to be in a tag team. The big stars don't usually stay in teams long...singles is where it's at when it comes to storylines.

Axel/Barrett would work...but not until Axel dumps Heyman.

Kane will be a monster...but a face monster, when he returns and destroys the Wyatt's. Then he'll go back to the normal guy...it was working, why stop it?

Agree with the Fandango statement. He needs to be a psycho guy...along the lines of Jericho when he smashed HBK's face into the television.

RVD is amazing. If you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you. It's not just his performance...it's his ability to sell. Ziggler has the same talent. He's phenomenal, and always keeps the crowd behind him.

I hope Jericho will be back too, though he doesn't have a timetable. He says right now he's not a WWE wrestler...though he thinks he will be again.

The talent is not at an all time low by any means..they just weren't prepared. This is a problem with the WWE..they don't build up their mid card talent enough to make them main event talent in case of emergencies. Sandow could be phenomenal...instead he's going to lose on Smackdown in a couple of minutes to Santino Marella. I like what they're doing with Cody Rhodes right now...they're going to build him up into something special, I think.

On a side note, I hate what they're doing with Ryback...the bully thing is done...it's taking him to the back of the line. How you take a guy that big and make him look like a pussy is beyond me.

lol what are you ing new here?

[Spursfan092120]

lol what are you ing new here?

I'm sorry?

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Roman Reigns has no mic skill...where the do you get he has mic skill? He's the one who never talks..Ambrose has the talent of that groupPERIOD

CM Punk/Daniel Bryan would be a great fued. They're best friends, and would work great together. I agree 100%

Orton/Lesnar could work...but it won't happen...Lesnar won't be in long enough to build something that makes sense. Plus you'd have to turn Orton face again...that won't be happening anytime soon.

Cena will be back at the Rumble, and immediately put back into the le picture. Orton/Cena at WM for the belt...I'm calling it now.

I agree Henry needs to team with another big...but not Langston..Show. Henry and Big Show would be phenomenal. Miz and Ziggler might work, if Ziggler wasn't too big to be in a tag team. The big stars don't usually stay in teams long...singles is where it's at when it comes to storylines.

Axel/Barrett would work...but not until Axel dumps Heyman.

Kane will be a monster...but a face monster, when he returns and destroys the Wyatt's. Then he'll go back to the normal guy...it was working, why stop it?

Agree with the Fandango statement. He needs to be a psycho guy...along the lines of Jericho when he smashed HBK's face into the television.

RVD is amazing. If you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you. It's not just his performance...it's his ability to sell. Ziggler has the same talent. He's phenomenal, and always keeps the crowd behind him.

I hope Jericho will be back too, though he doesn't have a timetable. He says right now he's not a WWE wrestler...though he thinks he will be again.

The talent is not at an all time low by any means..they just weren't prepared. This is a problem with the WWE..they don't build up their mid card talent enough to make them main event talent in case of emergencies. Sandow could be phenomenal...instead he's going to lose on Smackdown in a couple of minutes to Santino Marella. I like what they're doing with Cody Rhodes right now...they're going to build him up into something special, I think.

On a side note, I hate what they're doing with Ryback...the bully thing is done...it's taking him to the back of the line. How you take a guy that big and make him look like a pussy is beyond me.

I didn't imply Reigns was another Dusty Rhodes or a Jake "The Snake" Roberts with a mic, but he can make it work, yes he does/has talked.

No Orton wouldn't need to make another turn, and Lesnar would do what he's told.

Totally disagree about Henry and Show. Big E and Henry the big/bad/powerful black destroyers. That would work.

You might think RVD is amazing I don't and I 've him seen him every since he broke in the biz. He's just a tumbler. He also spends to much time trying to work the crowd.

Yes the talent level in the WWE is at an all time low, no Cena, no Shamas, no Jericho. We have one bonafide Hall of Famer only...Orton. That's weak! Look at you talking up Sandow, that right there tells us just how weak the roster is right now.

Ryback vs pushing some little dude around back stage, he shoves him into a passing by Roman Reigns....there it is.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/jim-ross-to-retire-26147422

jr retired today

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Seeing Goldust back made me think of all the wrestling father and son combos.

Hmmmmm?

Dusty Rhodes...Dustin & Cody
Fritz Von Erich....Kerry, Kevin, David and Mike
Bob "The Big O" Orton....Bob Jr
Bob Jr...Randy
Johnny Valentine...Greg "The Hammer" Valentine
Bob Armstrong...Brad
Gory Guerrero...Chavo, Hector, Mondo and Eddie.
Chavo Guerrero..Chavo Jr.
Bruno Sammartino...David
Gene Kiniski...Nick
"Joltin' " Joe Blanchard...Tully Blanchard
Blackjack Mullighan...Barry & Kendall Windham
Ivan Putski...Scott
Warren Bockwinkle...Nick
The Great Malenko...Dean
Verne Gagne...Greg
"Tough" Tony Borne....Matt (Doink the Clown)
"Iron" Mike DiBiase....Ted
Ted DiBiase....Ted Jr
Rocky Johnson..The Rock
Larry "The Ax" Hennig...Curt
Curt "Mr.Perfect" Hennig...Curtis Axel
Jerry "The King " Lawler...Brian Christopher
Dory Funk...Dory Jr&Terry
Grizzley Smith...Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Angelo Poffo...Randy "Macho Man" Savage & Leaping Lanny
Stu Hart...Brett "Hitman" Hart & Owen Hart (there were some others)
Mike Sharpe...Mike Jr.



Who did I forget?

I've never figured out just who is who when it comes to The Samoans.

Brothers?

These were really brothers (I think). All those above and...

Barry & Kendall Windham
Enrigue, Ramon & Alberto Torres
Eddie & Jerry Graham
Mad Dog & Butcher Vachon
Joe & Paul LeDuc
Jack & Jerry Brisco
Rick & Scott Steiner
Sputnik & Rocket Monroe
Ronnie & "Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin
Ben & Mike Sharpe
Big Bill & Ed Miller
George & Sandy Scott
Bob & Steve Stanlee
Mike & Doc Gallager
Johnny & Sonny Weaver

Not sure if Johnny, Jimmy and Jerry Valiant were actually brothers.



Gotta tell this...

Fritz Von Erich was the best of the badass German wrestlers in his day, he talked the talk. Well some years later he's now the World Class owner/promotor. I hear him in an interview.....A TEXAS ACCENT...??????????...Ha! An SMU footballer no less.

[anakha]

Eddie Guerrero has a daughter in NXT, if that counts.
Jim Neidhart and Natalya. (See above)
Del Rio is the son of lucha legend Dos Caras, I believe.
The Usos are the kids of Rikishi.

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Eddie Guerrero has a daughter in NXT, if that counts.
Jim Neidhart and Natalya. (See above)
Del Rio is the son of lucha legend Dos Caras, I believe.
The Usos are the kids of Rikishi.

I forgot about Del Rio, didn't know about the others, Thanks man!

I bet the history of Lucha Libra would make a cool read. I wish somebody would get serious with a ..The History of Professional Wrestling, actually get deep into it. I do own...The History of the NWA....very interesting.

[Spursfan092120]

I didn't imply Reigns was another Dusty Rhodes or a Jake "The Snake" Roberts with a mic, but he can make it work, yes he does/has talked.

No Orton wouldn't need to make another turn, and Lesnar would do what he's told.

Totally disagree about Henry and Show. Big E and Henry the big/bad/powerful black destroyers. That would work.

You might think RVD is amazing I don't and I 've him seen him every since he broke in the biz. He's just a tumbler. He also spends to much time trying to work the crowd.

Yes the talent level in the WWE is at an all time low, no Cena, no Shamas, no Jericho. We have one bonafide Hall of Famer only...Orton. That's weak! Look at you talking up Sandow, that right there tells us just how weak the roster is right now.

Ryback vs pushing some little dude around back stage, he shoves him into a passing by Roman Reigns....there it is.

Reigns would have a lot of work to do...he rarely talks...and again, Ambrose is better. I do like the Ryback pushing someone into Reigns..that would be a good face turn for Reigns.

Lesnar's contract is up at WM if I'm not mistaken...not enough time to build a match like that. And you have to have a heel vs. face in a fued unless it's legends...Orton and Lesnar aren't legends yet.

Big Bad Powerful Black Destroyers? Wow...that sounds REALLY racist. Henry/Show would be better, and they make more sense, as they've both been attacked by The Shield recently.

You do know it's called entertainment right? Working the crowd is what makes you great. And RVD is good at it. So I guess Rey Mysterio, Mil Mascaras, and Eddie Guerrero were all tumblers, huh? RVD is a luchador style wrestler without the mask and a little extreme (see the Van Terminator)

Sandow is a talent..they just haven't figured out a good character for him yet. His current character is horrible. Cena and Sheamus will both return at the Rumble...I'd almost put money on it. Show is a HOFer, Punk is a HOFer, Bryan and Ziggler could be great, if you don't bury them, Not sure why Ezekiel Jackson has disappeared. He'd be a good one. So we disagree that there is no talent...I think the talent is there...just not the writing. The Rebuilding of the Corporation and the Punk/Heyman angle is the first decent writing I've seen in forever.

[Spursfan092120]

Eddie Guerrero has a daughter in NXT, if that counts.
Jim Neidhart and Natalya. (See above)
Del Rio is the son of lucha legend Dos Caras, I believe.
The Usos are the kids of Rikishi.

Rock is also family with Rikishi and the Usos.
You're right about Dos Caras.

[Spursfan092120]

Seeing Goldust back made me think of all the wrestling father and son combos.

Hmmmmm?

Dusty Rhodes...Dustin & Cody
Fritz Von Erich....Kerry, Kevin, David and Mike
Bob "The Big O" Orton....Bob Jr
Bob Jr...Randy
Johnny Valentine...Greg "The Hammer" Valentine
Bob Armstrong...Brad
Gory Guerrero...Chavo, Hector, Mondo and Eddie.
Chavo Guerrero..Chavo Jr.
Bruno Sammartino...David
Gene Kiniski...Nick
"Joltin' " Joe Blanchard...Tully Blanchard
Blackjack Mullighan...Barry & Kendall Windham
Ivan Putski...Scott
Warren Bockwinkle...Nick
The Great Malenko...Dean
Verne Gagne...Greg
"Tough" Tony Borne....Matt (Doink the Clown)
"Iron" Mike DiBiase....Ted
Ted DiBiase....Ted Jr
Rocky Johnson..The Rock
Larry "The Ax" Hennig...Curt
Curt "Mr.Perfect" Hennig...Curtis Axel
Jerry "The King " Lawler...Brian Christopher
Dory Funk...Dory Jr&Terry
Grizzley Smith...Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Angelo Poffo...Randy "Macho Man" Savage & Leaping Lanny
Stu Hart...Brett "Hitman" Hart & Owen Hart (there were some others)
Mike Sharpe...Mike Jr.



Who did I forget?

I've never figured out just who is who when it comes to The Samoans.

Brothers?

These were really brothers (I think). All those above and...

Barry & Kendall Windham
Enrigue, Ramon & Alberto Torres
Eddie & Jerry Graham
Mad Dog & Butcher Vachon
Joe & Paul LeDuc
Jack & Jerry Brisco
Rick & Scott Steiner
Sputnik & Rocket Monroe
Ronnie & "Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin
Ben & Mike Sharpe
Big Bill & Ed Miller
George & Sandy Scott
Bob & Steve Stanlee
Mike & Doc Gallager
Johnny & Sonny Weaver

Not sure if Johnny, Jimmy and Jerry Valiant were actually brothers.



Gotta tell this...

Fritz Von Erich was the best of the badass German wrestlers in his day, he talked the talk. Well some years later he's now the World Class owner/promotor. I hear him in an interview.....A TEXAS ACCENT...??????????...Ha! An SMU footballer no less.

Bobo Brazil Sr. and Jr.
3 of Ric Flair's kids wrestle
Boris and Dean Malenko
British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith and Harry Smith
Ricky Steamboat and Ricky Steamboat Jr
Jimmy Snuka and his daughter Tamina.

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Reigns would have a lot of work to do...he rarely talks...and again, Ambrose is better. I do like the Ryback pushing someone into Reigns..that would be a good face turn for Reigns.

Lesnar's contract is up at WM if I'm not mistaken...not enough time to build a match like that. And you have to have a heel vs. face in a fued unless it's legends...Orton and Lesnar aren't legends yet.

Big Bad Powerful Black Destroyers? Wow...that sounds REALLY racist. Henry/Show would be better, and they make more sense, as they've both been attacked by The Shield recently.

You do know it's called entertainment right? Working the crowd is what makes you great. And RVD is good at it. So I guess Rey Mysterio, Mil Mascaras, and Eddie Guerrero were all tumblers, huh? RVD is a luchador style wrestler without the mask and a little extreme (see the Van Terminator)

Sandow is a talent..they just haven't figured out a good character for him yet. His current character is horrible. Cena and Sheamus will both return at the Rumble...I'd almost put money on it. Show is a HOFer, Punk is a HOFer, Bryan and Ziggler could be great, if you don't bury them, Not sure why Ezekiel Jackson has disappeared. He'd be a good one. So we disagree that there is no talent...I think the talent is there...just not the writing. The Rebuilding of the Corporation and the Punk/Heyman angle is the first decent writing I've seen in forever.

Ambrose doesn't have the look while Reigns does.

I wish I had a buck for everytime I've seen a heel vs heel feud that is as old as wrestling it's self. Lesnar can't sign a new contract?

You must have forgotten....Harlem Heat, and cool this silly..that's racist...ok? I deal with reality, no need to play pretend. Henry and Langston a far more interesting team than having Show there.

You do know when a guy is on the top rope ready to pounce but has to stop to....R V D... that it looks corny....right?

No Sandow isn't a talent, he's just another wrestler. There is no doubt the current active stable of wrestlers in the WWE is about as untalented as it's ever been. I was into it when it was the WWWF, back in the Sammartino days. You mentioned Orton not being a legend, well there it is. And he's the biggest star they have right now.

[Spursfan092120]

Ambrose doesn't have the look while Reigns does.

I wish I had a buck for everytime I've seen a heel vs heel feud that is as old as wrestling it's self. Lesnar can't sign a new contract?

You must have forgotten....Harlem Heat, and cool this silly..that's racist...ok? I deal with reality, no need to play pretend. Henry and Langston a far more interesting team than having Show there.

You do know when a guy is on the top rope ready to pounce but has to stop to....R V D... that it looks corny....right?

No Sandow isn't a talent, he's just another wrestler. There is no doubt the current active stable of wrestlers in the WWE is about as untalented as it's ever been. I was into it when it was the WWWF, back in the Sammartino days. You mentioned Orton not being a legend, well there it is. And he's the biggest star they have right now.

Looks don't always matter. Daniel Bryan isn't exactly a beautiful specimen himself.

Yes, Lesnar can sign a new contract, but he isn't exactly sure he's going to do that. And Heel vs. Heel would work if both heels are interesting. Orton is interesting..Lesnar is not. He's a big bully type character who has a voicebox (Heyman). I know I wouldn't be interested in that fued.

No..I haven't forgotten Harlem Heat...I met both of them..great guys. Henry and Langston would have been cool a long time ago in the Nation of Domination. And they might be interesting now, but the World's Largest Athlete and the World's Strongest Man makes for more interesting television in my opinion.

RVD is an American luchador..one of the few..he's talented...I won't argue with you anymore about him.

Sandow is talented. Very talented. The WWWF days weren't more talented than the current days. The sport/show has evolved. Today's superstars would dominate the guys of old, because this is about entertainment...and you HAVE to be entertaining now outside of the ring on the mic AND inside. I look back at old promos with superstars from the 80's and laugh. So horrible. The only guys with mic skills back then were on the top. Now, just to be in the WWE Training Grounds you have to be excellent on the mic. Proof? I give you Shaun Ricker. A talented wrestler WWE just signed who also happens to be great on the mic. He was on The Hero tv show as well...and he's not even on television...he's still trying to get into the big leagues out of the training ground.



Sandow has a LOT of promise and WILL be a champion. I hate his character right now..but I see it in him. It's like Antonio Cesaro. A LOT of talent, but the writers have no idea what to do with them. Same thing with DiBiase and why he left WWE. Damn shame that he took off, but he had no choice. He's BEEN cleared for months now, but the writers couldn't come up with anything decent to bring him back to television, so he quit. A future champion with a lot of promise...gone, because nobody could figure out a ing storyline? Garbage.

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Looks don't always matter. Daniel Bryan isn't exactly a beautiful specimen himself.

Yes, Lesnar can sign a new contract, but he isn't exactly sure he's going to do that. And Heel vs. Heel would work if both heels are interesting. Orton is interesting..Lesnar is not. He's a big bully type character who has a voicebox (Heyman). I know I wouldn't be interested in that fued.

No..I haven't forgotten Harlem Heat...I met both of them..great guys. Henry and Langston would have been cool a long time ago in the Nation of Domination. And they might be interesting now, but the World's Largest Athlete and the World's Strongest Man makes for more interesting television in my opinion.

RVD is an American luchador..one of the few..he's talented...I won't argue with you anymore about him.

Sandow is talented. Very talented. The WWWF days weren't more talented than the current days. The sport/show has evolved. Today's superstars would dominate the guys of old, because this is about entertainment...and you HAVE to be entertaining now outside of the ring on the mic AND inside. I look back at old promos with superstars from the 80's and laugh. So horrible. The only guys with mic skills back then were on the top. Now, just to be in the WWE Training Grounds you have to be excellent on the mic. Proof? I give you Shaun Ricker. A talented wrestler WWE just signed who also happens to be great on the mic. He was on The Hero tv show as well...and he's not even on television...he's still trying to get into the big leagues out of the training ground.



Sandow has a LOT of promise and WILL be a champion. I hate his character right now..but I see it in him. It's like Antonio Cesaro. A LOT of talent, but the writers have no idea what to do with them. Same thing with DiBiase and why he left WWE. Damn shame that he took off, but he had no choice. He's BEEN cleared for months now, but the writers couldn't come up with anything decent to bring him back to television, so he quit. A future champion with a lot of promise...gone, because nobody could figure out a ing storyline? Garbage.

You're totally missing the point on Reigns. Why was ....

Goldberg
Batista
Lesnar
Ryback

....there? Yep...looks!!!!!!!!!!!!! The big monster, Reigns is a big dude.

I think Lesnar is very interesting/entertaining, far more than Sandow who nobody really cares about.

Totally wrong about Henry & Langston.

You must have never seen....

Freddie Blassie
Nick Bockwinkle
Superstar Billy Graham
The Destroyer
Lou Thesz

....do a promo.


I do agree about the writing/storylines totally sucking and it is a shame about DiBiase. I really do believe me and you could do a better job...dead serious!

Daneil Bryan is getting the big push because the fans can relate to him. Ordinally looking guy getting screwed over by the establishment, that sells because most identify with it. That's what that is all about.

[Spursfan092120]

You're totally missing the point on Reigns. Why was ....

Goldberg
Batista
Lesnar
Ryback

....there? Yep...looks!!!!!!!!!!!!! The big monster, Reigns is a big dude.

I think Lesnar is very interesting/entertaining, far more than Sandow who nobody really cares about.

Totally wrong about Henry & Langston.

You must have never seen....

Freddie Blassie
Nick Bockwinkle
Superstar Billy Graham
The Destroyer
Lou Thesz

....do a promo.


I do agree about the writing/storylines totally sucking and it is a shame about DiBiase. I really do believe me and you could do a better job...dead serious!

Goldberg was a phenomenon...Batista had mic skills. Lesnar has a mouthpiece, and Ryback hasn't done yet. Just sayin. I'm not knocking Reigns..he has the look...he just needs mic work. Settle down there, turbo.

Nobody cares about Sandow right now because he hasn't done anything. He has mic skills and in-ring talent...if he gets a push, people will care.

I'm not saying Henry and Langston wouldn't work..I'm just saying Henry and Show would be more interesting. Does everything have to be a ing argument with you?

You proved my point. Only the guys on top were good at promos back then. Blassie, Bockwinkle, Superstar, Lou, even The Destroyer were good. They were pretty good on the mic too. But like I said...it's evolved. They weren't The Rock...Stone Cold...Undertaker. These guys could cut a promo that would make their hair stand up on the back of their necks.

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Goldberg was a phenomenon...Batista had mic skills. Lesnar has a mouthpiece, and Ryback hasn't done yet. Just sayin. I'm not knocking Reigns..he has the look...he just needs mic work. Settle down there, turbo.

Nobody cares about Sandow right now because he hasn't done anything. He has mic skills and in-ring talent...if he gets a push, people will care.

I'm not saying Henry and Langston wouldn't work..I'm just saying Henry and Show would be more interesting. Does everything have to be a ing argument with you?

You proved my point. Only the guys on top were good at promos back then. Blassie, Bockwinkle, Superstar, Lou, even The Destroyer were good. They were pretty good on the mic too. But like I said...it's evolved. They weren't The Rock...Stone Cold...Undertaker. These guys could cut a promo that would make their hair stand up on the back of their necks.

My point was if not for the look none of those big guys are in pro wrestling.

Argument...??? It's called...disagreement.

Only the guys at the top did promos back then so....????

Here you are talking up a middle of the packer like Sandow, that right there should send a message about the talent currently in the WWE.

Hmmmmm....now The Great Sandow could have been something special

[Spursfan092120]

My point was if not for the look none of those big guys are in pro wrestling.

Argument...??? It's called...disagreement.

Only the guys at the top did promos back then so....????

Here you are talking up a middle of the packer like Sandow, that right there should send a message about the talent currently in the WWE.

Hmmmmm....now The Great Sandow could have been something special

Sandow is only a middle of the packer because that's where they have him. His talent level when combined is above some of the main event guys right now. Just need the right story and character. The guys back in the day could not hang with the current and At ude era stars on the mic..it's evolved too much...proof is right here...3 of the best promos of all time...and they're all At ude era and after.



This is my opinion, the best wrestling promo of all time




Another top of all time

[TDMVPDPOY]

is it me or billy ray dudly from tna is a better entertainer these days then he was at wwe in the past? exposure of his character?

[Trainwreck2100]

Goldberg was a phenomenon...Batista had mic skills. Lesnar has a mouthpiece, and Ryback hasn't done yet. Just sayin. I'm not knocking Reigns..he has the look...he just needs mic work. Settle down there, turbo.

Nobody cares about Sandow right now because he hasn't done anything. He has mic skills and in-ring talent...if he gets a push, people will care.

I'm not saying Henry and Langston wouldn't work..I'm just saying Henry and Show would be more interesting. Does everything have to be a ing argument with you?

You proved my point. Only the guys on top were good at promos back then. Blassie, Bockwinkle, Superstar, Lou, even The Destroyer were good. They were pretty good on the mic too. But like I said...it's evolved. They weren't The Rock...Stone Cold...Undertaker. These guys could cut a promo that would make their hair stand up on the back of their necks.

lol what are you ing new here?

[Avante]

Sandow is only a middle of the packer because that's where they have him. His talent level when combined is above some of the main event guys right now. Just need the right story and character. The guys back in the day could not hang with the current and At ude era stars on the mic..it's evolved too much...proof is right here...3 of the best promos of all time...and they're all At ude era and after.



This is my opinion, the best wrestling promo of all time




Another top of all time

That was great!!!!!!!!!!

The old timers were more into selling the next card.

[TDMVPDPOY]

was watchin the 92 royal rumble on youtube, i think the whole list of 30 wrestlers for that one match all became legends, star studded lineup

[TheCultOfPersonality]

is it me or billy ray dudly from tna is a better entertainer these days then he was at wwe in the past? exposure of his character?

Bully Ray is definitely better in TNA than he was in the WWE, but he was mostly a tag team guy that got limited mic work in the WWE and had no character development. The only time that Bully Ray was even in singles compe ion in the WWE was when they started the brand extention and he wasn't given a character at all. Bully in TNA has shown that he's decent on the mic, is able to draw heat, and is the lone bright spot (outside of Tessmacher) of that jobber group known as Ace & Eights.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/jim-ross-to-retire-26147422

jr retired today

Lawler should of retired with him tbh.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I'm glad that the WWE during Breast Cancer Awareness Month is involving everyone on the roster this year instead of the previous year where they only involved Cena and were using it hoping to get Cena cheered.

Ziggler had to change his usual pink attire so Cena was the only wrestler wearing pink during that month. Stupid.