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Neutering content because you don't like the message, whether dressed up as a cultural critique or a business plan, does not lessen the censoring effect.
Bull . If a maker changes its product to suit the market or its business plan, that isn't censorship, it's rational self-interest.Sure it does. That content would no longer be in the games.
Neutering content because you don't like the message, whether dressed up as a cultural critique or a business plan, does not lessen the censoring effect.
the developers, not the critics, neutered the content under pressure of social disapprobation.
you'd silence the social disapprobation (free expression) because you don't like the result.
But for the social criticism, the content would not have been altered. Both are to blame.
And you'd silence/censor the misogynistic/violent content of video games by dressing it up as a business decision and blaming the developers only.
Video games have a long history of being violent, crude, and offensive. Taking issue with that is like taking issue with Nine Inch Nails for promoting self-destructive tendencies. I'd have more sympathy for the critics claims if they had chosen a better forum to air them.
Actually, no. I think they should be free to say whatever the they want. I don't think their criticism has any merit to it, and I don't think developers should act on their concerns. But they're free to complain all they want.
so are you, but the that idea that social disapproval is equivalent to official viewpoint discriminatrion is simply wrong. no one has compelled the developers to do anything.
And they're also free to develop their own content. That's a problematic fact for you WH -- they can make content their own content to cater to their multicural vision. But that's not where this stops because they also want to eliminate content they find objectionable.
The crying over the GTA games from feminists and minorities is hilarious. Like when that Haitian group sued Rockstar, Microsoft, Sony, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc to get the game banned because there was a mission where you're working for a Cuban gang where they say to "kill all the Haitians" referring to the rival Haitian gang. I think it's funny all the butthurt from the Haitians for Vice City and the feminists for San Andreas and yet there was no complaint about GTA V, which was way worse considering there is a mission on the game where you go on a mass murder spree at any army base when one soldier makes fun of your character for being Canadian.
So am I what? And we're not talking about governmental infringements on first amendment protections, so I don't know what viewpoint discrimination has to do with anything. I think the analogy would be to content discrimination (violent/misogynistic content is being removed -- its not an exclusion of one view of an issue which would be viewpoint discrimination) anyway.
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I find that tedious -- but no more than tedious. Even if in your wildest dystopian fantasies feminists somehow succeeded in getting all the makers to kowtow to change all their games, gamers would still be free -- just like the people who criticize them -- to develop their own content, correct?
But it says "neutralize" instead of "kill"
LOL @ gamers being able to make their own multimillion dollar games that take 5-7 years to develop.
You find what tedious?
You just answered your own hypothetical - they wouldn't be free in the matriarchal dystopia because the content the feminists find objectionable would be silenced, hook, line and sinker. They want that content gone -- what about this are you not getting?
that there is no legal/political force involved makes it *not censorship*
just as ridiculous as vy65's suggestion that feminists "make their own games." that's where i got the idea.
crofl
Except that they (the feminists) already are. This whole issue flared up over coverage of a feminist developers' game.
Trevor: This is why we don't win wars anymore
Never was a big GTA fan, but methinks I should look into this.
the notion that gamers are or will soon be bereft of mysogynistic gratification in video games is frankly laughable. the critics won't get their way 100%, makers that don't kowtow will get "cred" from gamers and there will be new business opportunities for game developers eager to continue making money off them.
^ More rank, and irrelevant, speculation
Can't go wrong with a game where you get to go Virginia Tech against a bunch of hipsters tbh
crofl "is this counter cultural enough for ya"
much like the putative extirpation of sexism in video games: mostly rumored.
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