Kobe was 21, Bird was 24, Duncan was 22, Magic was 22... Should I continue?
Btw, Lebron singlehandedly took Cleveland to the NBA Finals at age 22. Cleveland's second best player was Mo Williams.
Kobe was 21, Bird was 24, Duncan was 22, Magic was 22... Should I continue?
Btw, Lebron singlehandedly took Cleveland to the NBA Finals at age 22. Cleveland's second best player was Mo Williams.
Kawhi was 22...
Lol just take the L you little
As the 4th option.
Bold this
Westbrook outplayed Kawhi? When?
-Westbrook: 25/6/10/2 ( 23.5 FGA 27 TOs / FG: 37% / TS: 47%)
-Kawhi: 23/7/3/2 (18.5 FGA 12 TOs / FG: 48% / TS: 55%)
Kawhi scored 23 ppg on better shooting than Westbrook in less minutes and shots. Also, he was defending the best opposite player, while Westbrook guarding...Parker.
I know, with your low IQ, it's hard for you to understand a simple concept...but step up in playoffs doesn't matter in the regular season MVP race.
And he won? No. Did he win at his 26? No. LeBron needed Wade and Bosh to win a ship...
The '91 Bulls roster s on the '16 Spurs roster and it's not even close. , Jordan + Pippen is better than the Spurs entire back court put together. It was a team full of clutch performers and big shot hitters.
Don't even ing get me started on The Dream having "no sidekick". That's pure ignorance. He had Clyde Drexler, Sam Cassel, Mario Ellie, Robert Horry, Vernon Maxwell and Kenny Smith. That was a historically stacked roster.
Talk about typing stupid . Do your ing homework next time.
Conveniently leaving off assists isn't going to win you bonus points with me. He averaged 10.5 assists which accounts for a MINIMUM 21 points more per game. It's not always about point scoring but who makes the players around him better. Your only answer the last couple of weeks has been the Spurs need to find a point guard that knows his role or in YGWHI's terms, a competent PG that makes Kawhi look good.
I never said that the regular season MVP race had anything to do with postseason stats but, regular season accolades don't mean when your exiting the playoffs in the 1st or 2nd round. My point was Leonard didn't exactly play the MVP runner up in the postseason either if your going to dog Curry for having a few average games.
The 2016 Spurs roster dwarfs the 2007 Cavs roster in almost every conceivable way. Are you just trolling?
No ! Plz, tell me he's the point guard of his team...
Well, you are the one who is saying that a player who scored almost the same ppg, in more minutes, on a lot more shots, shooting way worse than the other player, outplayed him.Conveniently you..
And still he needed two other superstars to win a ship...
Are you just trolling?just good on defense
Lebron isn't a pg.
I gave Curry's stat line, not Westbrook's. I just said Westbrook had a better series because he made the players around him better. You're the one who compared the two, remember?
Ah, so what you're actually saying is Leonard needs another star because he's one short. Lebron carried a lottery team to the NBA finals. Leonard carried a 67 win team with 5x the talent of that 2007 Cavs team to a first and second round exit. Why can't you see a difference between the two?
Then why did you list Magic?
Are you drunk, right? You said that Westbrook outplayed Kawhi.
Must be nice to play in the East. Wake me up when an earthquake shifts OKC a time zone to the east.
I for one think Lebron is far and away the best player on the planet. He also gets a free pass to the finals.
17.4ppg/*11.3reb/*9.3assists/*2.9steals/52fg%
* Led team in offensive and defensive rebounds, assist and steals. Led team in ORtg (126) and DRtg (102) led team in Win shares(2.7) nearly doubling 2nd place Kareem (1.5)
Why you ask?
He did.
This is true but, in 2007, Detroit was a pretty hefty favorite vs Cleveland and Lebron literally willed his team to a series victory. He had no help that postseason.
So..."you are the one who is saying that a player who scored almost the same ppg, in more minutes, on a lot more shots, shooting way worse than the other player, outplayed him"
As the 4th option. Either that's relevant or it's not. Also not sure where you found those stats.
Hmmmm, doesn't the "inflated defense" in the beginning of the season have a lot to do with Duncan's overall health and impact? Once that began to slip after December the defense was very good but not as great as in November and December.
Parker defensive play was also much better in the beginning of the season, but began to fall apart once overall fatigue set in.
Diaw and West were always going to be a poor defensive pairing (no defensive rebounding or rim protection) while Patty tries hard but doesn't have the physical attributes to succeed.
With all that said, the team was still the best defensive team in the league and that carried them throughout. It was essentially a "two man" team offensively, but defensively they played well as a unit.
No need to bash the team to prop up Kawhi and to a lesser extent LaMarcus. The team won 67 games because they were flat out great on defense and got off to good/great leads against weaker compe ion. Once that stopped happening in the playoffs, well you saw the final result.
Last edited by J_Paco; 05-27-2016 at 01:34 AM.
Westbrook made plays down the stretch to win games. Why is this so hard to understand? He shoots more because he's a shoot first pg with a very limited supporting cast. Sometimes it can be a detriment but not this year. He was transcendent when it counted, Leonard wasn't. Leonard put up his numbers like he usually does and once again he watches the playoffs from the comfort of his own living room. I suppose you'll blame Parker and Pop for phasing Kawhi out in the 4th quarter of games but, Leonard has to show some initiative too. He's way too passive and he doesn't make the players around him better on the offensive end.
The inflated defensive record had more to with schedule. But Duncan playing fresh was a factor for sure. However from Feb, the team has relied mostly on Leonard-Aldridge-Parker to carry the load offensively and the defense was hard to crack because teams dont gameplan in regular season games.
I think the team overall has done a great job defensively. They were great even in the playoffs but their downfall was their predictable offense and lack of rebounding. Pop not playing tim extended minutes really bothered me a lot. He was the one other guy beside Leonard who had a love for boxing out. Everyone had the fundamental of a 6th grade in terms of boxing out.
Bonner is an elite box out guy. He probably would have done a better job than Bobo and West as painful as that sounds.
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