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    I'm sure we can find ways to do all the above.
    Already being done
    You don't think $200,000,000,000 would do it any better?

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    You don't think $200,000,000,000 would do it any better?
    I think an iPhone camera can record an instructional video on what foods are healthy to eat.

    If we spend 200 billion on a mostly one time gun buy back and it works, I'm all for it.

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    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/0...e-focus-school

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    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/0...e-focus-school
    Then he immediately endorsed the bill with gun control measures in it.

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    again, narrative is shifting from "we can't fix the issue" to "we wont fix the issue"

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    again, narrative is shifting from "we can't fix the issue" to "we wont fix the issue"
    Looks hard, let's not try. Our forefathers would be proud of our inaction.

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    States will have to fix the issues themselves. Texas and Ohio are doing a pretty good job.

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    States will have to fix the issues themselves. Texas and Ohio are doing a pretty good job.
    What did Texas do to fix the issue after the Sutherland Springs massacre?

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    What did Texas do to fix the issue after the Sutherland Springs massacre?
    Irrelevant. It's about what they are doing now.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...s-trump-362397

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    No, four months ago is completely relevant.

    What did they do then?

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    No, four months ago is completely relevant.

    What did they do then?
    Irrelevant. It's about what they are doing right now.

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    Irrelevant. It's about what they are doing right now.
    No, four months ago is completely relevant.

    What did they do then?

    26 people died.

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    I Go to a School Where an Attack Was Foiled. Here’s Why I’m Against Limiting Gun Rights.


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    Nicole Martin is a freshman at Etowah High School in Woodstock, Georgia, northwest of Atlanta.

    Police cars surrounded my high school as I walked fast across the street to the science building. Eyes were glancing in many directions. The slight panic—bordering on hysteria—was obvious.

    Hundreds of students stayed home, but I did not. Why? Because the threat was safely locked away in jail.

    Four months before the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, my own school in Cherokee County, Georgia, was under serious threat in October from two 17-year-old students.

    Together, the two juniors at Etowah High School planned a Columbine-style attack using explosives, law enforcement authorities said.

    But campus police and the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office learned about the pair’s plans ahead of time through a tip, and reacted immediately to the first report. The two students are charged as adults with attempted murder and other offenses.

    If that threat had not been stopped, many people at my school would be dead. It could have been me, my brother, my closest friends, or all of us.

    But it was stopped. We are alive.

    Having this perspective, my heart was shattered into pieces when I heard the news Feb. 14 about Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida. I have been praying for all of the students, teachers, and families who are going through right now.

    “Take away gun rights. Something needs to be done,” my friends keep telling me.

    Yes, something absolutely does need to be done, but not that way.

    Reports and tips need to be taken seriously. Death is an unchangeable thing, and anyone who jokes about it is sick. A threat is not a joke; it is illegal, and it demands an immediate response.

    Next, teachers should be trained and armed with guns, if they choose to be. I am constantly hearing friends say that if teachers were armed, they would be too scared to shoot back. That is an offensive statement, and it needs to stop.

    A coach at Douglas High died because he ran into the shooting and jumped in front of a bullet. How could anyone say that man would have been afraid to shoot back? He chose to die so his students didn’t have to, yet people say teachers would have been hiding if they had guns.

    Taking away gun rights isn’t going to help the cause. Immediately after our Founding Fathers listed our God-given rights, they decided that every American’s right “to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    Everyone needs a way to defend himself or herself. I realize that many people simply want to add restrictions to buying a gun for everyone, which I thought seemed reasonable at first until I researched it.

    Some of the most infamous shooters were approved to buy a gun because their previous felonies had not been reported to gun shop owners. Those shooters should not have been approved, but they were.

    The system of background checks needs to be tightened to include felons and those who courts say are mentally ill.

    Taking away Second Amendment rights from everyone is not the solution.

    http://dailysignal.com/2018/03/06/i-...ng-gun-rights/

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    Wouldn't have done a damn thing to prevent Sutherland Springs.

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    Wouldn't have done a damn thing to prevent Sutherland Springs.
    This is about Parkland and what they are doing now. Not Sutherland Springs.

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    Then why reference to the link as a reposte to Sutherland Springs?

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    Then why reference to the link as a reposte to Sutherland Springs?
    I figured the term irrelevant made that quite clear.

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    Not really. Gunplay is not limited to schoos.

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    Not really. Gunplay is not limited to schoos.
    There's already State law in Texas that allows for armed volunteer security in churches.

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    There's already State law in Texas that allows for armed volunteer security in churches.
    Really effective in Sutherland Springs.

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    Already being done
    Yesterday, the American College of Physicians loosened Type 2 Diabetes A1C goal to be between 7 and 8 instead of under 7 as the American Diabetes Association suggests. That alone will kill more people than any guns. Normal A1C is considered below 5.7 - IMO, it should be under 5. The public being educated about eating the right foods is not happening - that food pyramid is a joke - it should be flipped with carbs on the top and fats on the bottom.

    I am glad that people are discussing solutions in this thread, but I'd like to know how the government would know who has what gun(s). And if the govt started paying $10k for each gun, I'd start buying as many as possible (privately) and hoarding them.

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    Really effective in Sutherland Springs.
    Good thing there was a local NRA firearms instructor nearby with an AR-15, otherwise more people would have died. The law was only 3 months old when the incident at Sutherland Springs happened.

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    Good thing there was a local NRA firearms instructor nearby with an AR-15, otherwise more people would have died. The law was only 3 months old when the incident at Sutherland Springs happened.
    he killed 26 innocent people, but because he was himself killed, all good

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    Yesterday, the American College of Physicians loosened Type 2 Diabetes A1C goal to be between 7 and 8 instead of under 7 as the American Diabetes Association suggest. That alone will kill more people than any guns. Normal A1C is considered below 5.7 - IMO, it should be under 5. The public being educated about eating the right foods is not happening - that food pyramid is a joke - it should be flipped with carbs on the top and fats on the bottom.

    I am glad that people are discussing solutions in this thread, but I'd like to know how the government would know who has what gun(s). And if the govt started paying $10k for each gun, I'd start buying as many as possible (privately) and hoarding them.
    Who said the government had to know who has what guns? I think it would be prudent to see an ID when a firearm is turned in for 10 grand.. and smart money would say that the date would include a cutoff date which precludes buying and hoarding weapons for later resale.

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