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If he doesnt want to be here, why prolong the agony????
The smart play is to wait.
But I just don't think Pop will have the stomach to wait this out until February. The constant questions, the media scrutiny, the back and forth with his group, etc.
He's probably so over this , with his wife, Timmy gone, Manu gone, TP being terrible...he's going to want to rip the band-aid off as soon as possible. Might help him decide if he wants to retire now or hand the reins over to Messina.
If he doesnt want to be here, why prolong the agony????
Who are we strengthening in this prospective deals? PHX? SAC? They'd barely pull themselves out of the gutter even with Kawhi. So what's the problem?
Kawhi is unprofessional, period...............
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I was referring to LA
Same applies, not like they can offer anything to us to move the ol'interest meter anyway so what's the issue?
Not like we're dumping him in OKC or something.
Agree, I hear the no west thing, but, in reality if the big deal needs doing?? PHX will stay phx and Fakers well it’s showtime everyday over there just without the Lakers. And Phil has long left the building..............
He is a traitor.
Ya Jalens take got me interested. He also stated it appears PG will resign with Okc when it was supposed to be a one year rental. His point, players dont like moving around & its always about money.With regards to him going to Flakers....I watched a segment and Jalen Rose actually made a couple of good observations.
1. Spurs can take their time and wait until trade deadline by that time the Flakers would have to make a move and would probably sign Lebron and George which means even if Kawhi plays out the year he can not sign with the Flakers as they would have no money to sign him.
2. He made a point to say the Spurs organization is not stupid and will take their time and the only deal he would do would be with Boston which would include Tatum.
There is a lot of chatter for every team to get on the Kawhi bandwagoon like someone says it only takes one good offer and we good to go....
3. If we trade him and he leaves that team he is loosing like additional 30 million to sign with what ever team he wants to.....b
He also corrected his co worker who said that there have been no one actually talking to the Spurs about trades... He just smiled and said it takes two people to have a conversation and the Spurs are not the Cavs who gave away there PG for nothing. He did mentione they didn't trade him to the team he demanded he went to Boston.........
So basically he says Spurs have more control then what people think.
That Max guy on the other hand was laughable. He pretty much said Kawhi rejected the supermax, so in turn took out all the monetary considerations & basically said he would be a laker even as an FA.
No one will give a if Leonard starts winning just like everyone forgot how much of a cancer Rodman was throwing WCF games to get his exit out of town.
Which is why I wouldn't feel bad if whatever happens ends up torpedoing his career. Him quitting on the team for re ed "leverage" should never be forgotten and seen as the turning point in his career. Where the FMVP used to be seen as the pivot to THE guy on the spurs, this should hopefully be his fade into mediocrity.
Spite. It's in the bible, don't ya know? And it's sweet justice, richly deserved in that asshat's case.
You think Kawhi is just going to sit out the season if suspended. I don't. He cares about endorsement money, which he won't be making when he's not on the floor. He is a basketball nut, it'll drive him crazy missing another year. I think it's the only way to get him to accept a trade to more teams. I think it's pretty much the only move the Spurs have to try to get any kind of leverage in this situation. And if it fails oh well, the Spurs miss out on getting a couple of crap players and cost Leonard money as well as a year of his prime if he doesn't value either. I cannot advocate just giving him away only so you can say you got something and I do not ever want to see him in a Spurs uniform again since it's not the Spurs responsibility to get him ready to hit the ground running with his next team.
He won't fade into mediocrity. He's a top 3 player who held out for a season over a minor injury. He didn't blow out his knee or tear his achilles.
The spite is just a bonus. If the Lakers had Tatum and were offering him and a halfway decent pick I'd trade Leonard there on draft night. But I don't think you give Kawhi away under any cir stance.
From Good Will Hunting:
Will: “He used to just put a belt, a stick, and a wrench on the kitchen table and say, ‘Choose.’”
Sean: “Well, I gotta go with the belt there.”
Will: “I used to go with the wrench.”
Sean: “Why?”
Will: “’Cause him. That’s why.”
Maybe some of you are finally feeling me? I've been saying for months now he should be shipped off to Milwaukee for whatever picks and players ypu can extract. No way he re-signs. So he'll lose another $49 million. That is sweet, rich, wonderful karma if you, like me believe his uncle's greedy motivations precipitated this whole mess to begin with.
Send him somewhere hideous. Get the best you can. Profit.
Yeah, but I don't think Pop will be reactionary, I think he'll listen to offers and decide if something looks good or not. I also think the $19 million we gave him last season will play into his decision. If Pop says 'no' then Kawhi has the ball in his court and it will be in SA.
I get what your saying, but nothing will be more agonizing than a lopsided horrible trade. It's just the idea of there being little out there to trade him for and they won't feel compelled to do him some big favor after the $19 million dollar loss of last season. It's actually a lot more than that if you look at the overall damage. Kawhi will lose two years, in a relatively brief career, if he doesn't lace up his shoes and play like his life depended on it.
Truth bomb
I also agree. May he fade away and fall from the pedestal of the exceptional.
He doesn't have control over what teams offer and they'll be less inclined to offer more if he's sitting out. AFAIK there isn't a list of teams of that he'll extend with just a preference of destinations. If he plays and shows he's healthy then that increases his value.
I'm not sure if it was you that I had this discussion with but sometimes taking the less than ideal package isn't the worst thing. It worked out great for the Pacers and pretty good for the Bulls. Just need to get an appealing package and disregard whether it is perceived as good enough value.
Heres hoping there is a Spurs personnel development move soon....
Esp about the influx of new personnel.
IM SICK AND TIRED OF THE KAWHI DRAMA.
We Spurs fans deserve better.
that ing piece of . Let him rot for a year. He talks about wanting to be great, wanting go down as a legend. Take that away from him.
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