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    Of course it's clear to me. I'm not going down any rabbit holes unless you have a competing conspiracy theory. Do you have a competing conspiracy theory?

    Yes or no.
    Oh you're a selective rabbit holer now. Okay.

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    Oh you're a selective rabbit holer now. Okay.
    Selective corn holer.

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    Oh you're a selective rabbit holer now. Okay.
    Just one question: Do you have a competing conspiracy theory?

    Yes or no.

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    Yeah, Mueller is totes intimidated by Horowitz.

    lol Stealth Jeff

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    Obama's AG Eric Holder Has Meltdown After House Declares No Trump-Russia Collusion





    On Monday night, House Intelligence Committee Republicans announced they have found no evidence that President Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 election.

    “We found no evidence of collusion. We found perhaps some bad judgment, inappropriate meetings,” Rep. Michael Conaway (R-Texas) said.

    Trump quickly responded in all caps, saying, “THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION.”

    Not everyone was happy about the announcement, however.
    Former Attorney General Eric Holder lashed out at House Intelligence Committee Republicans, claiming that it was a “coverup” and that it is a “lasting stain on the reputation of what used to be a bipartisan Committee when it was run by Republican Rogers and Democrat Ruppersberger.” He concluded, “Politics beat a desire for the truth.”




    Holder was referring to Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) and former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who were the leaders of the House Intelligence Committee during Obama's time in office and were known for their bipartisanship.

    https://ijr.com/2018/03/1075155-eric...sia-collusion/

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    Not much of a meltdown tbh. "All Caps" Dennison melted down more than Holder and it was good news for him.

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    Dobbs wants blood


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    Dobbs wants blood

    Lol corruption

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    STUNNING: Jeff Sessions Cited the WRONG LAW when He Recused Himself from Russian Witch Hunt – Took Advice From Obama Lawyers


    On March 2017 Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced he will recuse himself from investigations related to the 2016 presidential campaign including the alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election.

    Sessions made the announcement the day after he was sworn in as Attorney General after advice from Obama lawyers in the Department of Justice.

    On Wednesday night FOX News contributor and legal expert Gregg Jarrett told Sean Hannity that Sessions used the WRONG LAW when announcing his recusal. He took advice from OBAMA OFFICIALS and they misled him.

    Gregg Jarrett: He betrayed the president. He knew when he was sworn in that he was going to recuse himself and the very next day he put the recusal in motion. He never told the president about that. And by the way he cited the regulation in his recusal… He cited the wrong law. It didn’t apply.

    Sara Carter: I think he was being advised badly at the time.

    Gregg Jarrett: Yeah, by Obama’s holdovers. Who in the world would believe them?

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018...obama-lawyers/

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    House Republicans said Russia didn’t try to help Trump win the election. Now they’re backtracking.

    Republicans may be bowing to public pressure.

    Two days ago, the Republican leadership of the

    House Intelligence Committee made a startling claim:

    The US intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia tried to help President Trump win the White House was flatly wrong.

    Now, leading GOP members of the panel — including its chair —

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    already walking away from the claim and

    grudgingly admitting the Kremlin worked to undermine Hillary Clinton and boost Trump.


    https://www.vox.com/2018/3/14/171210...ssia-collusion

    Repugs got All The Best People

    Repugs know their sheeple base is stupid, ignorant, willingly duped offs.

    The non-base isn't fooled.

    And antsy, confident Trash goes from elation from being exonerated from collusion,

    down to anger, stress, depression again.




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    The State Department has officially approved a possible $47 million sale of Javelin an ank missiles and related equipment to Ukraine, the Pentagon announced Thursday.

    The move marks a significant escalation of lethal aid to Ukraine in its ongoing struggles against Russia.

    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/37...les-to-ukraine
    RandomGuy how’s this fit with your theory?
    This would be enough to debunk it, IMO.

    The theory would predict that the State Department would be overruled, as soon as (if) Hushmoney McPussygrabber finds out about it.

    If Trump has been compromised, you can bet that Russia will tell him about it, and ask for it to be canceled. Russia may not care about a few sniper rifles, but will care about this, because that will lead directly to Russian military casualties.

    Thanks for the info. This is how intelligent people decide what is true using falsifiable theories. We change our minds when presented with new information. I set out the theory, and what would disprove it ahead of time. I don't attach my ego to it, and will be happy to see it go, because it means that Cadet Bone Spurs might stand up to our actual enemies.

    Trump fires [Secretary of State]Tillerson


    Well, TSA, looks like my theory that Donald Trump has been compromised by the Russians is intact. This theory predicts that he will move to fire or overrule any underling that undertakes material actions inimical to Russian interests.

    The criticism and sale of anti-tank weapons that will be used on Russian troops illegally occupying Ukrainian territory would have been a "material action inimical to Russian interests".

    How do you explain that every action and statement Trump has made both before and since taking office is consistent with him being compromised?

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    Just one question: Do you have a competing conspiracy theory?

    Yes or no.
    I have a conspiracy theory. Seriously, you and I have been in the trenches on various stupid ing conspiracy theories for over a decade.

    Does mine appear to be holding water? What are the weak points? Strong points?

    It bothers me a little, but as time goes on, the cir stantial evidence piles up. For me, even if it isn't true, the concerning thing is that the presidents actions are consistent with it being true, which almost makes it irrelevant, because the harm is almost the same either way. Right?

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    1) he said he didnt meet with Sechin and he didn't. Your "proof" even says so. Thats some sorry ass reading comprehension.

    2) "misinformation broadly aimed at a variety of voters". LOL no sherlock.

    Lmao, thats all you got? No golden showers on Obamas bed?
    I generally agree Russia's efforts had little overall effect, but it wasn't for a lack of trying. The question is, whether we should put up with active efforts of an intelligence agency of a foreign government to attack the very idea of democracy itself. Western liberal democracy is under threat from authoritarian regimes. That is important.

    There is also the matter that the sitting president appears to be actively compromised by that same government.

    But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

    The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

    Fact 1:
    Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

    Fact 2:
    Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened, and has gone so far as to take the extraordinary effort to delegitimize his own intelligence services when they something did happen. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

    Fact 3:
    Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

    Fact 4:
    Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

    Fact 5:
    Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

    Fact 6:
    Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

    Fact 7:
    Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was uncons utional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


    Fact 8:
    when Russia retaliated against sanctions by forcing the US embassy to cut staff, Trump thanked Putin for the action, making him look weak, something he has said one should never do, and is inconsistent with his past behavior in any other regard.

    Fact 9:
    Shortly after State Department appoves some material arms sales to Ukraine and Tillerson directly calls out Russia for using nerve gas in Britain, he is fired.

    Theory:
    Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.


    This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

    Prediction:
    Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


    The way to falsify the theory:
    1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
    2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

    Bull conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

    Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.


    Feel free to use your open mind to explain this away.

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    US sanctions on Russia coming soon: Treasury secretary (in March 2018, months after bill was passed)
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-sancti...165001518.html


    Leading Lawmakers Wonder Why Trump Is Dragging Feet on Russia Sanctions (in October of last year)
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/11/...sia-sanctions/


    This is predicted. Slow and as ineffective as possible in both design and implementation.

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    Again. You know Clapper called Trump a Kremlin asset right?

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    Trump forced to call them out

    I remember when some dumbasses around here said Russia wasn't doing .

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    Trash and his mafiya are compromised by Pootin, absolutely no doubt

    Trash/mafiya's collusion was at least passive (told by/knew Russians were promoting Trash, attacking Hillary, but didnt tell FBI/CIA) but I'm betting active collusion, like Trash's digital program director, aka Prince Jared, gave demographic data to Mercer's Cambridge Analytics who gave it to Pootin' s hacker army, and maybe others.

    It didnt take much of hacker influence, with micro-targeting, to affect WI, MI, PA, all won by tiny fractions of a percent but threw the EC toTrash and America in the Trash pile

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    Lordy!

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    Daddy Putin ain't gonna like this

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