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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010100616

    check out both Chandler and Walker, game is on NBATV right now; since they are playing in France

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    Always liked Walker and will never forget the beast he was in high school, but I'm a little perplexed when looking up his numbers.

    I was sure he was a great athlete, small forward at the NBA level, and that he couldn't shoot. Looking at the numbers for last year (in a decent amount of attempts - 116), he shot 43% from 3 and 50% from both the 10-15 and 16-23' ranges . . .

    Oh, and he also happened to play and defend from the 2 better than any other position.

    Health's a BIG question with him and those knees, but he definitely looks to be someone worth taking a flier on.
    You know how I feel about Mr. Walker...

    On the Spurs-- Walker> Chandler people..

    I'm so down for that to transpire.

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    I also thought about Walker and yes, he is an interesting option.
    on the other hand: Walker is 6'5'' at best (no matter how they listed him, look at him, he isn't taller) and book it, one of the reasons why the Knicks made Chandler available, is the strong play from Walker at the end of last season. however, Walker reportedly has bulked down for almost 25 lbs this summer (he looked like a line backer before) to become more mobile and more of a guard defender. in that role he isn't the best fit for the Spurs, who rather need someone, who could also defend the big SFs and perimeter PFs. (which Chandler is). the Knicks on the other hand have enough size at SF, even without Chandler. at this point Walker just makes more sense for them, Chandler for us.

    btw: it's back again!
    Knicks evaluating Wilson Chandler's progress, still working on deal for Portland's Rudy Fernandez
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...cks_radar.html
    I wonder if the whole talk doesn't come from a potential Melo trade, but from another try to get Rudy to NY. (and I bet his homesickness would be cured immediately the moment he lands in NY to play for D'Anthony)

    that's what I thought a month ago:

    much like Spain Rudy didn't have the most successful WC. on the other hand, he did remind the GMs on several occasions what a fantastic shooter he can be. from midrange as well as downtown. so there will be offers. but I really wonder what the Blazers expect. if true that they turned down the offer of Wilson Chandler, they are asking for a lot. (which is ok of course, any GM needs to at least try and I'm pretty sure Cho wanted to wait how Rudy performs at the WC). yes, they didn't really need Chandler (with Batum and Babbitt) and preferred a pick, (which the Knicks don't have).
    what about a 3 teams deal? Spurs 2011 pick to Blazers, Rudy to Knicks and Chandler to Spurs? (with some fillers to make the numbers work)

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    I guess if nothings happens with Chandler, Spurs could look the Pacers way...
    Pacers Open To Trading Wing Player

    The Pacers currently have 17 players on their roster and will need to reduce that number by at least two before the start of the regular season.

    Mike Wells of The Indianapolis Star writes that center Lance Allred, who was brought in as an extra body for training camp, will likely be cut.

    Still, the Pacers will have to make a two-for-one trade in order to reach the magic number of 15 before the 2010-11 season begins.

    They are open to trading one of their wing players because they have an excess of talent at the position.


    Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...#ixzz11cg3zlRA

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    I guess if nothings happens with Chandler, Spurs could look the Pacers way...
    Pacers Open To Trading Wing Player

    The Pacers currently have 17 players on their roster and will need to reduce that number by at least two before the start of the regular season.

    Mike Wells of The Indianapolis Star writes that center Lance Allred, who was brought in as an extra body for training camp, will likely be cut.

    Still, the Pacers will have to make a two-for-one trade in order to reach the magic number of 15 before the 2010-11 season begins.

    They are open to trading one of their wing players because they have an excess of talent at the position.


    Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...#ixzz11cg3zlRA
    paul george for 2011 1st round draft pick? do it RC

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    The Pacers wing player who should be available is Brandon Rush.

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    The Pacers wing player who should be available is Brandon Rush.
    Do it.

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    - Bill Walker's defense was terrible last year..average man defender, average p&r defender, horrible team defender..while he should get some credit for playing on a Knicks team that doesn't preach defense, he didn't show much last year..he's currently a worse defender than Chandler, even though he might have better defensive potential(which I disagree with)..

    For that reason, as mountainballer stated, he lost weight during the off-season..

    - Chandler gives the Spurs a better defender at the 3/4, and he gives a potential small ball tweener, which the Spurs have needed for years..

    - I like Chandler, but like I said, I don't think he fits well with the Spurs, due to having Jefferson..RJ's contract really hurts..

    - I don't think either guy would be a good fit here..

    - Brandon Rush would be a great fit, probably the most realistic and ideal option for the Spurs..above average man defender, good team defender, good at running through screens, very good at defending the p&r..

    While he isn't good at creating his own offense or slashing, he wouldn't really have to do that with the Spurs..he's a good spot-up shooter and screen shooter, which is all he would really need to do..

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    Brandon Rush is reminiscent of a young Mike Finley . . . Pop would love him.

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    Rush shot 41% from 3 on 302 attempts. He has nice athleticism and he is an ok defender. I would not be mad at that at all.

    I think Chandler has more upside, but I would be happy with either. The Spurs desperately need a young SF prospect.

    Rush isn't really that big though...

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    Brandon Rush is reminiscent of a young Mike Finley . . . Pop would love him.
    Except he can't score nearly as well and he is focused more on defense. He is not nearly as athletic either.

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    Pacers Roster

    2010-11 Roster
    NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
    4 Lance Allred C 6-11 250 02/02/1981 Weber State 1
    2 Darren Collison G 6-0 160 08/23/1987 UCLA 1
    17 Mike Dunleavy F-G 6-9 230 09/15/1980 Duke 8
    5 T.J. Ford G 6-0 165 03/24/1983 Texas 6
    10 Jeff Foster C 6-11 250 01/16/1977 Texas State 11
    24 Paul George F 6-8 210 05/02/1990 Fresno State R
    33 Danny Granger F-G 6-8 228 04/20/1983 New Mexico 5
    50 Tyler Hansbrough F 6-9 250 11/03/1985 North Carolina 1
    55 Roy Hibbert C 7-2 278 12/11/1986 Georgetown 2
    1 Dahntay Jones G-F 6-6 210 12/27/1980 Duke 7
    44 Solomon Jones F 6-10 245 07/16/1984 South Florida 4
    32 Josh McRoberts F 6-10 240 02/28/1987 Duke 3
    41 James Posey F 6-8 217 01/13/1977 Xavier (Ohio) 11
    22 A.J. Price G 6-2 181 10/07/1986 Connecticut 1
    15 Magnum Rolle F 6-11 225 02/03/1986 Louisiana Tech R
    25 Brandon Rush G 6-6 210 07/07/1985 Kansas 2
    6 Lance Stephenson G 6-5 210 09/05/1990 Cincinnati R

    Being realistic, probably we can't match Salaries.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana.htm
    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

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    Except he can't score nearly as well and he is focused more on defense. He is not nearly as athletic either.
    He is more focused on d because that is his role. Also, a good sign that he is willing to play that role. Finley used to be a pretty decent defender, but he was always used more as an offensive weapon early. I do agree that Rush doesn't have quite the hops that young Finley did though.

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    I know that defense is Rush's role, but the point I was making is that even though Finley was/could have been a decent defender, his offense was so good that you could not make him a defensive specialist.

    Rush has to be because his offense is not that great. That is not a bad thing and I like Rush a lot as a role player. He has shown some nice flashes.

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    didn't know about this..

    Brandon Rush(notes) – Rush has been suspended for the first five games of the season for violating the NBA’s drug policy on three separate occasions last year.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...s-2010-nba-ind

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    didn't know about this..

    Brandon Rush(notes) – Rush has been suspended for the first five games of the season for violating the NBA’s drug policy on three separate occasions last year.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...s-2010-nba-ind
    I knew about this. Seriously, this is why the Spurs would not pick this guy up. The Pacers can't wait to trade him away, them trying to have a clean slate after the brawl and all, with ownership problems. Problematic guys like him would be the first one to go.

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    the brightside to his doping is that there aren't any escalating suspensions for any future weed pops. 5 games at a time for all subsequent positive tests.

    Unless he blows off the mandated NBA Program for drugs, then yeah, it's a the length of the program plus 6 months suspended.

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    One of the few players out there that could really potentially be the type of player the Spurs need.

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    I couldn't get Rush's hotzones chart to pull up on nba.com, couldn't get any individual players to come up. I wonder how he did from the corners. I know he shot over 40% for all 2010 but the corners are what counts.

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    I think would prefer Rush over chandler...But same as chandler rumors, who or what do you give up? I think you have to wait and see how your current roster plays early in the season before making a trade like this.

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    I think would prefer Rush over chandler...But same as chandler rumors, who or what do you give up? I think you have to wait and see how your current roster plays early in the season before making a trade like this.
    one factor in moving for Rush before the season starts could be that Pacers still haven't picked up his option for next year and the deadline is the 31st and are publicly non-committal.

    One positive to Rush over Chandler would the ability to guarantee having him for the next season without having to worry about being outbid in restricted free agency like with Chandler.

    If the Pacers don't pick up his option due to his drug issues, his appeal drops.

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    I admit Rush wouldn't be a bad option, but in comparison, Chandler is taller, longer and more physical than Rush. A solid backup SF, for now, and small-ball 4-man. The kind that Pop would love.

    Too bad the Pacers aren't looking to unload Paul George instead.

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    Who cares who we would prefer if it will not happen? Neither will happen lol, I stopped on this thread a while ago (Spurs fan names random guy would fit and then it turns into an option lol). I know this is a board and we can talk, but nobody is getting traded here.

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    Who cares who we would prefer if it will not happen? Neither will happen lol, I stopped on this thread a while ago (Spurs fan names random guy would fit and then it turns into an option lol). I know this is a board and we can talk, but nobody is getting traded here.
    RC said the Spurs wanted to sign a wing defender (which was a surprise, that role should be covered by George Hill, RJ and the rookies).

    The Spurs singed Simmons to summer league, between him and Gee, Pop said the Spurs are going to pick who defends better.

    Then some twitts and there it goes.

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    first off, if the Spurs get the chance to trade for Rush without give up much, they should do it.
    if there is a chance to get either Rush or Chandler for the same price, I would take Chandler for sure.
    yes, Rush brings in the typical Spurs wing player profile (defense and 3pt shot), but IMO Chandler covers more needs. and I agree, the upside of Chandler is far better. (age is also a point there, Rush is 25, Chandler 23)
    Rush possesses exactly the same size like Anderson (6'5'' to 6'4.75'' without shoes, Rush has the better wingspan, but only the same standing reach), if Anderson isn't a total liability on defense, he will provide so much more impact overall, than Rush ever could. so Rush would give us further more depth at the position, where this roster has the most depth anyhow. and while Rush can play some SF (like Anderson) but he isn't a good option to defend the big SFs/small PFs. Chandler is.

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