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    The biggest lesson from Prohibition- if they want it, they're going to get it and it's never for the better in regards to the collateral damage occurred for the suppliers to give it to the demand side of the equation.

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    Anyone got the skinny on what meds dude was on?
    No. But this is a valid question. Doctors prescribe anti depressants out the ass with no thought to long term consequences.

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    so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

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    I'm not saying there shouldn't be gun control. No one needs assault rifles. But, removing guns isn't going to solve issues, Chicago's morgue sees this same number of carcasses every month, and the scary majority of them are gang/minority/poverty-neighborhood related homicides with illegally obtained weapons.
    It's a straw man to say that gun control will not end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile like that so easily.

    I don't think you can cure murder but I think you can certainly reduce mass shootings which are more terrifying since targets are random. Most violent crimes including murder are committed by someone the victim knows. That doesn't make it "better" but people aren't waking the streets in terror of getting murdered.

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    so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
    Did avante switch Accounts?

    That's a really strange thought. Even for ducks

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    It's a straw man to say that gun control will not end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile like that so easily.

    I don't think you can cure murder but I think you can certainly reduce mass shootings which are more terrifying since targets are random. Most violent crimes including murder are committed by someone the victim knows. That doesn't make it "better" but people aren't waking the streets in terror of getting murdered.
    He only had like, 45 guns

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    He only had like, 45 guns
    and he was rich and on the black market he would have still got them

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    It's a straw man to say that gun control will end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile like that so easily.

    I don't think you can cure murder but I think you can certainly reduce mass shootings which are more terrifying since targets are random. Most violent crimes including murder are committed by someone the victim knows. That doesn't make it "better" but people aren't waking the streets in terror of getting murdered.
    I agree. No one should own military grade weaponry, that was something proven during Prohibition/Bonnie&Clyde gangster days. But, removing guns totally is just going to create a nasty black market with uglier consequences than what we're suffering now.

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    I agree. No one should own military grade weaponry, that was something proven during Prohibition/Bonnie&Clyde gangster days. But, removing guns totally is just going to create a nasty black market with uglier consequences than what we're suffering now.
    Who is advocating for removing guns completely? Another straw man.

    The black market will thrive because we have an absolutely insane number of guns in circulation. A government buy-back program could help. Australia did that, worked out fine. Basically cash for clunkers 2.0

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    Study: Americans Own 42 Percent of 650 Million Civilian Firearms Worldwide

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    Who is advocating for removing guns completely? Another straw man.

    The black market will thrive because we have an absolutely insane number of guns in circulation. A government buy-back program could help. Australia did that, worked out fine. Basically cash for clunkers 2.0
    yes the government has lots of money or what we are in debt and roads suck ass or wait we must give foreign aid to other countries
    people are dying can not take care of ourselves

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    and he was rich and on the black market he would have still got them
    But he got them legally.

    You're OK with that?

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    I am ok with people obeying the law
    he broke the law shooting people
    I am not ok with people breaking the law coming in the usa then having a baby and making them a usa citizen

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    I am ok with people obeying the law
    he broke the law shooting people
    I am not ok with people breaking the law coming in the usa then having a baby and making them a usa citizen
    I love how you conflate life and death.

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    Did avante switch Accounts?

    That's a really strange thought. Even for ducks
    LOL. It's one of the weirdest questions ever posed on ST.

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    he killed and hurt a lot of people but what if he built a bomb instead and killed more

    all he had to do is go online and find out how to build a bomb

    are you going to make a law to take that off the internet?

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    he killed and hurt a lot of people but what if he built a bomb instead and killed more

    all he had to do is go online and find out how to build a bomb

    are you going to make a law to take that off the internet?
    Hey...what's with you wanting to pee in front of a 13 year old?

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    Who is advocating for removing guns completely? Another straw man.

    The black market will thrive because we have an absolutely insane number of guns in circulation. A government buy-back program could help. Australia did that, worked out fine. Basically cash for clunkers 2.0
    LOL, I didn't say gun control won't end all murder, and I'm not citing anyone, just generalizing the rhetoric of most anti-gun proponents.

    I'm in agreement with you on most of it. I'm saying that 1. gun control won't stop people from getting guns that want them and 2. people would be wise to learn what happens when you try and remove something ingrained in society for centuries.

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    Hey...what's with you wanting to pee in front of a 13 year old?
    Same question.

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    I love how you conflate life and death.
    are you ok with people breaking the law and getting rewarded and letting the kid become a citizen of the greatest country in the world?

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    so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
    Do you think the govt is responsible for your peeing habits?

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    LOL, I didn't say gun control won't end all murder, and I'm not citing anyone, just generalizing the rhetoric of most anti-gun proponents.

    I'm in agreement with you on most of it. I'm saying that 1. gun control won't stop people from getting guns that want them and 2. people would be wise to learn what happens when you try and remove something ingrained in society for centuries.
    I disagree that gun control won't stop people from getting guns. Look at England, Australia, Hong Kong

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    are you ok with people breaking the law and getting rewarded and letting the kid become a citizen of the greatest country in the world?
    Before we get to that...we should address your peeing in front of kids.

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    a person said I was ok with people peeing where they wanted
    I was making a point
    do you want me to pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

    1out of 1billion would not do that but since 1 out of 1 billion someone thinks the gov should have a law

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    Do you think the govt is responsible for your peeing habits?
    no my parents are not the gov
    you see parents are responsible for training you
    parents want the gov to do it for them

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