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    I didn't say he wasn't an elite defender. Part of the "trade Danny" movement is because he set an expectation of being an elite three point shooter and has fallen short of that the last two years. Personally, I'm not a big "trade Danny" guy, but I do see how people could want to upgrade at the position.
    Those people are utter morons.

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    Patty played great last year as a part time player, he struggled against golden State, but everybody did except Simmons. Spurs are paying a part time player, starter money but he was the best available for the price. George hill is just asking too much money at 31, with injuries.

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    If the Spurs struck out on Paul and Jrue and Teague and thought Hill wanted too much ...

    Just overpay Patty for one year, his cap hold is under 7 and you have full bird!

    Give him 1 year 20 million! Or 1/22! As a 'thank you' for the service.

    THEN if you still need him for whatever reason, give him a 3/30 declining. Just don't tie up Kawhi's prime like this! It's a crime!
    This would have been fine. Give him the equivalent of the Manu contract from last year. Overpay when it doesn't hurt you long term. He will be better as a regular season backup than any cheap veteran rent-a-PG, but don't commit 8 figures per year for four years. (Though we don't know the details of the fourth year.)

    The only way I'm OK with this is if they already plan to trade him this season or next summer. But that doesn't feel very Spursy: get him to take a hometown discount and then trade him.

    Why do people want to get rid of Green? He's in a fantastic deal and is far better than most on this board are willing to admit.
    Agreed. I think Green's elite shooting would return in a more flowing offense, but that requires fewer isolations and a quality point guard.

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    I mean, holy , JJ Red may be getting $20 million next year and Danny gets half that and is far better.

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    I question I have is, how did talks break off? I thought you're not allowed to talk to free agents before midnight? It seems they must have been talking before midnight?

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    I mean, holy , JJ Red may be getting $20 million next year and Danny gets half that and is far better.
    Far better at what? Defense?? That's about it...

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    ^Jrue Holliday deal

    lol at the outrage over a measly 12.5 mill/yr

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    Far better at what? Defense?? That's about it...
    Yeah, bro, because defense doesn't matter...

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    "...asking too much and didn't want to take less..." Quick! Stop the Presses!

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    He has never had a big contract in his career. He's nuts not trying to get paid. He should have at least held out for an option on a four year deal if he was going to take that kind of paycut.
    ...from a Spur Fan's perspective. Hoping, wishing and praying for the Champs to disband...to no avail! -25 points son

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    Bargain

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    Isn't this what Pop does?
    King of "Thank You" contracts.

    Thanks for what?

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    Yeah, bro, because defense doesn't matter...
    It does matter. But Green isn't a far better player tho because of it..

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    It does matter. But Green isn't a far better player tho because of it..
    Dude, it's ing half of the game. You couldn't find a GM who would take Red over Green.

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    I don't understand this contract, on a market that will be full of point guards we already locked one of the worst.
    Patty is a fine player to me, but was clearly below most of the pg that will be available.
    Last edited by kaji157; 07-01-2017 at 12:10 PM.

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    12.5 for a player who will bounce back. Good teammate and will be fine moving back to the 2

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    ^Jrue Holliday deal

    lol at the outrage over a measly 12.5 mill/yr
    I listened to a lot of podcasts too! Can I be a sports writer now???

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    I don't understand this contract, on a market that will be full of point guards we already locked one of the worst.
    Patty is a fine player to me, but was clearly below most odd the pg that will be available.
    Because hes a 2 not a 1.

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    Great value but I still wouldn't have done it. It was time to move on, tbh.

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    Great value but I still wouldn't have done it. It was time to move on, tbh.
    You have to have him in the locker room. It was a deal for work ethic and leadership not just skill.

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    Dude, it's ing half of the game. You couldn't find a GM who would take Red over Green.
    Uhhhhh what?? You literally just ed about Red possibly getting twice as much..so that's one

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    You have to have him in the locker room. It was a deal for work ethic and leadership not just skill.
    Exactly. It is a weird deal, but it is what it is. No more veterans in the team, so somebody has to lead.

    Kawhi leads by example and you can't really expect his to focus on helping others to get better. He's the machine and Mills is the guy with social skills who keeps everyone happy.

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    Maybe this has more to deal with what happens to Parker after this season. I think Murray is the pg of the future and white is a good combo guard and hopefully turns into a good role player. I als think too many people on here are thinking of the old salary cap where 12 mil is a large amount. 10-12 is going to be the average for a average role player now.

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    So the PG rotation is set:

    Murray/Mills/White/Tony

    Let's hope Murray is the real deal or we are ed.

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    Love how Mr.Body was talking defense yet he just defended locking up Fatty for four years.

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