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Gotta hand it to dabom, he said they'd keep Patty.
And here's the other thing:
Forget giving White a chance at point, EVER. It doesn't matter if Mills shoots 0% from 3 with no playmaking and defense, NO WAY HE'S SITTING WITH THAT CONTRACT
And to people who think he'll be some valuable trade asset ... How on Earth will that happen?
As trade ballast to get a deal done, maybe.
But otherwise ... The league is awash in point guards. And if 29+ year old Mills isn't hitting shots, how is he tradable? At all? With that bloated number, if he's not hitting, he's worthless.
He's not even useful as LMA's friend, to be an LMA-Whisperer, because he's sucked at that too going by there results.
Gotta hand it to dabom, he said they'd keep Patty.
Good for team culture with Manu, Tony and Timmy all likely absent from training camp.
I think most of us knew that with TP getting injured, Mills was likely to stay.
Continuity for losing to the Warriors. Great.
If Murray leaps that doesn't make things better.
Then that's money that could have been spent elsewhere.
lets see if we can culture our way past the warriors
Well yeah it's more expensive but that's not saying much considering Paddy was massively underpaid the past three years. I also think it's very likely Murray is better than last regular season's TP.
Paddy isnt consistently good in the playoffs. He especially isn't good without Kawhi to play off of. That doesn't make him completely worthless in the postseason though. Again, he's had his share of good games in the postseason. Nothing out of the ordinary for a role player making role player money.
The only thing I can think of is that the moves SA wanted to make weren't possible (trading LA) and that they feel they were closer to GS than people would have you believe and they want to run it back with minor tweaks.
I even made that argument, but with all the LMA erosion talk I faded that feeling.
the raiders/spurs are always a yin/yang.
as the raiders are finally rising, the spurs are falling
If hes just a role player and those are pretty easy to find because its nothing out of the ordinary, why pay him more? Find a replacement like thy always do with Beli, Neal, etc..
This contract is a Tony Parker loyalty like one. It's could be a good one to move next season onwards (maybe if teams still value him, depends what other PGs are out there too), but they'll never trade him, so that is why I didn't bother bringing that up as a positive. I thought about it as a positive contract to trade later on down the line, but the Spurs won't do that, so we're stuck with more dead weight and money on the team.
The Spurs have basically replaced the contract I thought they were going to get off the books with Parker at the end of next season with a new one exactly like it. Those of us that hated Parker the past two years for his contract, well guess what, we get 4 more years of that with this one from Mills.
Basically, it's a contract that doesn't help the team get closer to competing for the Championship.
I love Patty Mills, but I don't like him on a team looking to win it all (unless he's a cheap end of the bench spark plug).
What Im hoping is, is that SA brings back the same guard rotation for reasonable prices (including simmons, Mills already there now) and upgrades the front court.
If they can land Millsap or trade LMA for a PG and then use other money to upgrade, I would be good with that. The backcourt was not good enough but hand Murray the keys, keep cost down as much as possible and upgrade the front court.
Right now with no Lee/Dedmon and no TP, Spurs are literally worse everywhere (although it's obviously day 1 of FA and SA will fill Lee/ Dedmon holes).
Just think that an upgrade over LmA is needed. Or at least a talent upgrade else where.
I am with objective and Manu4tres in this one.
Also with dpg when he pointed out the Spurs backcourt had underperformed 2 postseason in a row (excepting Tony 's Indian summer against Memphis unlikely to be repeated now that he got a severe injury and is older.) And now they are just paying more and committing more years to the same mediocre crew. Only hope is for Dijons development but that is a huge gamble. He's till young and learning, his prime years are still far.
I don't know what role white plays moving on forward and even less Forbes.
With Tony out at least the first 2-3 months (or maybe longer) and Manu possibly retiring, there could be some opportunities to rotate White into the backcourt (Patty, Dejounte, and White - if he outplays Forbes). I think he has a chance if he can pick up the defensive rules. You may be correct, and he might be worse than Forbes, but it's preseason, so I'm still giving him a roster slot.
we're trotting out the same tired old bags from 2014
I have no issue drafting a PG because of exactly what you said. SA at a minimum is down one guard (TP due to injury) and could very well be down 3 with Manu retiring and Simmons getting signed else where.
Wouldn't have been against that and was expecting that to be the case. Im not arguing that re-signing him was a must. All I'm saying is this doesn't make or break the team. The contract is at the very least fair value with the added bonus of him being a great locker room guy.
So did Chinook.
I thought the same at times, but I Hoped they didn't.
Swear to god, would rather have Phil Jackson over Drunkford right now
Holy . The PJ Tucker interest seems legit after this got showed his cards and it's clear he isn't trying to win
I agree it does not make or break the team: have to see what else happens. It's just an odd start all the way around although with his cap hold, getting him to agree earlier was best case for maneuverability
I remember sitting in the AT&T Center on June, 15 2014. It mattered.
If the Spurs struck out on Paul and Jrue and Teague and thought Hill wanted too much ...
Just overpay Patty for one year, his cap hold is under 7 and you have full bird!
Give him 1 year 20 million! Or 1/22! As a 'thank you' for the service.
THEN if you still need him for whatever reason, give him a 3/30 declining. Just don't tie up Kawhi's prime like this! It's a crime!
Yeah, I would have been much, much better with them doing that. 1 year only would have been OK with me.
I really think we are down to plan B, bringing everyone back with some draft picks that will be in Austin most of the season... their plan A, the master plan didn't pan out when LMA/Danny couldn't be traded and LMA leaked thagt he wanted out.
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Don't think I'm hating on him, I've come to be very high on him after watching every thing there is out there. I even have a hunch that he's a better shooter than Mills is right now. And playmaker. And defender. I became even higher on him when reflecting on his one year of major compe ion compared to how Simmons was also a late bloomer with only one year of major compe ion. Thinking of his skill development even at his age made me much more excited for White.
But if the Spurs do match on Simmons, and Manu or Hanga signs, ...
Where's the room on the floor?
Green-Manu-Simmons at the 2, Kawhi and Anderson at the 3, Murray and Mills at the 1 ...
It's over. No time other than spot garbage. And that's without Parker.
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