The opinions of Kobes peers like Derrick Rose and Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade are far more important than yours, no offense
from what I've seen, players are much better at playing basketball than evaluating talent. and I doubt they speak their true opinion on such things anyways, you don't create bulletin board material, your opponent is always very good, possibly the best.
Basketball players vs racist, not a tough call.
Notice how many active players are near the top of the list? Part of that is ESPN trying to sell a product called NBA basketball. What's the odds that the best players ever are playing right now? More likely the most footage and analytics and stat padding based on those analytics is happening right now.
Basketball players can be racist
So they could be arguing themselves
Basketball players doesn't mean great basketball analysts.
Racists can be great basketball analyst.
You have por logic.
Basketball players have playing basketball going for them so they have credibility despite being racist.
You aren't a basketball player or a basketball analyst, you have no credibility on top of being racist.
My logic is sound.
That guy is a racist?
I thought he just hated Kobe with a passion lmao
Then being a racist has nothing to do with anything. Your logic is wrong.
Besides, I'm just a sociopathist. I hate sociopaths.
Will they put Bird above Duncan?
Should they?
They probably will. I would be a bit surprised if they didn't tbh.
I personally would have Duncan above Bird, but it is very very close in my mind I wouldn't be upset or anything if Bird was above Duncan. When you get to the top 6 or 7 ranking becomes very hard because they were all so great in different ways and played in such different eras. I mean you have MJ at one, but after that everyone's list seems to differ quite a bit.
Sure it does, chang-lee. Racism is a negative, being a basketball player is a positive.
A racist basketball player has some diminished credibility, but just a racist has none.
When someone can't actually refute your points, they go to the ad hominem.
But the negatives and positives do not relate to the subject.
Say you are an ugly mofo but is great and scooping from gutter, I can't say you are horrible at scooping from the gutter just because you are ugly. Got it? Just like you being stupid and illogical doesn't detract your from .... What are you good at?
With who is left, I'd probably go:
1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Bird
6. Shaq
7. LeBron
8. Hakeem
Wilt & Russell are too hard for me to judge since it was before my time. Wilt's two les put him towards the bottom, and who knows where Russell goes.
Being compared to someone you don't stack up to isn't necessarily a compliment.
Not sure why they have Russell Westbrook (#49) and Stephen Curry (#23,) so high on the list still so early in their respective careers. They will likely both be deserving of such high placement, but their body of work is much, much shorter than nearly everyone else in the top 100 (minus Blake Griffin & Kevin Love). They need at least another 4 or 5 years of dominant play to deserve such "accolades."
I am always curious as to why people have Magic over Kareem. IMO Kareem is the pretty clear cut #2, 6 mvps and 6 les is tough to argue with. I agree with your assessment on Wilt and Russell, very hard to judge them because of when they played.
Tony Parkers ranking:
1 Jordan
2 Kobe
They won't put Duncan over Bird tbh, but I agree with our list.
One thing is for certain, almost everyone in the top 10 now won't be in 100 years.
3. Erin Barry
Agree with the guys you said are tough to judge
Sunken snootch, D.
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