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    UFC 77: HOSTILE TERRITORY

    Date: Oct. 20, 2007
    Location: Cincinnati, OH
    Venue: U.S. Bank Arena
    Broadcast: Pay-Per-View
    Times: Doors open 7:15 p.m.; first fight 8:15 p.m.; PPV begins at 10 p.m.

    MAIN CARD

    Champion Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin (for middleweight le)
    Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera
    Stephan Bonnar vs. Eric Schafer
    Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes

    PRELIMINARY CARD

    Jason MacDonald vs. Yushin Okami
    Josh Burkman vs. Forrest Petz
    Jorge Gurgel vs. Alvin Robinson
    Ryan Jensen vs. Demian Maia
    Jason Black vs. Matt Grice


    It's bull Okami and Burkman didn't make the main card. It will be interesting to see if they mention Randy or honor him on Saturday.

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    -Anderson Silva (#1 MW) vs. Rich Franklin (#4 MW)
    -Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera
    -Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes
    -Yushin Okami vs Jason MacDonald
    -Eric Shafer vs Stephan Bonner
    -Jorge Gurgel vs Alvin Robinson
    -Matt Grice vs Jason Black
    -Josh Burkman vs Forrest Petz
    -Demian Maia vs Ryan Jensen

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    MAIN CARD

    Champion Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin (for middleweight le)
    Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera
    Stephan Bonnar vs. Eric Schafer
    Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes

    PRELIMINARY CARD

    Jason MacDonald vs. Yushin Okami
    Josh Burkman vs. Forrest Petz
    Jorge Gurgel vs. Alvin Robinson
    Ryan Jensen vs. Demian Maia
    Jason Black vs. Matt Grice

    It was a bit hard to pick between Bonnar and Eric the Red, but I give the edge to Stephen just because he's been training with Randy and Forrest.

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    Okami Vs MacDonald will make the PPV, not sure about Josh.

    Can't believe this is already here. Man UFC is on such a blinding pace right now. I know this card is getting bashed but I really like it.

    MAIN CARD

    Champion Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin (I just gotta believe)
    Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera (Win goes to the aggressor)
    Stephan Bonnar vs. Eric Schafer (No more excuses for Bonnar)
    Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes (Tuf star on the rise)

    PRELIMINARY CARD

    Jason MacDonald vs. Yushin Okami (Battle of cardio right here)
    Josh Burkman vs. Forrest Petz (Huge bounce back fight for Josh)
    Jorge Gurgel vs. Alvin Robinson (All depends on how banged up Jorge is, his knees are jacked amongst other problems)

    Jason Black vs. Matt Grice (This will be ugly)

    Need more time on this one
    Ryan Jensen vs. Demian Maia
    Last edited by Evan; 10-14-2007 at 09:19 AM.

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    I wouldnt bash this card. It's decent and the best of the month. Compared to 72 and 78, this card is Stacked.

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    wha...wait? way to go evan. jumping on the rich bandwagon? I know Leonard won't be any time soon.

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    I have always liked Rich. Always will. I will support his career even if he loses 15 fights in a row and is back to fighting in Alaska. If I fell for the hype so be it.

    I'm pretty stubborn on jumping the bandwagon in either direction. Even though I think Cro Cops fire is gone at the moment I still think he is one of the greatest fighters in his prime and can still beat any heavyweight.

    Not to speak for Leonard but I think most die hards got extremely annoyed at the UFC over promoting him. Not sure how often things like that will happen anymore. There isn't as much time to saturate the fans with hype like they could even as little as a year ago. Too many fighters and too many fights now. Only the extreme elite will be hyped like that now, before you could hype a large handful of guys with no problem.

    This is Rich's biggest fight to date. No question.
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    MAIN CARD

    Champion Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin
    Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera
    Stephan Bonnar vs. Eric Schafer
    Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes

    PRELIMINARY CARD

    Jason MacDonald vs. Yushin Okami
    Josh Burkman vs. Forrest Petz
    Jorge Gurgel vs. Alvin Robinson
    Ryan Jensen vs. Demian Maia
    Jason Black vs. Matt Grice

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    Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin
    Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera
    Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes
    Yushin Okami vs Jason MacDonald
    Eric Shafer vs Stephan Bonner
    Jorge Gurgel vs Alvin Robinson
    Matt Grice vs Jason Black
    Josh Burkman vs Forrest Petz
    Demian Maia vs Ryan Jensen (changed my pick.. :shrug)
    Last edited by oligarchy; 10-19-2007 at 02:23 PM.

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    Curious what everyone thinks about this card by the way...

    Solid? Weak? Strong? Deep? Etc....

    I think its solid card. Besides the Black Vs Grice fight there isn't a fight I am not interested in.

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    Curious what everyone thinks about this card by the way...

    Solid? Weak? Strong? Deep? Etc....

    I think its solid card. Besides the Black Vs Grice fight there isn't a fight I am not interested in.
    Hrm.. You're more interested in watching Jensen vs Maia than Black? I know Black looked horrible his last fight, but I would attribute that to poor cutting practices. I think if he cuts correctly, he wouldn't look so worn and more like his more aggressive and non-winded self. He looked fine at his natural weight (Pre-UFC), but he would be too small, thus he cuts.

    Edit: Oh, the cards looks pretty decent. I'd say solid.
    Last edited by oligarchy; 10-15-2007 at 01:21 PM.

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    Okami vs JMac isn't even the swing bout...Gurgel-Robinson is...WEAK!!

    I wouldnt bash this card. It's decent and the best of the month. Compared to 72 and 78, this card is Stacked.
    Man, I disagree...as far as a top to bottom card goes, give me 78 over 77. 77 has 2 nice fights at the top and a couple nice ones on the undercard. 78 has good/interesting fights from top to bottom IMO...but lacks a big main event.

    -Michael Bisping vs. Rashad Evans
    -Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
    -Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
    -Frank Edgar vs. Spencer Fisher
    -Ed Herman vs. Dave Terrell
    -Chris Lytle vs. Thiago Alves
    -Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
    -Tamdan McCrory vs. Akihiro Gono
    -Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

    Gono and Chonan debuting.
    Karo always puts on a show.
    Alexander/Silva will be brutal.
    Edgar/Fisher will be a FOTY candidate.
    The much awaited return of Terrell.
    Alves, who is a beast against a solid Lytle.
    Lauzon against undefeated Reinhardt.
    Aurelio's 2nd UFC fight.


    These 3 fights on a main card are a joke...
    Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes
    Eric Shafer vs Stephan Bonner
    Jorge Gurgel vs Alvin Robinson

    I'm looking fwd to Demian Maia vs Ryan Jensen and Okami vs JMac, but that's about it other than the top 2 fights...

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    Okami vs JMac isn't even the swing bout...Gurgel-Robinson is...WEAK!!



    Man, I disagree...as far as a top to bottom card goes, give me 78 over 77. 77 has 2 nice fights at the top and a couple nice ones on the undercard. 78 has good/interesting fights from top to bottom IMO...but lacks a big main event.

    -Michael Bisping vs. Rashad Evans
    -Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
    -Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
    -Frank Edgar vs. Spencer Fisher
    -Ed Herman vs. Dave Terrell
    -Chris Lytle vs. Thiago Alves
    -Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
    -Tamdan McCrory vs. Akihiro Gono
    -Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

    Gono and Chonan debuting.
    Karo always puts on a show.
    Alexander/Silva will be brutal.
    Edgar/Fisher will be a FOTY candidate.
    The much awaited return of Terrell.
    Alves, who is a beast against a solid Lytle.
    Lauzon against undefeated Reinhardt.
    Aurelio's 2nd UFC fight.


    These 3 fights on a main card are a joke...
    Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes
    Eric Shafer vs Stephan Bonner
    Jorge Gurgel vs Alvin Robinson

    I'm looking fwd to Demian Maia vs Ryan Jensen and Okami vs JMac, but that's about it other than the top 2 fights...
    I think Belcher & Starnes will be a better fight than you think. Gurgel and Robinson is dependent on the health of both fighters. The Black fight could be good if Jason comes in right, if not he needs to stop cutting.

    Maia and Jensen is going to be an ADCC match. Okami and JMac should be a good fight. Shafer and Bonnar I could care less about.

    I do like the 78 card, but it's not overly great. I like it a bit more than 77, but 77 isn't the weakest card as people are portraying it to be. 78 > 77, but depends on who you like. I can't stand Karo, which makes not want to watch him fight. Bisping vs Evans is a headliner? Eh.. if it was a co-main, i'd think 78 was one of the strongest cards.

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    leonard so this card has mild interest for you?

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    Hrm.. You're more interested in watching Jensen vs Maia than Black? I know Black looked horrible his last fight, but I would attribute that to poor cutting practices. I think if he cuts correctly, he wouldn't look so worn and more like his more aggressive and non-winded self.
    fair enough.

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    I think 77 is definitely a decently solid card. 78 is also a decent card, but the Rashad/Bisping main event has turned a lot of people off (myself included).

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    leonard so this card has mild interest for you?
    Very mild beyond Sylvia-Vera and Silva-Franklin...

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    I think 77 is definitely a decently solid card. 78 is also a decent card, but the Rashad/Bisping main event has turned a lot of people off (myself included).
    Yeah for me this has more to it that 78. I am a big fan of Bisping but that fight just doesn't do it for me.

    But thats one cool thing about the UFC's pace, just blink and there is another one around the corner for you.

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    And your picks leonard?

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    Yeah for me this has more to it that 78. I am a big fan of Bisping but that fight just doesn't do it for me.

    But thats one cool thing about the UFC's pace, just blink and there is another one around the corner for you.
    That's too bad.

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    hah....not a fan of Bisping dallaskd?

    is it his talent or personality you don't like? both?

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    And your picks leonard?
    I'm retiring from making official picks...

    I'd like to see Rich and Vera win, but I expect Silva to win in convincing fashion again. I think Vera will win too...

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    I'm retiring from making official picks...

    I'd like to see Rich and Vera win, but I expect Silva to win in convincing fashion again. I think Vera will win too...
    You can just post your picks and caveat them as, "These aren't the guys who are going to win, but the guys I want to win."

    Edit: That way everyone knows who not to pick

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