I did not say Manu discredited people's beliefs. I said if I was asked a question, I would make sure not to discredit beliefs. That's all. I would be extra sensitive to the subject, knowing it is highly emotional and be sure to be honest without being disrespectful. I in no way implied that Manu was disrespectful or discrediting. I just think he was misplaced in discussing such matters with people who do not need to know such personal things.
By saying effective, you're implying that he has an agenda, which doesn't seem to be the case. You talked about him discussing personal questions that nobody needed to know. Apparently, a fan needed to know and I'm sure many are curious. Manu was simply answering a question. He did not in any way discredit their own beliefs; he was not disrespectful.
How would you say what he said in a palatable way?
And it's not just a Manu Ginobili fan website. It's Manu's own website. He's allowed to be on his own website.
I agree. But there is a difference in inviting a debate on such matters in such an informal way versus doing it because you are trying to influence the greater good of society.
They are his fans, and they asked him. It wasn't a discussion, it was a question which he answered. If it was too personal, he wouldn't have answered it.
Projecting is a bad thing.
So why is it that no one knows Tim Duncan's official stance on religion?
Where did I say he was disrespectful? I said he brought up a serious topic that will throw more than me for a loop considering the question was implied that he just "believed".
I already said how I would answer it. I would say that many people have beliefs and are en led to them. I personally do not believe in God and that in no way means that I am right and you are wrong.
Maybe the poster assumed he did. He clarified that he didn't. I also believe in God, so that probably makes two of us there (me and the original poster). How do you know that the rest of the people in his forum widely believe in God?
Because it's Tim's choice not to talk about it. Just like it's David Robinson's choice to talk about it a lot. And it's Manu Ginobili's choice to answer a simple question and not elaborate.
Get it?
Wow...
All that in a basket forum !
Freedom is nice... but only if you think like me !
That is just great.
Different religions = wars all over the world... even on a sports forum.
Sick !
Changing the subject maybe?
Nobody knows because he chose to keep it to himself.
Just like Manu chose to be honest to himself and to his fans.
I don't think there's a difference -- either way, you're still facilitating a discussion which, in the end, is really what we we want. I don't know why motives would matter, or, any less than that, how you, as DPG21920 would know Manu's motives.
Regardless, if you agree, then what's your problem? Manu didn't discredit anyone else's belief systems in saying what he said, right? But, even if he did -- that'd be good because it would result in debate -- right? We agreed on that point.
Regardless, he simply expressed his own views on his website. If he doesn't have a right to speak to his personal issues though a medium (in this case, a website), uniquely capable of letting people get to know him beyond his role as a San Antonio Spur, when else would he be able to speak?
By saying in your other post that you would say it in a manner that does not discredit the fans' beliefs, it seemed to me that you were suggesting that that's what Manu was doing.
Your earlier post was not a direct quote, so I wanted clarify.
Now that you have, you have just said in more than ten words what Manu said in three.
Don't talk to me like I am an idiot. I get a lot of things and understand where people are coming from. Many people choose not to discuss these things because they are highly personal matters and highly controversial regardless of if that is right or wrong. Fact of the matter is that religion (even though everyone has the right to believe in anything they want) is a sensitive subject matter. I feel that answering a question (even though HE WAS NOT DISRESPECTFUL) so casually on a forum is just opening the doors to negative publicity, whether or not that is right or wrong. This is only because the perceptions of most do not agree with not believing. Robinson is no better than Manu, it is just that people can deal with preaching I believe more so than I do not.
Sorry, Godwin's Law. You lost this thread pages ago.
This I do not get. I do believe in God, personally. I was just saying how I would say something if I did not.
Satan thinks this is comical.
Not that I believe in satan, but if I did, I wouldn't be saying I'm right and you're wrong if you don't believe in satan.
Just for clarification.
Why is me deciding not to vote funny?
Then don't ask idiotic questions.
Very un-clever.
I can't believe we have 7 pages of this now, and only a translation for one question.
Most of you probably wouldn't have even known of it if I or any of the posters there had not posted it here. He was just answering a question. Why can't you let it go?opening the doors to negative publicity...
It's just that people that are Christians are easier to accept and deal with, even if you don't agree, than people that aren't Christians. It's much easier not to judge someone who's a Christian than it is to judge someone who isn't.
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In other words, Christians can't mind their own business, right? Some busybody asks Manu about religion, he answers honestly, and another busybody suddenly starts comparing him to Josh Howard, Hitler and the KKK.
psst: If you think people are talking to you like you're an idiot, that may be your first good instinct in this thread.
How is that an idiotic question? Asking how come some people do not air their beliefs is an idiotic question?
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