ESPN rumor: Spurs Interested in Nick Collison

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by timvp

Yeah, Collison would be a good addition. Defends well, rebounds well and plays smart.

But I don't see how the Spurs would get him. The only way is if Presti still has a man-crush on his pet project Ian Mahinmi. Mahinmi + second rounders + matching salary? Doubtful but that's the only way I see anything happening.

ya don't say... http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...04&postcount=3

But I was off on that trade. OKC would like two expiring contracts but instead of Oberto they'd probably ask for Splitter or Mahinmi.

[timvp]

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

ya don't say

Why'd you quote my post and link to a trade that would never happen?

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by timvp

Why'd you quote my post and link to a trade that would never happen?

Well you had previously said guys like me had no knowledge. While the trade itself would not work with Oberto, I think OKC would take on expiring contracts and a young player. If they were confident they could somehow get Splitter over then I think they'd take him. If Presti still wants Mahinmi, like you said, then that would be an option. I just like how I proposed Collison a month ago. That's all.

[EricB]

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

Well you had previously said guys like me had no knowledge. While the trade itself would not work with Oberto, I think OKC would take on expiring contracts and a young player. If they were confident they could somehow get Splitter over then I think they'd take him. If Presti still wants Mahinmi, like you said, then that would be an option. I just like how I proposed Collison a month ago. That's all.

So you want credit for proposing a trade that will never happen?

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by EricB

So you want credit for proposing a trade that will never happen?

Yep, exactly. Thanks for chiming in.

[timvp]

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

Well you had previously said guys like me had no knowledge.

Link?

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

I just like how I proposed Collison a month ago. That's all.

Collison has been a SpursTalk favorite target for about four years now . . .

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by timvp

Link?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=63

Were you not including me in this famed blame parker bandwagon?

Collison has been a SpursTalk favorite target for about four years now . . .

Link?

[Dex]

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=63

Were you not including me in this famed blame parker bandwagon?



Link?

Not that timvp ever needs any help handing someone's ass back to them, but...

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...+nick+collison

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by Dex

Not that timvp ever needs any help handing someone's ass back to them, but...

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...+nick+collison

One thread about trading a Euro-player who had no NBA experience for collison with 14 replies? Man my ass sure hurts from it being handed to me so hard!

[The Truth #6]

Yeah, we're not getting Collison for trash. At the same time, he seems like an overpaid role player. He would help us, but not with that salary.

Begin Gist rambling...

With our need for another big, I realize the advantage of trying out 10-dayers. Who knows, maybe Croshere will work out? If he can't rebound then he seems redundant.

But I wonder about the prospects of bringing Gist over this year. I'm not sure if that's even possible due to his contract. I'll defer to the Gist scholars on that one. But the reason I go back to Gist is that, at least in my opinion, he was passed over this year because of the perceived need for a long-range shooting PF (someone had to fit into Horry's cinderella sneaker.)

Tolliver was insurance in case Bonner continued to stink. Now that Bonner doesn't stink, and in fact is playing almost as well as we can expect for someone of his abilities, and that Tolliver has been cut because his role was already being filled by Bonner, I wonder if we knew then what we know now, would we not have kept Gist in the Summer? In other words, if Bonner wasn't a potential liability would we have kept Gist?

Of course that's hindsight now, but if we liked Gist then is there any reason not to bring him over this season if it's possible? I mean, if we're going to try out wash-ups like Croshere or DL players, then why not Gist, especially if he's already a part of our plans?

He'd be coming in as cold as any other new player who doesn't know the system, except that he would have some prior experience.

Our front line is still very weak outside of Tim. I suppose I don't see the point in waiting around until next year if we could use Gist now. For those who say he still needs seasoning, well, so do scrubs in the DL.

He has the tools to be a taller version of Hill on defense. Our defense needs help.

...end Gist Rambling.

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by The Truth #6

Yeah, we're not getting Collison for trash.

What's trash though? Would OKC rather have two expiring contracts? It would take some kind of finagling if you don't include someone who has a larger salary (like Oberto).

At the same time, he seems like an overpaid role player. He would help us, but not with that salary.

Begin Gist rambling...

With our need for another big, I realize the advantage of trying out 10-dayers. Who knows, maybe Croshere will work out? If he can't rebound then he seems redundant.

But I wonder about the prospects of bringing Gist over this year. I'm not sure if that's even possible due to his contract. I'll defer to the Gist scholars on that one. But the reason I go back to Gist is that, at least in my opinion, he was passed over this year because of the perceived need for a long-range shooting PF (someone had to fit into Horry's cinderella sneaker.)

I'm not a Gist scholar but I would assume he has some kind of contract with his European team.

[yavozerb]

Gist is getting 27+ minutes with his european team this year. The kid needs to stay and get playing time instead of either sitting on the bench or playing against lesser competition in austin. Also, who is to say that when Gist comes to NBA he will sign with the spurs. I do not believe they own his rights.

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by yavozerb

Gist is getting 27+ minutes with his european team this year. The kid needs to stay and get playing time instead of either sitting on the bench or playing against lesser competition in austin. Also, who is to say that when Gist comes to NBA he will sign with the spurs. I do not believe they own his rights.

You're wrong. They drafted him. They own his rights.

[EricB]

Gist was drafted by the spurs so they own his rights.

[yavozerb]

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

You're wrong. They drafted him. They own his rights.

Thanks. I wasn't sure since they cut him that they own his rights if comes back.

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by yavozerb

Thanks. I wasn't sure since they cut him that they own his rights if comes back.

Here ya go.

"An Italian Web site reported Friday that James Gist, the Spurs’ second-rounder from Maryland, had agreed to a deal with a team in Italy. A Spurs source said Gist has not yet signed with any team overseas, leaving open the possibility he still could begin next season in San Antonio.

If Gist were to sign with a foreign team, the Spurs would retain his NBA rights."

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...e=99597&spln=1

[DMX7]

What do we have to trade for him? IAN?

[Dex]

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

One thread about trading a Euro-player who had no NBA experience for collison with 14 replies? Man my ass sure hurts from it being handed to me so hard!

You asked for a link and I gave you one.

If you wanted more, you should've asked for links.

English, kids.

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by Dex

You asked for a link and I gave you one.

If you wanted more, you should've asked for links.

English, kids.

That link fails to prove, "Collison has been a SpursTalk favorite target for about four years now . . . "

[MannyIsGod]

You're excellent at losing arguments and not acknowledging it. I'll give you props for that.

[Shastafarian]

Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

You're excellent at losing arguments and not acknowledging it. I'll give you props for that.

What argument did I lose?

I guess I'm also good at attracting 28 year old UTSA students. When was the last time you posted in the Spurs forum?

[Tully365]

I think Collison would be a good role player, and since Oklahoma is a team with three good young players and a future but no hope of contending this year, it's seems plausible that they would trade him to sweep away more cap room and clear space for 2010. Collison's the kind of guy that won't do much for a young & still mediocre team like Oklahoma, but could be very helpful to a contender. I feel the same way about Jared Jeffries, too, who seems to me to be one of the better & most versatile defenders in the league right now.

Let the insults start flying... why do so many threads on spurstalk feel like gang wars where people chose sides and go for the throat of all who offer different opinions, rather than a place where basketball fans can talk about the game they supposedly love. Oh well.

[Dex]

Originally Posted by Shastafarian

That link fails to prove, "Collison has been a SpursTalk favorite target for about four years now . . . "

A post from 2006 with a horde of SpursTalk posters, timvp included, all over Nick Collison's nuts?

I'll cut you the missing year, but still..Do you need me to draw you a diagram here?

[tav1]

Originally Posted by yavozerb

Gist is getting 27+ minutes with his european team this year. The kid needs to stay and get playing time instead of either sitting on the bench or playing against lesser competition in austin. Also, who is to say that when Gist comes to NBA he will sign with the spurs. I do not believe they own his rights.

The Spurs do own his rights.

[ChumpDumper]

Originally Posted by yavozerb

Thanks. I wasn't sure since they cut him that they own his rights if comes back.

Since he was never signed by the Spurs outside of summer league, he was never cut.

[de Soto]

Hmmm...I guess finally somebody who at least could work. But I doubt that it is gonna happen. Good looking prospect though and not some psycho dickhead like Rasheed Wallace...