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it's available, now what?
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30697
SURPRISE! Dems Break Promise: Stimulus Bill to Floor Friday
by Connie Hair
02/12/2009
In a press conference Thursday, the House Republican leadership spoke candidly about being kept out of the House-Senate conference on the Obama-Pelosi-Reid so-called “economic stimulus” bill. They confirmed they had not yet seen the text of the bill as of 4 p.m.
Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said he was unsure how many Democrats would vote with Republicans again on this bill but that he thought Republicans “may get a few” Democrats to side with them. The fact that the Demos have now broken their promise to have the public able to see the bill for 48 hours may drive more Dems into the Republican camp.
“[i] don’t know, ‘cause they haven’t seen the bill either,” Boehner said.
“The American people have a right to know what’s in this bill,” Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind) told HUMAN EVENTS after the press conference. “Every member of Congress -- Republicans and Democrats -- voted to post this bill on the internet for 48 hours, 48 hours ago. We’ll see if the Democrats keep their word.”
Actually -- as of 5:15 pm, the Democrats had broken their word. The stimulus bill -- which we still haven’t seen -- will be released late tonight and will be brought up on the House floor at 9 am tomorrow.
The following statement was released by Majority Leader Steny Hoyer at 4:57 p.m.:
"The House is scheduled to meet at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow and is expected to proceed directly to consideration of the American Recovery and Reinvestment conference report. The conference report text will be filed this evening, giving members enough time to review the conference report before voting on it tomorrow afternoon."
Meanwhile, at an earlier presser Thursday, Pelosi -- while talking about legislation regarding school construction funds -- said it was vital to see the language of a bill before making decisions. ReadtheStimulus.org had the following quote:
“With all of this you have to see the language. You said this --- I said that --- I understood it to be this way --- you know, we wanted to see it in writing and when we did that then we were able to go forward."
"Around here language means a lot. Words weigh a ton and one person's understanding of a spoken description might vary from another's. We wanted to see it. And not only just I had to see it, I had to show it to my colleagues and my caucus. We wanted to take all the time that was necessary to make sure it was right."
Congressional members are also exchanging barbs via the popular social network Twitter. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) twittered, "Don't know when we're going to vote. Will the no votes delay vote just because they can? Speed is important. They know that."
House Republican Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) twittered back, “Those in favor of speed over commonsense may just be afraid of letting the People know what they are ramming through.”
UPDATE: The Democrats finally made the bill's language available around 11 p.m. Thursday, approximately 10 hours before members meet Friday to consider the bill and 38 hours short of the time promised Americans to review the bill.
it's available, now what?
10 hours before the vote, not the 48 hours like they promised...
What do you get out of it by defending them? Are you getting a little something something under the table from this bill also? Lucky bas
Are you reviewing it now?
10 hours before the vote, not the 48 hours like they promised...
What do you get out of it by defending them? Are you getting a little something something under the table from this bill also? Lucky bas
Because surely clambake, you must be getting something out of it to support these guys rushing a 1k page bill through the system on a Friday stealing billions of taxpayer dollars to fund re-elections...
I've got my people on it man, don't worry.
http://cnsnews.com/public/content/ar...x?RsrcID=43478(CNSNews.com) – Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) predicted on Thursday that none of his Senate colleagues would "have the chance" to read the entire final version of the $790-billion stimulus bill before the bill comes up for a final vote in Congress.
“No, I don’t think anyone will have the chance to [read the entire bill],” Lautenberg told CNSNews.com.
When CNSNews.com asked members of both parties on Capitol Hill on Thursday whether they had read the full, final bill, not one member could say, "Yes."
Both Republicans and Democrats told CNSNews.com they were eager to read the unseen bill--once they could get get their hands on a copy of the final legislation.
Nonetheless, members from both sides of the aisle in both the House and Senate admitted they doubted they would have adequate time to read the bill before they actually voted for it.
So you're ok with the way this is being handled?
Freemason-His people privilege, sorry.
It's being handled the way things are always handled in Washington. Feigning indignance about it now is simply ing from a party firmly out of power.
I'd be pissed too if my party was that impotent, but it's pretty stupid to expect anything else. Like I said before, all Republicans can do now is pray the economy gets worse in the next two years.
So no one. You don't really care that much outside of being able to about something political.
So you're ok with the way this is being handled?
I'm never fully ok with the way things are handled in Washington. My expectations have been low ever since I started voting and actually paid attention to the process. You guys have very high expectations for the Democrats compared to the you championed the past eight years. It's cute.
It's a simple yes or no question. Why do you have so much trouble answering yes or no?
See what I did there.
And take note everyone else, it only took a couple of posts to answer the question, rather then the 30 chump usually has to ask of everyone else before they never answer his questions.
I thought "never" was good enough.
Not as cute as the 25% increase in federal spending the Dems are proposing in their first month.
Shouldnt expectations be high when youre borrowing that much money on behalf of tax payers?
Yup.
I don't expect every effing campaign promise to be carried through, and anybody who does needs a reality check.
I also don't expect everything to change for the better 100% overnight.
It's been less than a month, and republibots are already jumping up and down screeching about "lookie, lookie they aren't living up to every one of the promises in the election".
I am pretty pumped about the general movement that has been made on a host of things, such as committing to close Gitmo, and trying to end the culture of secrecy left over from the previous s bags running the executive branch.
No one should expect to be 100% happy with everything that goes on, but as long as some fair measure of progress is being made, I think we can afford a bit of patience.
Had Republicans previously proved themselves the party of fiscal responsibility, you might have a point.
If you aren't currently reading the bill, what is your point here?Shouldnt expectations be high when youre borrowing that much money on behalf of tax payers?
Tell me again how much lead time the GOP-controlled congress gave when posting bills to be considered. I must have missed that part somewhere.
So according to you, if the last s bags that you root against did it, it's ok if the s bags your root for did it?
That makes sense.
But you're ok with this right?
Because power is more important that the country?
Oh, that's right. It is to you, being a flag-waver for the Democrats and all.
I hope the economy improves. I hope the country does better; that people are put to work, and that Obama has a great, successful presidency. I, however, believe that the stimulus package being passed now (what I know of it) is not going to allow any of that - and will prolong the increasingly desperate situation we find ourselves in - much as FDR's policies did 75 years ago.
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