2009 Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr - SpursTalk.com

Bruno · 06-15-2009, 12:31 PM

Height: 6-5
Weight: 190 lbs
Birthday: 10/17/1989
Current team: MBC Mykolaiv (Ukraine)
Nationality: Ukrainian

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Bruno · 06-15-2009, 12:34 PM

http://www.niknews.mk.ua/2009/06/15/...nedzherov-nba/

Gladyr worked out for Pistons and Spurs after a good Eurocamp.
His agent is Bouna N'Diaye.

Libri · 06-15-2009, 03:48 PM

Bouna N'Diaye is Mahinmi's agent.

ffadicted · 06-15-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Libri

Bouna N'Diaye is Mahinmi's agent.

Bruno · 06-15-2009, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Libri

Bouna N'Diaye is Mahinmi's agent.

He is also Batum's agent.

I just look at the situation:
- N'Diaye has said to DX that Gladyr will stay in the draft if he gets a promise in the second round.
- Gladyr surprisly stay in the draft.
- Gladyr worked out for two NBA teams, Spurs and Pistons.
- Spurs have a close relationship with N'Diaye.
- Spurs are an internationally oriented team.
- Spurs have an history to draft the unknown guy (Mahinmi, Hill...).
- Spurs have 3 second round picks including 2 late ones.

Connect the dots, Spurs having promised Gladyr to draft him with #51 or #53 seems to be a quite likely scenario.

Mr.Bottomtooth · 06-15-2009, 09:03 PM

Wow, that all does make a lot of sense.

timvp · 06-15-2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bruno

He is also Batum's agent.

I just look at the situation:
- N'Diaye has said to DX that Gladyr will stay in the draft if he gets a promise in the second round.
- Gladyr surprisly stay in the draft.
- Gladyr worked out for two NBA teams, Spurs and Pistons.
- Spurs have a close relationship with N'Diaye.
- Spurs are an internationally oriented team.
- Spurs have an history to draft the unknown guy (Mahinmi, Hill...).
- Spurs have 3 second round picks including 2 late ones.

Connect the dots, Spurs having promised Gladyr to draft him with #51 or #53 seems to be a quite likely scenario.

I think you nailed it. The Spurs have a VERY close relationship with Bouna N'Diaye. With Mahinmi, N'Diaye basically had Mahinmi hide in France so no other team could get a look at him. With Batum, N'Diaye and Pop came up with the plan to fake the failed physical and all the fallout to try to get Batum to slip to the Spurs. Those are tricks agents and teams almost never try to do in today's NBA.

Hopefully this is kept on the down low so a team doesn't come in and draft Gladry just because they sniffed out the Spurs want him (same with Batum and Krstic) but I'd say there's a good 50% chance he ends up with the Spurs given all the facts. The question is whether it'll be with their first pick in the second round or one of their final two picks. Honestly, I don't really care because any second round pick is unlikely to amount to anything.

I don't love his size (6-foot-5) but the rest of his game sounds intriguing. Gambling with unknowns in the second round is usually the way to strike gold.

tav1 · 06-16-2009, 12:48 AM

Of course the Pistons select 35, 39, and 44.

Blackjack · 06-16-2009, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Bruno

He is also Batum's agent.

I just look at the situation:
- N'Diaye has said to DX that Gladyr will stay in the draft if he gets a promise in the second round.
- Gladyr surprisly stay in the draft.
- Gladyr worked out for two NBA teams, Spurs and Pistons.
- Spurs have a close relationship with N'Diaye.
- Spurs are an internationally oriented team.
- Spurs have an history to draft the unknown guy (Mahinmi, Hill...).
- Spurs have 3 second round picks including 2 late ones.

Connect the dots, Spurs having promised Gladyr to draft him with #51 or #53 seems to be a quite likely scenario.

Great work, Bruno.

This would definitely be the classic Spurs pick, only thanks to your work, it won't be quite the surprise.

I'm not sure of this guy's measurements (other than the 6' 5" listed) or talent, but this would definitely be a pick with keeping the pipeline stocked in mind.(Which, when you consider the success-rate of a late second-rounder, taking a flier/gamble isn't all that bad of an idea)

Mr. Body · 06-16-2009, 01:33 AM

I'll bank on him with one of the late picks.

Bruno · 06-16-2009, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21

I'm not sure of this guy's measurements (other than the 6' 5" listed)

He has been measured at this year Eurocamp:
http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6824
Weight: 190
Height barefoot: 6'4.5"
Height with shoes: 6'5.5"
Standing reach:8'5"
Wingspan: 6'7"
No step vert: 31'
Max vert: 32'
3/4 court sprint: 3.3

Blackjack · 06-16-2009, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Bruno

He has been measured at this year Eurocamp:
http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6824
Weight: 190
Height barefoot: 6'4.5"
Height with shoes: 6'5.5"
Standing reach:8'5"
Wingspan: 6'7"
No step vert: 31'
Max vert: 32'
3/4 court sprint: 3.3

Thanks.

(I guess I shouldn't completely abandon nbadraft.net.

)

Decent height for a 2-guard but that wingspan and reach isn't very impressive at all. (Avg. 6' 4.5" players wingspan and reach are 6' 9.8" 8' 6.5" respectively)

So, he's not long, but it at least he doesn't look to be too explosive of an athlete, either.

EricB · 06-16-2009, 02:52 AM

Intriguing prospect, and one that wouldn't shock me to be made.

Bruno, if you can see this, would he be a draft and stash style player?

Bruno · 06-16-2009, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by EricB

Bruno, if you can see this, would he be a draft and stash style player?

Obviously, yes.
He is very young and hasn't played at a high level in Europe.

mountainballer · 06-22-2009, 08:37 AM

wow, DX suddenly has Gadyr picked at #32.
(nbadraft has him at #48)

timvp · 06-22-2009, 05:08 PM

Gladyr has been moving up the mock drafts. He went from undrafted to near the beginning of the second round. Is he worth the gamble at 37?

I think it'd be a decent enough pick. It wouldn't help now but chances are no second round pick will help now. Might as well take a shot on someone who could grow into a quality player.

DPG21920 · 06-22-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by timvp

Gladyr has been moving up the mock drafts. He went from undrafted to near the beginning of the second round. Is he worth the gamble at 37?

I think it'd be a decent enough pick. It wouldn't help now but chances are no second round pick will help now. Might as well take a shot on someone who could grow into a quality player.

So you have given up on the Spurs getting a rotation player out of this years draft totally? Or just as things stand today with the current picks possessed by the Spurs.

timvp · 06-22-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by DPG21920

So you have giving up on the Spurs getting a rotation player out of this years draft totally? Or just as things stand today with the current picks possessed by the Spurs.

Yeah, I don't think this draft is going to result in a rotation player for the Spurs. Pop has never traded up and at 37, it'd be foolish to think you can draft someone and expect him to make an impact.

Pistons < Spurs · 06-22-2009, 05:25 PM

Dumars is said to be narrowing down his second round options (picks#35,#39,#44) based on their willingness to play overseas for a year or 2. Gladyr obviously fits that mold and is one of the guys I'm expecting him to go after. But I don't think anyone expected him to cost such a high 2nd rounder. I have to believe DX is off on this sudden rise of his stock.

timvp · 06-22-2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Pistons < Spurs

Dumars is said to be narrowing down his second round options (picks#35,#39,#44) based on their willingness to play overseas for a year or 2. Gladyr obviously fits that mold and is one of the guys I'm expecting him to go after. But I don't think anyone expected him to cost such a high 2nd rounder. I have to believe DX is off on this sudden rise of his stock.

Yeah, if the Spurs don't pick Gladyr, I think the Pistons take him with 39 or 44. Supposedly, the two teams most linked to him are the Spurs and the Pistons.

DPG21920 · 06-22-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by timvp

Yeah, I don't think this draft is going to result in a rotation player for the Spurs. Pop has never traded up and at 37, it'd be foolish to think you can draft someone and expect him to make an impact.

Have the Spurs with some of their expiring/partially guaranteed contracts and the market ever shaped up like this before?

You do not think that the Spurs will move Oberto or teams would take him in order to do a draft day deal?

Russ · 06-22-2009, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by timvp

With Mahinmi, N'Diaye basically had Mahinmi hide in France so no other team could get a look at him.

Unfortunately, the plan has been embraced far past the draft.

06-15-2009, 12:31 PM	#1
Bruno Bruce Almighty Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $80850 Post Count: 11,395	2009 Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Height: 6-5 Weight: 190 lbs Birthday: 10/17/1989 Current team: MBC Mykolaiv (Ukraine) Nationality: Ukrainian DraftExpress

06-15-2009, 12:34 PM	#2
Bruno Bruce Almighty Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $80850 Post Count: 11,395	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr http://www.niknews.mk.ua/2009/06/15/...nedzherov-nba/ Gladyr worked out for Pistons and Spurs after a good Eurocamp. His agent is Bouna N'Diaye.

06-15-2009, 09:14 PM	#7
timvp Get Refuel Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $67752 Post Count: 44,999	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by Bruno He is also Batum's agent. I just look at the situation: - N'Diaye has said to DX that Gladyr will stay in the draft if he gets a promise in the second round. - Gladyr surprisly stay in the draft. - Gladyr worked out for two NBA teams, Spurs and Pistons. - Spurs have a close relationship with N'Diaye. - Spurs are an internationally oriented team. - Spurs have an history to draft the unknown guy (Mahinmi, Hill...). - Spurs have 3 second round picks including 2 late ones. Connect the dots, Spurs having promised Gladyr to draft him with #51 or #53 seems to be a quite likely scenario. I think you nailed it. The Spurs have a VERY close relationship with Bouna N'Diaye. With Mahinmi, N'Diaye basically had Mahinmi hide in France so no other team could get a look at him. With Batum, N'Diaye and Pop came up with the plan to fake the failed physical and all the fallout to try to get Batum to slip to the Spurs. Those are tricks agents and teams almost never try to do in today's NBA. Hopefully this is kept on the down low so a team doesn't come in and draft Gladry just because they sniffed out the Spurs want him (same with Batum and Krstic) but I'd say there's a good 50% chance he ends up with the Spurs given all the facts. The question is whether it'll be with their first pick in the second round or one of their final two picks. Honestly, I don't really care because any second round pick is unlikely to amount to anything. I don't love his size (6-foot-5) but the rest of his game sounds intriguing. Gambling with unknowns in the second round is usually the way to strike gold.

06-16-2009, 12:48 AM	#8
tav1 Veteran Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $46650 Post Count: 1,733	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Of course the Pistons select 35, 39, and 44.

06-16-2009, 01:27 AM	#9
Blackjack #1 Poster Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $69300 Post Count: 6,056	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by Bruno He is also Batum's agent. I just look at the situation: - N'Diaye has said to DX that Gladyr will stay in the draft if he gets a promise in the second round. - Gladyr surprisly stay in the draft. - Gladyr worked out for two NBA teams, Spurs and Pistons. - Spurs have a close relationship with N'Diaye. - Spurs are an internationally oriented team. - Spurs have an history to draft the unknown guy (Mahinmi, Hill...). - Spurs have 3 second round picks including 2 late ones. Connect the dots, Spurs having promised Gladyr to draft him with #51 or #53 seems to be a quite likely scenario. Great work, Bruno. This would definitely be the classic Spurs pick, only thanks to your work, it won't be quite the surprise. I'm not sure of this guy's measurements (other than the 6' 5" listed) or talent, but this would definitely be a pick with keeping the pipeline stocked in mind.(Which, when you consider the success-rate of a late second-rounder, taking a flier/gamble isn't all that bad of an idea) _____________________________ The chazley reign is over . . . *Championship Post*

06-15-2009, 03:48 PM	#3
Libri Veteran Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $80700 Post Count: 4,307	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Bouna N'Diaye is Mahinmi's agent.

06-15-2009, 04:16 PM	#4
ffadicted I am a motherfucker Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $5700 Post Count: 5,364	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by Libri Bouna N'Diaye is Mahinmi's agent. _____________________________ Neymar > Messi

06-15-2009, 09:00 PM	#5
Bruno Bruce Almighty Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $80850 Post Count: 11,395	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by Libri Bouna N'Diaye is Mahinmi's agent. He is also Batum's agent. I just look at the situation: - N'Diaye has said to DX that Gladyr will stay in the draft if he gets a promise in the second round. - Gladyr surprisly stay in the draft. - Gladyr worked out for two NBA teams, Spurs and Pistons. - Spurs have a close relationship with N'Diaye. - Spurs are an internationally oriented team. - Spurs have an history to draft the unknown guy (Mahinmi, Hill...). - Spurs have 3 second round picks including 2 late ones. Connect the dots, Spurs having promised Gladyr to draft him with #51 or #53 seems to be a quite likely scenario.

06-16-2009, 01:33 AM	#10
Mr. Body Body Of Work Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $33850 Post Count: 9,206	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr I'll bank on him with one of the late picks.

06-16-2009, 01:42 AM	#11
Bruno Bruce Almighty Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $80850 Post Count: 11,395	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21 I'm not sure of this guy's measurements (other than the 6' 5" listed) He has been measured at this year Eurocamp: http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6824 Weight: 190 Height barefoot: 6'4.5" Height with shoes: 6'5.5" Standing reach:8'5" Wingspan: 6'7" No step vert: 31' Max vert: 32' 3/4 court sprint: 3.3

06-16-2009, 02:37 AM	#12
Blackjack #1 Poster Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $69300 Post Count: 6,056	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by Bruno He has been measured at this year Eurocamp: http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6824 Weight: 190 Height barefoot: 6'4.5" Height with shoes: 6'5.5" Standing reach:8'5" Wingspan: 6'7" No step vert: 31' Max vert: 32' 3/4 court sprint: 3.3 Thanks. (I guess I shouldn't completely abandon nbadraft.net.) Decent height for a 2-guard but that wingspan and reach isn't very impressive at all. (Avg. 6' 4.5" players wingspan and reach are 6' 9.8" 8' 6.5" respectively) So, he's not long, but it at least he doesn't look to be too explosive of an athlete, either.

06-16-2009, 02:52 AM	#13
EricB Govt, stay away! Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $76958 Post Count: 8,092	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Intriguing prospect, and one that wouldn't shock me to be made. Bruno, if you can see this, would he be a draft and stash style player? _____________________________ "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence." ~~ William John Henry Boetcker “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” – Patrick Henry

06-16-2009, 04:45 AM	#14
Bruno Bruce Almighty Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $80850 Post Count: 11,395	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by EricB Bruno, if you can see this, would he be a draft and stash style player? Obviously, yes. He is very young and hasn't played at a high level in Europe.

06-22-2009, 08:37 AM	#15
mountainballer Veteran Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $55650 Post Count: 2,279	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr wow, DX suddenly has Gadyr picked at #32. (nbadraft has him at #48)

06-22-2009, 05:08 PM	#16
timvp Get Refuel Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $67752 Post Count: 44,999	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Gladyr has been moving up the mock drafts. He went from undrafted to near the beginning of the second round. Is he worth the gamble at 37? I think it'd be a decent enough pick. It wouldn't help now but chances are no second round pick will help now. Might as well take a shot on someone who could grow into a quality player.

06-22-2009, 05:22 PM	#17
DPG21920 4 more years. Guaranteed. Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $1029095 Post Count: 18,667	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by timvp Gladyr has been moving up the mock drafts. He went from undrafted to near the beginning of the second round. Is he worth the gamble at 37? I think it'd be a decent enough pick. It wouldn't help now but chances are no second round pick will help now. Might as well take a shot on someone who could grow into a quality player. So you have given up on the Spurs getting a rotation player out of this years draft totally? Or just as things stand today with the current picks possessed by the Spurs. Last edited by DPG21920; 06-22-2009 at 05:34 PM..

06-22-2009, 05:24 PM	#18
timvp Get Refuel Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $67752 Post Count: 44,999	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by DPG21920 So you have giving up on the Spurs getting a rotation player out of this years draft totally? Or just as things stand today with the current picks possessed by the Spurs. Yeah, I don't think this draft is going to result in a rotation player for the Spurs. Pop has never traded up and at 37, it'd be foolish to think you can draft someone and expect him to make an impact.

06-22-2009, 05:25 PM	#19
Pistons < Spurs My Playlist > Yours Team: Detroit Pistons Dynasty League 1: 52-30 (3rd in Pacific Division) Dynasty League 2: 24-58 (6th in Atlantic Division) SpursTalk Cash: $18000 Post Count: 24,823	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Dumars is said to be narrowing down his second round options (picks#35,#39,#44) based on their willingness to play overseas for a year or 2. Gladyr obviously fits that mold and is one of the guys I'm expecting him to go after. But I don't think anyone expected him to cost such a high 2nd rounder. I have to believe DX is off on this sudden rise of his stock.

06-22-2009, 05:28 PM	#20
timvp Get Refuel Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $67752 Post Count: 44,999	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by Pistons < Spurs Dumars is said to be narrowing down his second round options (picks#35,#39,#44) based on their willingness to play overseas for a year or 2. Gladyr obviously fits that mold and is one of the guys I'm expecting him to go after. But I don't think anyone expected him to cost such a high 2nd rounder. I have to believe DX is off on this sudden rise of his stock. Yeah, if the Spurs don't pick Gladyr, I think the Pistons take him with 39 or 44. Supposedly, the two teams most linked to him are the Spurs and the Pistons.

06-22-2009, 05:36 PM	#21
DPG21920 4 more years. Guaranteed. Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $1029095 Post Count: 18,667	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by timvp Yeah, I don't think this draft is going to result in a rotation player for the Spurs. Pop has never traded up and at 37, it'd be foolish to think you can draft someone and expect him to make an impact. Have the Spurs with some of their expiring/partially guaranteed contracts and the market ever shaped up like this before? You do not think that the Spurs will move Oberto or teams would take him in order to do a draft day deal?

06-22-2009, 06:51 PM	#22
Russ Spurs Sage Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $72450 Post Count: 2,619	Re: Draft Prospect: Sergey Gladyr Originally Posted by timvp With Mahinmi, N'Diaye basically had Mahinmi hide in France so no other team could get a look at him. Unfortunately, the plan has been embraced far past the draft. _____________________________

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