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    Sam Adams is "good" beer if all you have to compare it to is mass-brewed American crap.
    Sam Adams' Boston Lager and Irish Red are pretty good. I don't like the other ones I have tried much though (Summer Ale, Winter Ale, Black Lager, Honey Porter, and Octoberfest).

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    Reinheitsgebot is more of a marketing ploy than it is a anything in Germany these days. It's no longer an in-effect law and only in Bavaria does anybody really seem to give a crap. Even then, technically Weissbiers would be in violation of Reinheitsgebot.
    The Germans never called a Weisen a bier. They called it a Weisen, or like you said, a weissbier. The law was replaced in 1993 (I left in 1992) and they had plenty of weisens and other drinks available. I hadn't found an english translation of the new naw, and I don't retain enough German. I would disagree with the marketing ploy, most of them still want to retain the naming history. I'll bet it was to allow imports without relabeling the bottles. I'll bet the law was replaced partially because of the retail sale price limitations of other types and partially for imports. Not because they could not be made.
    Tons of awesome funky American craft beers (that use other natural ingredients) would also be in violation.
    Again, it doesn't have to be called bier. They can call it beer, out of respect for tradition.
    Germany has a new, but slowly evolving craft beer scene themselves, but beer as a whole is down over there. I suspect partly because the Purity Law tradition has effectively stifled any innovation in brewing.
    Bullshit. Again, they just couldn't call it bier before! They could brew something in violation of the law and call it something else all along. I hope they didn't really remove the part that it cannot be called Bier if something else was used. That I think is an awesome law. Besides, maybe they only struck doen the part of the law that said
    German's have been drinking the same beer for 500 years (but they are definitely the best at making those particular traditional styles!).
    Each community has it's own brewery, at least one. They have had trade for a thousand years or so. It would be more correct to saw they were drinking the same hundreds of biers.

    I do have a 500th anniversary stein from one of the city's anniversary party. I forget which one. I'll have to pull it out sometime.
    call me ignorant then but Budweiser has never let me down.
    Will you stop drinking from the urinals of a brewpub please.

    That's piss water. I have not been able to stomach Miller, Bud, Coors, etc. since leaving Germany.

    What is it, a 3.2% fake Pilsner? Very few good beers are that weak.

    The Warsteiner (pilsner) I drank in Germany was 4.8%. Pilsners I think are normally between 4% to 5%. Because of Oregon law, anything over I think 3.4% cannot be called beer! You will find them called an ale, or something else. The Twilight I have in hand now is a 5% Pilsner, and does not taste like piss water. If an import to Oregon has more than 3.4% and says "beer" on it, it has to be relabeled if it is to be sold here.
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    lol scott
    for some reason every time you post about beer i just imagine some guy wearing an OU shirt, with a five oclock shadow, passed out under the tap of his la muerta at free tail, with old pizza crust crumbs and dried bbq sauce all over his face and shirt.
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    what are pizza crust crumbs?, you mean scraps or pizza leavings
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    Sadly enough, I would already have a La Muerta shirt and a Freetail hat but you had/have a crappy bartender out there who looked like he wanted to do anything except serve beer or even look at the several customers who had empty glasses.

    I asked him how much the shirt was and he told me $30. Seemed a bit steep so I asked how much a cap was. He said it was $30 also. As awesome as they were, they were a little rich for my blood at the moment.

    I later told a beer buddy of mine that I was going to go back and get both and he told me they actually cost much less than that.

    So not only did I drink two less beers than I wanted due to the crappy service provided by this guy, I apparently also missed out on a La Muerta shirt.

    Luckily for the rest of the Freetail crew, it takes more than crappy service to keep me away from great beer.
    Hey man, I'm really upset to hear this is the kind of service you got. We've never had a $30 shirt or $30 hat, and the kind of service you describe is completely unacceptable. I'm going to shoot you a PM to discuss a little more, and at the very least I hope you let me buy you a couple of pints to make up for it.

    Cheers,

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    I think I've seen that Freetail place around where I work but never been there.

    maybe need to come by during lunch for a beer.

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    I have a new favourite beer since this weekend:

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    Sucker for IPA's here:

    What I'm drinkin this weekend:

    http://www.victorybeer.com/hopdevil.html
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    Czech beer is the best! Especially black beer.



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    I disagree. It's much better to drink BOTH of them, one right after the other.

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    Sucker for IPA's here:

    What I'm drinkin this weekend:

    http://www.victorybeer.com/hopdevil.html
    IPA's fucking rule. This is the one I'm loyal to:


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    with all the great beers and ales of the world, I don't see how people want to sit around the house and drink that miller lite crap, or coors lite or bud lite or whatever...

    I can see maybe if you are at an event or party, and just want to guzzle something lite and tasteless, but when you're relaxing ... drink something better.

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    I was just about to bring up Ruination too.
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    Sucker for IPA's here:

    What I'm drinkin this weekend:

    http://www.victorybeer.com/hopdevil.html
    If you're in the NW, you should try this one. The bitters actually have a very nice taste.


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    Pale ale's are good... but super IPA's are just way too much bitter for me. I tried Sierra Nevada's Torpedo and it was too funky.

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    One thing to look for when you see a too good to be true sale on your favorite beer. Check the born on date. Beer will loose it's flavor when it gets old. I have bought some imported beer that I never had before but it tasted like "Skunk Beer" You never know how long it's been sitting in the cooler going thru cooling cycles

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    Sadly enough, I would already have a La Muerta shirt and a Freetail hat but you had/have a crappy bartender out there who looked like he wanted to do anything except serve beer or even look at the several customers who had empty glasses.

    I asked him how much the shirt was and he told me $30. Seemed a bit steep so I asked how much a cap was. He said it was $30 also. As awesome as they were, they were a little rich for my blood at the moment.

    I later told a beer buddy of mine that I was going to go back and get both and he told me they actually cost much less than that.

    So not only did I drink two less beers than I wanted due to the crappy service provided by this guy, I apparently also missed out on a La Muerta shirt.

    Luckily for the rest of the Freetail crew, it takes more than crappy service to keep me away from great beer.
    Ya, I had a similar experience the only time I went (minus the apparel drama ).

    I had been wanting to check the place out for a while and I finally dragged my 2 brothers and friend out there. Very cool set up and the beer was good. I tried the Porter, Hefe and one other.

    We sat outside and basically got ignored for a long time. I had to go inside twice to get a round and the bartender inside ignored me for quite a while as well and it was not all that busy. He was just talking and talking and then when he took my order, it took him 5-6 minutes just to fill up 3 beers (he actually told me he forgot me on accident and had to re take my order).

    The waitresses outside were nice enough, but they did not seem like they wanted to bother with our table for some reason. Oh well, the beer was pretty good and I am glad I got to check out a fellow ST's business before I moved away.

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    I cannot get into IPA's or other really "hoppy" beers. I guess I have not developed that taste yet. I like darker beer and reds. I really like Shiner Black and Tilburg Dutch Brown Ale.

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    where's a good place in san antonio to buy beer? I mean the kinds of beers that are being discussed in this thread.

    I have bought expensive imported beers many times, but lots of times I get a skunky 6-pack, like it was improperly kept or something...

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    Not much of a beer drinker. More of a vodka/bloody Mary/White Russian/MArtini kind of gal. But I've always liked the "Blue Moon" beer.

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    where's a good place in san antonio to buy beer? I mean the kinds of beers that are being discussed in this thread.

    I have bought expensive imported beers many times, but lots of times I get a skunky 6-pack, like it was improperly kept or something...
    HEB Central Market on Broadway.
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    If you're in the NW, you should try this one. The bitters actually have a very nice taste.

    NE not NW.

    Pennsylvania is crazy with its beer laws.

    Have to go to a "6 pack store" to get 6 packs - or to a "distributor", and they only sell cases; luckily we have a good one in town, and I have a really nice choice of good cases.

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    where's a good place in san antonio to buy beer? I mean the kinds of beers that are being discussed in this thread.

    I have bought expensive imported beers many times, but lots of times I get a skunky 6-pack, like it was improperly kept or something...
    It's been years since I've been there, but I know Hills & Dale's on the NW side has a ridiculous selection of beers.

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