He could have gone to a contender and played 6th man. Instead he felt he was too good to come off the bench, and went to a scrub team. Selfish Dumbass
Stupidest player on the planet, except for maybe Rubio
Their playoff drought is expanding faster than the universe . . . They once took a lead, just to see how it feels . . . They play good defense, on offense . . . They live vicariously through 2010 . . . They are, the Least Interesting Team in the World. -The Knicks
As much as an Iverson fan as I used to be, for a GM to taint young talent like Arthur,Gay, Mayo, Gasol, Thabeet, and Conley w/ cancers like Randolph and Iverson is beyond me.........
"CP3 inherited God's ability to create" .... -Timberwolves fan
"Still here dancing with the groogrux king, we'll be drinking big whiskey while we dance and sing..."(R.I.P. Leroi Moore)
Antonio Daniels went to Bowling Green (I believe) before most people even knew what the MAC was. And, he went (again, I believe) to college for three years. There's quite a difference.
Plus, if you look at that 2007 draft, after Oden, Durant, and Horford, it was pretty much a crap shoot who was the next best talent. It's not like the Grizz took Darko ahead of Melo, Bosh, and Wade. They took Conley ahead of Jeff Green, Yi Jianlian, Corey Brewer, and Brandan Wright. The next best point guard was Acie Law and he sucks as a pro too. So, it's not like there was much to offer from alternative draft prospects.
Iverson signing sets Memphis back
If you are Allen Iverson, Wednesday is a day for celebration. After the worst season of your professional career, a season in which your presence was viewed as the cause of the demise of one franchise (Detroit) and your absence was touted as one of the reasons for the success of another (Denver), you still managed to squeeze $3.5 million and a chance for redemption out of the Memphis Grizzlies.
If you are a Grizzlies fan, well, you are looking for the nearest blunt instrument to cave your own head in.
Iverson's signing with Memphis is one of the most jaw-dropping moves in recent NBA history. Not because Iverson isn't still a viable player; even in last season's debacle in Detroit, Iverson still managed to score 17.5 points per game. But because Iverson is the last -- repeat, the last -- thing the rebuilding Grizzlies need right now.
Consider: From a distance, Memphis is a franchise that appears to be in dire straights. The Grizzlies haven't won more than 24 games in each of the last three seasons and they have rotated five coaches -- Mike Fratello, Tony Barone, Marc Iavaroni, Johnny Davis and Lionel Hollins -- in and out during that period. They haven't won a playoff game in the team's 14-year history, a drought that figures to extend well into the next decade.
But look closer and you will see that the Grizzlies are several stages into what has been a comprehensive rebuilding process. They have dynamic young talent at the wing positions in O.J. Mayo and Rudy Gay. They have a highly touted prospect at point guard in Mike Conley. They have a tough, physical center in Marc Gasol and a shot-blocking menace-in-the-making in rookie Hasheem Thabeet. The foundation of a championship team? Not yet, but certainly one headed in the right direction.
Not anymore. By adding Iverson (as well as Zach Randolph, who was acquired from the Clippers last month) to the mix, the Grizzlies are risking the long-term health of the franchise for a few short-term rewards. Memphis undoubtedly will win a few more games. It might even crack the 30-win barrier. But all that really means is the Grizzlies will be out of the playoff race by January instead of December and they may jump from the team with the 29th-worst attendance (12,745 per game last season) to one with the 25th-worst.
And at what cost? Iverson is little more than a well-paid mercenary using Memphis to try to revive his stalled career. He will certainly cut into Mayo's and Conley's minutes and likely will take time away from the slimmed-down Marcus Williams, who showed in the Las Vegas summer league that he could be a capable backup point guard.
Iverson will demand shots that should be going to Gay and he will be given key fourth-quarter scoring opportunities that should be going to anyone else. The same things can be said for Randolph, who will eat into Gasol's and Thabeet's minutes and will frustrate his teammates with his unwillingness to pass the ball out of the post and his propensity to launch shots from anywhere inside the half-court line. One of the most frequently repeated lines by NBA coaches is that they hope Randolph makes his first three-pointer -- because that guarantees he will take five more.
It will be interesting to see how Hollins handles the Grizzlies' lineup. In a perfect world, Randolph would slide into the starting power forward spot (with Thabeet coming off the bench) and Iverson would become a Vinny Johnson-like sixth man. Mayo and Conley would continue to start and Gay, one of the top performers at the USA Basketball camp in July, would have the offensive freedom he needs to grow as a scorer. They would run an inside-out offense and get the kind of ball movement that leads to open shots.
But what seems more likely is that Iverson eventually forces his way into the starting lineup and Iverson, Mayo and Randolph battle each other for shot attempts (contested or otherwise) while Gay is left to scrap for leftovers.
Multiple sources say the interest in Iverson came from the owner's box. That makes sense. Because this is not a basketball move, it's a financial one. As basketball moves go, this one is the worst.
Weird move for the Grizzlies..Mayo, Iverson, Randolph and Gay on one team...WOW.
It's a nonsense move for both Memphis and Iverson.
Iverson Worth The Risk For Grizzlies
? Fair question, because many around the league are asking the same thing. As one East general manager told me, "You have a kid like Mike Conley. You have a kid like O.J. Mayo. You have Rudy Gay. You have Hasheem Thabeet, the No. 2 pick in the draft. How is a guy like Iverson going to help them?"
Considering the events of last season, when Iverson was traded to Detroit for Chauncey Billups and proceeded to shred the Pistons' chemistry, skepticism about Memphis' signing of Iverson to a one-year, $3.5 million deal is rampant. But it shouldn't be. Because, in the end, consider what the Grizzlies just did—they signed the 16th-leading scorer in NBA history to a contract that ends in seven months and costs them less than half what they're due to pay Marko Jaric.
There are four ways this thing can play out for the Grizzlies, and even the worst-case scenario is not all that bad.
1. Everything could be perfect. Iverson could come in, average 20 points, be a leader and model teammate, and lift the Grizzlies into the Western Conference playoffs. He could become so popular in Memphis—which is in need of some sporting heroism in the wake of the University of Memphis' hoops collapse—that he signs with the team next summer. This is, admittedly, a remote possibility.
2. Iverson could have a productive season in Memphis. Chances are, the lack of interest in Iverson this summer has been humbling. The attitude and work-ethic problems that have attached themselves to Iverson's reputation, and which were amplified by the Detroit disaster, remain his biggest problem.
But you have to think that if Iverson is serious about wanting to compete for a championship, he understands that he needs to put out a good effort on the floor and an even better effort in practice and in the locker room. If that means he comes off the bench and plays teacher's pet to coach Lionel Hollins, then he comes off the bench and plays teacher's pet. It's the only way a contender will be interested in him next summer, and he must realize that.
In the meantime, though, the Grizzlies will get one of the greatest scorers in league history for a year, and hopefully sell tickets to boot.
3. Iverson could have a productive half-season in Memphis. This is the really intriguing possibility for the Grizzlies. Memphis will be 53 games into its 2009-10 schedule when the trading deadline rolls around. Iverson is not really part of the team's future, so if he goes through the first three-plus months playing well and not causing problems, the Grizzlies might have the chance to offer him up to a contending team in need for a draft pick or a young player. It's a something-for-nothing proposal.
4. The whole thing could be a disaster. If it is a disaster, you know what? The Grizzlies can simply cut Iverson. They'll be out $3.5 million, but weighing that potential loss against the potential benefits of the deal, it's worth the risk.
so Mayo is going to the Lakers for Sasha and Luke?
will look like this. only difference: the player with the ball will wear the same uniform like the 3 others.
Iverson: Goal is to win in signing with Memphis
Allen Iverson wants to prove he’s not finished yet. The Memphis Grizzlies want to rev up the rebuilding process with a young roster.
That is why the 34-year-old Iverson signed a one-year contract Thursday with a team that hasn’t reached the playoffs since 2006 and has never won a postseason game. The Grizzlies is coming off a 24-58 season that tied for fifth-worst in the NBA.
“This year for me is so personal,” Iverson said.
“It’s basically going to be my rookie season again. It hurts, but I turn the TV on, I read the paper, I listen to some of the things people say about me having the season that I had last year and me losing a step, things like that. They’re trying to put me in a rocking chair already.”
The Grizzlies announced they had signed the former NBA MVP and 10-time All Star on Thursday morning minutes before Iverson was introduced at a news conference. The 13-year veteran was welcomed with a standing ovation in an atmosphere that felt like a pep rally with fans welcomed to the lobby of the FedExForum.
General manager Chris Wallace called Iverson one of the NBA’s all-time great guards and a great day for the team, the Grizzlies’ loyal fans and the city of Memphis. The team had been courting Iverson since July, a process that sped up with a meeting Monday night in Atlanta over dinner with the guard, Wallace, team owner Michael Heisley and coach Lionel Hollins.
“This guy has many years of basketball left in him … and he is eager. He expressed it to us to get going with the task of helping our team reach a whole other level of success,” Wallace said.
Iverson reportedly received an incentive-laden deal with a base salary of about $3.5 million. He immediately becomes the biggest name ever stretched across the back of a Grizzlies jersey. The franchise has only one All-Star in its history—Pau Gasol in 2006.
The 6-foot free agent has been rookie of the year, the 2001 league MVP and a four-time scoring champ with a career average of 27.1. Philadelphia made him the top pick in the 1996 NBA draft, and he spent the bulk of his career with the 76ers before being traded to Denver in 2006 and then to Detroit last November.
Whether Iverson’s presence translates into more wins for the Grizzlies is unknown, but the excitement at Thursday’s introduction could be an indication his impact could have the box office. The team store already had jerseys with Iverson’s No. 3 hanging on the wall ready for sale.
Iverson ranks second among active players in career scoring behind Shaquille O’Neal and is 16th all-time with 23,983 points in 886 games with Philadelphia, Denver and Detroit.
Iverson will open the season against his most recent team. The Pistons visit Memphis on Oct. 28.
The Grizzlies’ courting of Iverson lasted much of the summer. Other teams including New York, Charlotte, Miami and the Clippers inquired about Iverson, but Memphis appeared to be the only one to make a solid offer to the veteran guard.
Questions still remain about where Iverson fits in the Grizzlies’ plans.
O.J. Mayo, who finished second to Chicago’s Derrick Rose in Rookie of the Year voting last season, starts at shooting guard. Memphis seems committed to Mike Conley at the point. There’s little doubt Iverson’s scoring talents should help a team which averaged only 93.9 points a game last season, next to last in the league.
Grizzlies officials spent the summer talking of their need for scoring help off the bench.
But Iverson said in April he would rather retire than come off the bench. He missed 16 games last season with a bad back. When he returned, he was coming off the bench, an arrangement Iverson did not like. He complained about minutes and how he couldn’t be effective in that role.
Haha, if he didn't have such a big ego last season, perhaps he would've been on a better team with a better contract. I'm sure the Iverson-Zbo one two punch will go great
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