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    thanks

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    His shot-blocking is really uncanny for a guy of his build. He's just a really unique package of size, skill, and instincts that I've never really seen before; sneaky athletic..

    Malik 'The Sneak' Hairston?
    Sneaky athletic, good description of Hairston.

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    I just read my previous post ...

    as a warning



    Damn i will never be able to write without those y typos and then again grammar

    I'm out

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    Bowen was such a lithe defender and could apply pressure no matter what. Jefferson can't play that style of defense because he's not nearly as quick and his body is a lot bigger. He'll need to use his strength and length more -- kinda like a hybrid between Elliott and Elie.

    He's giving the effort so hopefully we see results. But it will be the regular season before we really figure out if RJ can be anything resembling a defensive stopper.
    That's a very apt comparison. Very appropriate for him.

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    I think we are going to be disappointed with our defense this year. People seem to expect us to get lights out better, old school duncan style defense just because of RJ and a very old Diceman.
    Expect improvement, but I still see us just looking in from outside top 5 of FG% at the very best. Hopefully I am totally wrong.

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    do you guys find it funny how phil jackson is playing his starting five like its a regular season game? why would you push gasol after all that? what an idiot!!!!!

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    Calling 10-rings-coach an idiot is weak at best

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    9 Points/2 rebounds/2 steals/5-6 from the line in 11 minutes for the 37th pick in the draft. Beasty.
    But... but... she used a double negative (sorry if you're a dude poland)!!! I don't understandddddddddddddddd

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    I know I asked a lot of questions, but if you could answer them all that would be fantastic. Since you went to the game, your insight is even more valuable than usual. Without further ado, here are my first two questions:
    1) Considering the compliments, from Manu and Theo's D, to Hill, Hairston, Finley, Mase, TD, TP, and maybe some others looking good, as well as Ian not fouling out while looking decent, could it be they looked so sweet on account of the opposition? I mean GOD DAMN, the Big Four only had to combine for 33 points, 13 assists, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, and 2 blocks, and it was a blowout. Timmy did better in the last Finals game of 03.
    2) Why the was the game recorded, but only to be used for some highlights? Spursdotcom needs to put that online like he did the scrimmage. I'll PM him to see if that is possible.

    -Tim Duncan was out of rhythm. He still needs to work his way into game shape and sharpen his reactions. That said, he was still pretty darn good. I especially liked his passing from the high post and his activity on defense. There is a lot of talk about his bulky knee brace but it didn't appear to be hindering him too much. For now, I don't think it's something to worry about.
    Why is the brace on the knee that didn't get tendinosis? That seems like a bad sign, hope I'm wrong.
    -Manu Ginobili was back to his bench role and while he is still shaking off the rust, he's already making his teammates better. He led the Spurs with five assists and his defense is at a surprisingly high level right now. His explosiveness was a bit lacking but he seems to be moving well. An interesting note is that Pop had Ginobili defend the point guard when he was paired with Hill. That may be a look we see often this season.
    Indeed. I bet Mason's slam was more passionate, than his "dunk" (the quotes indicate my disbelief that he actually dunked, besides fitting the definition). Mason performing better on a breakaway dunk is quite depressing.
    -Tony Parker continues to look like he's in regular season form. His quickness is near 100% -- which had the Greek defenders staring at the back of his jersey whenever he drove to the basket. I also thought that his jumper looked better. He's holding his follow-through and his stroke from off the dribble was effortless. Hopefully Parker can take these improvements into the regular season.
    How was his defense?
    -When watching Richard Jefferson, you can tell that almost his entire focus is on the defensive end. He's really giving good effort to be a strong defender. Jefferson isn't exceptionally swift on his feet so sometimes he is getting caught out of position when he applies too much pressure. However, with time and understanding of the help defense, I'm confident he'll figure it out. On offense, he's not forcing anything. He's getting a number of touches and he's involved in the action so once he wants to rev it up, he'll be able to shoulder a healthy chunk of the offensive load.
    I'm SO GLAD RJ gets that with the Big 3, he should primarily be a defender. But with the way Tim was actively trying to get him involved in the scrimmage, and the fact he'll be starting with TP, as well most likely playing a good bit with Manu, his points should be much easier to come by.
    -I was much more impressed with George Hill this time around. When he's attacking the rim and getting to the line, he's a valuable asset. Pop and the coaching staff have given him a lot of offensive responsibility and as long as Hill remains confident and aggressive, he'll be able to handle the backup point guard duties. Defensively, I really liked what I saw from Hill. He defended multiple positions and hit the defensive glass with authority.
    You think his D looked good because he guarded a mediocre Euro club? Or did he do a good job on some of the players you mentioned were NBA level, like Wafer or Childress? And was he good at getting everyone involved?
    -The thing that stood out from Antonio McDyess' first preseason game was his passing. I'm not sure if it was a fluke or a preview but he made a couple of great passes. He also did a good job on the glass and his post defense was solid. When he catches the ball with his back to the basket, he looks unsure of what he's supposed to do. He also had some trouble defending out on the perimeter. But once McDyess gets in better shape and learns the sets, he should be fine.
    As of right now, what do you think the odds are that he starts more games the 09 part of this season than Bonner? I'd say 85%, accounting for Pop's blind love of Horry.
    -Matt Bonner was once again in the starting lineup. This time, his shots weren't as automatic. He missed a few open shots and hesitated on a few others. I also didn't like his defense -- or the fact that he didn't pull down a defensive rebound during his time on the court. You have to believe that McDyess will eventually become the starter and Bonner will be moved to a specialist role off the bench at some point. Right?
    I believe... kinda.
    -Keith Bogans started at shooting guard and we finally were able to get a better read at what he can do. Defensively, he pressured well and used his strength to keep his opponent from their preferred spots. He's susceptible to speed and he has a lot to learn in terms of the team defense principles, but he looked like he belonged tonight. Although, given the depth at the wing positions, I fail to see how he'll get consistent minutes unless he beats out Finley.
    Do you think he deserves minutes over Fin if the season started tomo?
    -Speaking of Michael Finley, he looked good once again. He's getting good lift on his jumpers and his legs look lively in general. Since this squad doesn't have as much depth as usual when it comes to shooters, a Finley who can hit for a high percentage from off the bench would be beneficial.
    Not a question, I just hope Fin plays 10-15 minutes over the season so he can be just as lively when the playoffs come. With Hairston (maybe), Haislip, Jefferson, Ginobili, Hill, Bogans, and Mase all competing for the SG/SF minutes, he could easily end up the 13-15 man dozens of games. And yes, I know I'm dreaming. Someone must find out what Fin has over Pop!!!
    -Roger Mason, Jr. didn't play in the first half and played most of his minutes in the fourth quarter. After a couple of early miscues, Mason got rolling and was the best player on the court down the stretch. When Olympiacos made a run in the second half, it was Mason who muted the threat. His quickness on both ends remains a notable improvement from last season.
    Did he play any PG? And was Fin's improvement after he got in better shape last offseason as noticeable? I can't remember exactly, but I don't think you seemed to mention it much in your game thoughts.
    -Perhaps the most exciting aspect of the game was the play from Theo Ratliff. He was extremely active on the defensive end. He's fearless at going after blocks and his instincts are legendary. If he can stay healthy (and with Ratliff, that is a very big IF), Ratliff could really help Duncan protect the rim.
    How many altered shots do you think he had? And wth does he look so young? Maybe it's because he hasn't played a lot in his last few seasons since he's been injured so much. Even Fin looks older, and he is 4 years younger, iirc.
    -After DeJuan Blair's memorable debut, Pop made him an afterthought in his second preseason game. Blair didn't play in the first half and only got 11 minutes total. I'm not sure if this is a sign that Pop will take it slow with Blair or if Pop was just looking at other bigs for the night. While Blair obviously didn't have as dominant of a performance, I again liked what I saw. On defense, he has work to do but he's active -- especially on his post defense. On offense, he has good hands and drew fouls thanks to his physicality. He might need to turn down his offensive aggressiveness a notch to placate Pop, but personally I don't mind a bigman other than Duncan who tries to score on the block.
    Why did he get so few boards? Did Sofo, Ioannis, or any of the other Olympiacos just keep him away?
    -In the first preseason game, Marcus Haislip tried to do too much. In his second game, Haislip didn't do much of anything. He rebounded better and made a few good passes but he doesn't look very comfortable at all right now. He's a face-up power forward who may be able to spread the court and that alone should keep his roster spot safe. However, if he wants to have a shot of regular season minutes, he needs to start illustrating how he can help.
    Was he better on D than against the Rockets?
    -Malik Hairston was very active in his 13 minutes. Defensively, he was good. For his size, he's a really good shotblocker -- both on his own man and in help situations. He can sometimes be slow to rotate but he's improving in that area. Overall, he helped his cause tonight.
    If he only ends up shooting 3-8% worse on 3s than Fin, while doing better in every other aspect of the game, will Pop allow him to leapfrog Fin on the depth chart?
    -Marcus Williams only played nine minutes but that was long enough for him to pick up three assists on a trio of slick passes. For a player of his size, he's an above average ballhandler and passer. The problem is that the rest of his attributes don't really translate to the NBA.
    Considering you said he has slow feet last gt, does that mean he would get killed by most NBA point guards/shooting guards?
    -Thanks to Williams, Ian Mahinmi had a strong eight minutes. Williams fed him and Mahinmi was happy to finish around the rim. His defense and rebounding also looked decent. It wasn't much of a run but Mahinmi took a small step in the right direction.
    Glad he looked good, hope Pop has him and Blair avg 20 minutes for the next five games, I don't see the point of them not getting the chance for at least 15 (if they foul out it's their fault) in any game. I know Pop wants to see all of the bigs, but the 5 new bigs should get well over ten minutes every game to learn the system and get chem with everyone but Bonner and Tim. 15x5=75, Bonner and Tim can make due with 21, with Matt getting only 7 minutes of action, since I bet he's closer to game shape than Tim. Plus, he didn't have to heal from anything besides letting down the team in the playoffs... but he has to be used to that feeling by now.
    -Apparently, the Ioannis Bourousis talk we heard in the offseason had some legs. Pop admitted to really liking him and Bourousis talked about possibly coming to the Spurs in the future. I was somewhat impressed from what I saw from Bourousis. For a guy who is so huge (6-foot-11, 280 pounds), his perimeter skills are advanced -- especially his outside shooting. I didn't expect him to have such an effortless release from NBA three-point range. That said, I'm not convinced about his mobility or stamina. His lateral movement is lacking and he was getting tired after just a few minutes of action. He's obviously talented but it's difficult to picture how he'd translate to the NBA. Bourousis reminds me a bit of Mehmet Okur but bigger and not as fluid.
    Is 4 boards in 18:20 good? And did his D, O, or bb-IQ looks above NBA avg? Also, I hope he wasn't in perfect shape, or the flight messed with him, and his apparent lack of stamina wasn't exactly that. If anyone who actually follows him or his team could enlighten me on Bourousis' motor, I would greatly appreciate it.

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    They've owned his rights for years. I'm not sure why but Sofo has never come over.
    Yeah, who wouldn't be excited about uprooting to come play for the Clippers?

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    I wouldn't worry much about foul trouble. As far as his defense, it's tough to say how good he'll end up being.

    Bowen was such a lithe defender and could apply pressure no matter what. Jefferson can't play that style of defense because he's not nearly as quick and his body is a lot bigger. He'll need to use his strength and length more -- kinda like a hybrid between Elliott and Elie.

    He's giving the effort so hopefully we see results. But it will be the regular season before we really figure out if RJ can be anything resembling a defensive stopper.
    Bruce's brilliance was in his lateral quickness, ball-denial, intellect, length, and his ability to take away the opponents comfort zone by eliminating space. He knew all the tricks and made sure to show his hands as much as possible, thus he was able to stay out of foul trouble.

    It's hard to say he was a finesses defender, just because of who he was, but he did what he did without ever having to overly impose his physicality. He was an irritant and a nuisance; much like one of those kids from back in the day that would get up real close to you and proclaim that they weren't touching you. -- Good thing NBA players aren't allowed to use the same tactics I chose to use in remedying that particular scenario. --

    With RJ, the only thing I can really see that he and Bowen have in common is their height; Bowen's length is actually superior, though.

    At this stage of his career, RJ seems somewhat like a 6-7 Udoka with better foot-speed defensively. A more physical-type defender that's not as effective when he can't use his body or play in closer quarters; which is why I worry about foul-trouble, or the threat of, preventing RJ from either staying on the court or being able to play the consistent, aggressive brand of defense he'll need to.

    The Spurs don't need him to be Bowen for them to be successful, but they do need him to be better than average considering the wings they'll need him to guard come playoff time.

    Ratliff looks good. He's running well and his springs are functioning.

    But, unfortunately, it'll probably be all downhill from here. Injury prone bigs like Ratliff usually start the season strong and then from there you just have to hope he's upright for the playoffs. It'll be interesting to see what type of role Pop gives him. If Pop is really valuing defense, Ratliff could see 10-15 minutes a game considering he's likely the second best defensive big on the team.
    That's good to hear.

    The fact that he doesn't look old and the springs are still there, gives hope that a limited role could net the Spurs a bigger contributor than most first thought; in short stretches and at opportune times.

    Had he looked stiff and old already, that hope and possibility of him coming up big in a moment or two come playoff time would have been completely out the window.

    Tough to say since they are such different players. Bogans is a very fundamental defender who establishes position extremely early on the defensive end. On offense, he can't do much else other than catch and shoot. Hairston lacks some defensive fundamentals but he's a much better athlete and he takes a lot more gambles. Offensively, he can score on the move, finish at the rim and hit the open jumper. His catch and shoot game is a little questionable if he isn't wide open.

    Right this second, I'd say Bogans is slightly better because he's a low-mistake type player that Pop likes who fits well into a specific role. His ability to catch and shoot would make it easy for him to be the fifth option on the court. Hairston is still a bit untamed for being a role player and he doesn't yet provide much spacing on the offensive end. That said, there's no question Hairston has the higher upside.
    It's really the conventional versus the unconventional, imo.

    Bogans is pretty much the Spurs' modus operandi; low-cost, low-risk vet, with little to no ceiling, but won't get you beat. He's got a specific skill set that fits the mold of both the offense and defense for the Spurs.

    Hairston, while just as capable as Bogans across the board, I'd argue, brings an unknown that Pop usually tries to eliminate.

    Malik can be an X-factor on either or both ends of the court on a given night. He's athletically more gifted, has more tools, and I'd argue the better player.

    But Hairston is also a young player.

    He's yet to establish himself in the league, he hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt yet, and his inexperience might cost you at some point. His offensive game, even if more versatile, isn't as established or capable of being relied upon as Bogans' is, and you just don't exactly know what you're going to get on a nightly basis.

    Malik's my boy and if it were up to me, there'd be no question.

    But if history's any guide, it's a pretty safe bet that Bogans is the better fit; I wouldn't say the better player, however.


    Bogans got his chance playing with the first unit this game. I hope Hairston gets a similar chance. If he can show off a polished game, it'd be difficult for the Spurs to let him walk considering the impressive tools he has.
    +1

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    Why is the brace on the knee that didn't get tendinosis? That seems like a bad sign, hope I'm wrong.
    His left knee has been chronic for years, it's the knee he had surgery on in 2000. He sleeved it on and off, then last season wore a brace on it several times after the All-Star break. I'm not surprised that it now needs help for the entire season.

    Not having a brace on his right knee, the one with tendonosis, tells me it doesn't need one. At least not at the moment.

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    Yeah, who wouldn't be excited about uprooting to come play for the Clippers?
    Hey, it's in LA so it's a big market and big city. Plus, if the guy really wanted to come over he could let it be known that the Clippers needed to trade him for it to happen. But I've never heard anything of him having any interest of coming over.

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    Bonner won't start in the regular season. Pop is probably just playing him there to keep Dyce's min low and help him ease along into learning the sets and getting comfortable.
    I hope you're right. Bonner could play a very good role this season though, coming off the bench and nailing down open threes.

    I also hope there will be streams for tonights' game against the Heat as it starts comparatively early over here in Europe.

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    His left knee has been chronic for years, it's the knee he had surgery on in 2000. He sleeved it on and off, then last season wore a brace on it several times after the All-Star break. I'm not surprised that it now needs help for the entire season.

    Not having a brace on his right knee, the one with tendonosis, tells me it doesn't need one. At least not at the moment.
    Just Sad.

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    I hope you're right. Bonner could play a very good role this season though, coming off the bench and nailing down open threes.

    I also hope there will be streams for tonights' game against the Heat as it starts comparatively early over here in Europe.
    I'm actually kind of excited to see what Bonner can bring to this team in such a role. 15 MPG off the bench is a nice place for him. The dude can absolutely stroke it and excels when he has less pressure put on him. As a reserve off the bench that comes in strictly as a scoring punch I think he'll be pretty solid.

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    Honestly, I really don't understand the Bogans signing, unless its for insurance only.

    Hairston has done everything right a young player can possibly do to earn a decent shot. He's ready to contribute IMO, and should be given that chance to prove his worth this year. I hope Bogans was brought in as an insurance policy but knowing Popovich he is going to go with the experienced player rather than take a chance on Hairston. Which may prove to be a costly mistake.

    Hairston is a young home grown player that has been with the spurs for a couple years and has learned the system, been patient and done everything right and has shown potential to help win some games this year. He's primed to contribute and should be given that opportunity first, before some journeyman scrub last minute signing who IMO is barely on the same level as the guy they canned (Udoka).

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    I think after this game, we should start Bonner. Hear me out, Bonner is going to play for 3-4 minutes, get subbed out, the same for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarter, spreading the floor and playing decent enough defense and get the offense flowing. Some of you might be against the idea but I would personally like to Ginobili out there with McDyess for an improved offensive punch.

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    I think after this game, we should start Bonner. Hear me out, Bonner is going to play for 3-4 minutes, get subbed out, the same for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarter, spreading the floor and playing decent enough defense and get the offense flowing. Some of you might be against the idea but I would personally like to Ginobili out there with McDyess for an improved offensive punch.
    Been there done that already. Why try the same experiment that was tried last year that proved to be a mistake? Bonner is hardly a decent defender, he's mostly a liability, and this is justification enough that he shouldn't start.

    I guess I need to point out yet again what's been hashed repeatedly before - and that is the FACT that Duncan needs some help with rebounding and rim defense, much more than Bonner can provide. If you pair up Bonner with Tim, this is just putting more pressure on Tim to do it all and increasing risk of injury.

    McDyess is a much better balance of offense and defense than Bonner and should be starting and watching Tim's back. This is going to take pressure off Tim and that can only be a great thing.

    The spurs opened the purse strings in a big way to get Richard Jefferson over here, why not let him "get the offense flowing" as you say.

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    The way I see it so far.

    Starters - Duncan, McDyess, Jefferson, RMJ, Parker.

    This sets the defensive tone for the game at a high level. Also allows Parker, Mason, and Jefferson to all 3 get involved in the offense which I think is important to do early. With Bonner cranking 3's every time he's open these guys may not get the opportunity to get their offense going, which IMO is more important than Bonner hitting a few shots early on to spread the floor.

    Bonner and Blair should be our main frontcourt bench players, and I think compliment each other's games actually. Ratliff should see some time too depending on what he's got left in the tank and how he performs. Mahinmi and Haislip should be occasional fill-ins and fairly limited.

    Hill, Manu, Finley, Blair, and Bonner should be our main backups to the starters. Hairston should get some quality minutes too, and Bogans should basically be the new Udoka, and be the ocassional fill-in scrub.

    This is how I see the puzzle pieces fitting anyway.

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    For all those that says lies about Greek attendance........

    today was 20,000 attendance at OAKA for PAO and CSKA game:

    I repeat 20,000.
















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    1) Considering the compliments, from Manu and Theo's D, to Hill, Hairston, Finley, Mase, TD, TP, and maybe some others looking good, as well as Ian not fouling out while looking decent, could it be they looked so sweet on account of the opposition? I mean GOD DAMN, the Big Four only had to combine for 33 points, 13 assists, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, and 2 blocks, and it was a blowout. Timmy did better in the last Finals game of 03.
    Score doesn't matter in preseason. It's mostly about individual performances. But yeah, whenever you play a Greek team, it's just a matter of how much you beat them.



    Why is the brace on the knee that didn't get tendinosis?
    Duncan's left knee is the one that has bothered him since 2000. When he had the surgery, the doctors said it is something that will bother him in the final stages of his career. Here we are.

    How was his defense?
    I don't think TP has ever played defense in preseason.

    You think his D looked good because he guarded a mediocre Euro club? Or did he do a good job on some of the players you mentioned were NBA level, like Wafer or Childress? And was he good at getting everyone involved?
    Hill spent some time on Wafer and a couple of possessions on Childress -- and did a good job. He's playmaking was much better than the first game.

    As of right now, what do you think the odds are that he starts more games the 09 part of this season than Bonner? I'd say 85%, accounting for Pop's blind love of Horry.
    That's probably about right.

    Do you think he deserves minutes over Fin if the season started tomo?
    No, Bogans will need to do more to bump Finley out of the rotation.

    Did he play any PG? And was Fin's improvement after he got in better shape last offseason as noticeable? I can't remember exactly, but I don't think you seemed to mention it much in your game thoughts.
    Pop hasn't put Mason at point guard yet in the preseason, however Mason is handling the ball a lot in the halfcourt sets.

    Finley's defense was better early last year but he started reverting back to regular Finley as the season wore on.

    If he only ends up shooting 3-8% worse on 3s than Fin, while doing better in every other aspect of the game, will Pop allow him to leapfrog Fin on the depth chart?
    Hairston would have to play pretty darn well to break the rotation. He'd have to jump Finley, Bogans and then he may still only be the fifth swingman if Hill is playing any shooting guard.

    Considering you said he has slow feet last gt, does that mean he would get killed by most NBA point guards/shooting guards?
    Williams is pretty good at using his length on defense but yeah, I can't imagine him defending point guards. He may be able to defend the slower shooting guards.

    Is 4 boards in 18:20 good? And did his D, O, or bb-IQ looks above NBA avg? Also, I hope he wasn't in perfect shape, or the flight messed with him, and his apparent lack of stamina wasn't exactly that. If anyone who actually follows him or his team could enlighten me on Bourousis' motor, I would greatly appreciate it.
    That rebounding is decent -- nothing special. A little low for a center. His attributes individually mostly look to be NBA level. However, it's difficult to say for sure because there aren't many 280-pound centers with huge wingspans that play out on the perimeter and rely on skill. He looks like he could cut it in the NBA but I think his real value to the Spurs would have been his outside shooting to spread the floor for Duncan. If he's thinking about coming over in two years, it may be too late and the Spurs may not be as inside-out as they are today.

    As for his stamina, Bourousis has always been a low-minute player. IIRC, he led Europe in PER but was only about to play ~20 MPG.

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    It was good to be back at the AT&T Center after the way last season ended. It was even better to see the Big 3 play together again and the Other 15 healthy and trying to fit into the team concept. And while Olympiacos isn't an NBA team, they do have about a half dozen players who are good enough to be in the league. All things considered, it was successful night at the office for the Spurs.

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    -Tony Parker continues to look like he's in regular season form. His quickness is near 100%
    Which concerns me. Will Parker fade come playoff time? He's not getting younger. Damn, too bad France didn't lose.

    So when will his boss, the Spurs FO, who pays him a nice salary, tell him "no more off season playing compe ive basketball". Maybe the next contract talks.

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    Which concerns me. Will Parker fade come playoff time? He's not getting younger. Damn, too bad France didn't lose.

    So when will his boss, the Spurs FO, who pays him a nice salary, tell him "no more off season playing compe ive basketball". Maybe the next contract talks.
    CaptainLate... indeed.

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