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    Bruce Bowen was asked on the hot list where does Kobe rank among the all-time greats. He said Kobe was top 5 and then said Jordan was #1 and Kobe was #2. Pretty high praise considering Kobe still has several high quality years left.

    Very interesting considering Bowen was a teammate of Timmy Duncan

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    i agree.
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    He spent the majority of his career having to physically guard Kobe. If anyone knows and respects what Kobe does, it's Bruce. That being said, I don't see how anyone can justify putting Kobe in the #2 all-time spot.
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    Makes decent sense. Most people are reluctant to put a person who isnt retired that high but when he retires in 6-8 years he'll probably be the concensus #2.

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    Bowen is biased because he had to play with kobe

    There's no way in hell kobe is #2

    Wilt and MJ are above, and you got a lot of other guys you can make an argument for.

    He's not even top 10.

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    Makes decent sense. Most people are reluctant to put a person who isnt retired that high but when he retires in 6-8 years he'll probably be the concensus #2.
    Wilt?

    Bird?

    Magic?

    Kareem?

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    Bowen is biased because he had to play with kobe

    There's no way in hell kobe is #2

    Wilt and MJ are above, and you got a lot of other guys you can make an argument for.

    He's not even top 10.
    MiamiHeat GTFO. What is your obsession with a player that you hate,get a life. No1 cares about your imput cause ur so far up dwyane wade's ass it's not funny. I like d-wade and think he's a great player,and u dont see me trashing him on every thread

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    MiamiHeat GTFO. What is your obsession with a player that you hate,get a life. No1 cares about your imput cause ur so far up dwyane wade's ass it's not funny. I like d-wade and think he's a great player,and u dont see me trashing him on every thread
    I upset a member of kobe's congregation

    face reality, noobsauce.

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    Kobe is top 10 or 15, not #2.
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    If I had to pick a personal favorite all-time great, it's Larry Bird. Then Kobe.
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    MiamiHeat GTFO. What is your obsession with a player that you hate,get a life. No1 cares about your imput cause ur so far up dwyane wade's ass it's not funny. I like d-wade and think he's a great player,and u dont see me trashing him on every thread


    who the fuck is this?

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    Bill Russell?????? I swear everyone forgets him even though you could make a legit argument that he was greater than Jordan. (I don't believe that but a case could be made.)

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    Old Bowen ain't gonna abide the old Spurs Line, I see. jejejeje!!!

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    Bill Russell?????? I swear everyone forgets him even though you could make a legit argument that he was greater than Jordan. (I don't believe that but a case could be made.)
    No one looks at the defensive end of the ball.

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    I think it's a little premature to put Kobe in the top 5 of all time. Jordan didn't get his first ring until he was 29, Kobe is 30-31 and already has 4. Let's see what he does over the next 4-5 years.

    IMHO, if he can get 2-3 more championships this question won't even need to be asked.
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    Bowen is biased because he had to play with kobe

    There's no way in hell kobe is #2

    Wilt and MJ are above, and you got a lot of other guys you can make an argument for.

    He's not even top 10.
    top 12 before kobe even egts into consideration

    michael jordan
    kareem abdul jabbar
    wilt
    magic johnson
    larry bird
    moses malone
    hakeem olajuwon
    tim duncan
    shaquille o 'neal
    garnett
    jerry west
    oscar robertson

    I upset a member of kobe's congregation

    face reality, noobsauce.
    + rep if i could, nice one


    who the fuck is this?
    he had sex with your momma last night? that's who he is
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    #2 All time shooting guard would be more accurate...
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    Good to see an old salt like Bowen shovin' it the Big Fundamental. WOOT!

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    How can he he knock Bird out the top 5 when Bird is better than Magic?
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    top 12 before kobe even egts into consideration

    michael jordan
    kareem abdul jabbar
    wilt
    magic johnson
    larry bird
    moses malone
    hakeem olajuwon
    tim duncan
    shaquille o 'neal
    garnett
    jerry west
    oscar robertson



    + rep if i could, nice one

    he had sex with your momma last night? that's who he is

    Zing!

    The list is solid...but i have a hard time putting Garnett above O and the Logo.

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    negative. Bird was a much better player.

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    Good to see an old salt like Bowen shovin' it the Big Fundamental. WOOT!
    Bruce has got to be drinkin' that ESPN Koolade or however the fuck you spell it. Sean Elliott would have none of that shit.

    No way is Kobe better than Tim let alone second of all time.

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    I think y'all have misunderstood Bowen; you're thinking accomplishments while Bruce is talking from a pure "Great Player" standpoint.

    Bowen knows Kobe playing against him all those years.

    Kobe could very well be the 2nd greatest player right now; not in accomplishments but as a player...and who would know better than the man charged to battle him?

    And if Bruce is right, in 5 years Kobe will be recognized as one of the all time Greats for his team accomplishments as well.
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    I think y'all have misunderstood Bowen; you're thinking accomplishments while Bruce is talking from a pure "Great Player" standpoint.

    Bowen knows Kobe playing against him all those years.

    Kobe could very well be the 2nd greatest player right now; not in accomplishments but as a player...and who would know better than the man charged to battle him?

    And if Bruce is right, in 5 years Kobe will be recognized for his team accomplishments as well.
    meh

    There's no reason to argue over semantics here...but as far as face-value is concerned, Bowen said "second greatest player if all-time."

    And on the list of "all-time greatest players"....

    Kobe isn't 2nd.

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    Most talented??? Maybe.

    But that's not what he said.

    And even still, i done see how Kobe is more talented than Wilt.

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    meh

    There's no reason to argue over semantics here...but as far as face-value is concerned, Bowen said "second greatest player if all-time."

    And on the list of "all-time greatest players"....

    Kobe isn't 2nd.
    We don't really know how great of a player Kobe is because none of us have ever played against him.

    Just like when Jordan won his 3rd ring, nobody knew he was the GOAT. But his competitors probably had a good idea. Jordan was the GOAT the first day he played basketball, we just didn't know it.

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    We don't really know how great of a player Kobe is because none of us have ever played against him.
    Oh, stop it.

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    It's the truth. Nobody knows. Bruce could very well be correct and he could be wrong. He probably knows more than we do.

    Jordan was always the GOAT, we didn't know until after the fact; but guys who played against him probably knew years before we did.

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    Just respect Bowen's opinion.

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    We don't really know how great of a player Kobe is because none of us have ever played against him.

    Just like when Jordan won his 3rd ring, nobody knew he was the GOAT. But his competitors probably had a good idea. Jordan was the GOAT the first day he played basketball, we just didn't know it.
    None of us played against MJ and we know he's the GOAT.
    Furthermore, Kobe would need to drop Gasol, keep Artest and a bunch of role players THEN win 6 rings to just get into the GOAT conversation.
    I don't know about you, but I don't think it's happening...

    That said, I don't need to play against Kobe to know he's going to retire as one of the best of all times...

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