It's like Mavfan starting a CROFL Spurs thread:
Spurfan brings up "4 rings faggot" or they can go with "Warrirors, 1st round" or empty trophy cases, or etc, etc.
Anytime you, as a Cavfan, criticizes Kobe, this opens the door to criticize LeBron. If you criticize the Lakers, I can criticize the Cavs.
This is the natural order of things.
Last edited by Allanon; 01-20-2010 at 07:39 PM._____________________________
WTF, why is this thread pinned?
To keep all the Kobe/Laker trolls in one place?
doesnt mean that any of those are logical ways to respond, because all of those responses are lame as fuck, just like its lame as fuck for a laker fan to diss lebron just because a cavs fan pointed out something that he feels may be a weakness of kobe (without ever comparing him to lebron)
Phil Jackson gave Kome "Montana, 1948" per Jeannie buss on her twitter.
I did a search on wiki and this came up
When David's family's Native American housekeeper Marie falls ill, Frank Hayden, the local doctor and David's uncle, is called. When Marie refuses medical treatment, David's parents, Wes, the local sheriff, and Gail discover that Frank has been preying on the local native American women, raping and molesting them. Wes confronts Frank at a dinner at their father's house. Wes and Gail reach a compromise. When Marie is found dead, Frank convinces the family it is pneumonia which has killed her. Not until later that day does David admit to his parents that he saw his uncle exit their house at approximately the time of Marie's death. Wes goes to work investigating this and eventually arrests his own brother and holds him captive in the Haydens' basement to avoid the embarrassment Frank would experience by going to the local jail. Eventually this all gets too much for Gail and she wishes for Frank to be released out of her home. When Wes talks to his brother, Frank doesn't deny killing Marie and molesting numerous other Indian women. Wes' moral values override his family loyalty and he is obliged to take his brother to be locked up in the local jail the next day. Later that night the family wake to the sound of jars smashing in the basement. In the morning Wes finds that Frank has committed suicide by slitting his wrists with the glass. The family's problems are essentially solved, letting the rest of the town believe Frank died by accident. Soon after, the family moves out of Montana, as the secrets they kept become too much to bear.
Montana 1948 is referenced in the song "Make Way" by Birdman featuring Fat Joe and Lil Wayne in the line "We gotta party everyday like Frank came home."
I mean WOW... . Phil is giving Kobe a book about a character that involves raping and molesting women!!!
This is Jeannie's twitter for proof
Kobe Bryant takes a pass on slam dunk contest
By Tom Withers
Kobe Bryant is taking a pass on the slam dunk contest, no matter what Shaquille O’Neal has in mind.
Bryant nearly burst out laughing Thursday when asked about O’Neal’s idea that the Lakers superstar should appear in next month’s All-Star weekend dunk event with LeBron James and Vince Carter.
O’Neal suggested the star-studded field as a way of luring James, who is skipping the dunkathon after initially saying he was in.
Bryant won the dunking crown when he was a rookie. He says players should not feel a responsibility toward entering the contest as a way of giving back to the league. James has been criticized for backing out. Bryant would like to see the MVP take part.
“Responsibility? No,” Bryant said following the Lakers’ shootaround. “People want to see it, so it’s good to do it at least one time in your career. It’s fun.”
The contest is Feb. 13 in Dallas, and Bryant has been giving tips to Los Angeles teammate Shannon Brown. Does Bryant think James would win?
“I think he would come in a close second behind Shannon Brown,” he said.
Cavs, teammates put Kobe in grumpy mood
By Adrian Wojnarowski
They are pals only in sneaker commercial puppet ads, so Kobe Bryant had no use for one of those congratulatory star-to-star half-hug mid-court meetings. The game was over, he was gone. As LeBron James preened to a screaming, celebratory sellout, Bryant turned his back, marched through the tunnel seething, scowling and promising hell to pay for the Los Angeles Lakers. These were old times for Bryant: Angry, sullen and promising pure misery.
”They know I’m pissed off,” Bryant sniffed in the losing locker room. ”I don’t need to say anything right now.”
Only Bryant did, and he will again and again. Bryant is never happier than when he’s miserable, than when he has a boogeyman threatening the championship fabric of this burgeoning dynasty.
All around him, Bryant has reasons to be livid Thursday night: Pau Gasol missed two free throws in the final seconds. The frontline had been outmuscled everywhere. James toyed with Ron Artest for his 37 points, owning this night on a yo-yo. Phil Jackson left Bryant on the bench for all but five minutes of the fourth quarter, the coach refusing to treat these Cavs as anything more than another back-to-back when Bryant’s body needed to be protected for the long run.
All angered Bryant, and all promises to make for a most unpleasant Kobe over the next seven games of this trip.
Nevertheless, he should’ve delivered some self-loathe for his part in a 93-87 loss to the Cavaliers. He tried too hard Thursday night – needing 31 shots for his 31 points. No, Bryant didn’t want to lose that season series to the Cavaliers, but there was something bigger happening here and assuredly it wasn’t lost on Kobe Bryant. However flimsy the possibility, Bryant lost his chance to be the MVP again.
When everyone dissects these two candidacies come April, it will keep coming back to this: LeBron swept the Lakers and Kobe, beat them in Staples Center on Christmas and again with Mo Williams out for a month with a shoulder injury. Once more, James will be praised for doing more with less, and Bryant will be partially penalized in the MVP voting for something that Magic Johnson and Larry Bird never were in the 1980s: Playing with too much talent.
With LeBron’s second straight MVP close to secured, Bryant must return his mind to what’s still most available to him: Another NBA Finals MVP.
Nevertheless, the Lakers had no excuse for letting this one slip away and there were so many reasons, so many levels, that this enraged Bryant. There’s James, whom Bryant doesn’t believe has passed him as the game’s best player. There’s Shaquille O’Neal, whom Bryant doesn’t want to see beat him to a fifth NBA title. Beyond the extraordinary greatness of James, the Cavs’ toughness and tenacity are troublesome for the Lakers.
Anderson Varejao gets every loose ball and rebound, and Shaq allows the Cavs to defend the Andrew Bynums and Dwight Howards of the league without double teams. The Lakers’ title defense has been nice and easy so far, lots of home games, but now losing against to the Cavs delivers Bryant a theme of complacency to hold over them. The physicality of Cleveland and Boston still frightens him. Truth be told, Artest has done little to change the finesse culture of these Lakers.
”The mentality has to change,” Bryant said. ”These are physical, tough-minded and hard-nosed teams types of teams and we have to make some decisions … That’s not part of our DNA.”
Bryant played a familiar old card when asked about the solution for the complacency that he believes contributed to this combustion. ”I’ll go into practice and strangle every single one of them.”
Translated: He’s going to be a bastard again. He talked of tough physical practice, of a vigilance that a defending champ must keep with all comers. Once, Bryant could drive these Lakers hard because he believed they were soft, accommodating and too reliant on talent over tenacity.
”Last year, we were probably a little hungrier and played a little harder,” Bryant grumbled. ”This year, they were the hungrier team. They want to win a championship and want to go after it, so they’re playing with a sense of urgency that we played with last year. … Denver steamrolled us with their physical play. Cleveland on Christmas Day … ”
He wanted to keep going, and assuredly he would with his teammates on the way to New York. Jackson had dismissed the Cavaliers as legitimate rivals, even refused to treat this game as vital with his decision to keep Bryant out longer in the fourth than the Cavaliers did with James. When James hit a three-pointer with five and a half minutes left to push the Cavs out, 83-80, you could see Bryant barking down the bench to Jackson. The coach ignored him, and waited until they had lost the lead for good.
For Jackson, the Cavaliers have won nothing to ever be considered a peer. Yet, there’s a different dynamic for Bryant. He scored his 25,000th career point on Thursday night, earned his 12th career All-Star game and still LeBron James keeps coming and coming for him. He took the MVP a year ago, and more and more people insist that he’s become the greatest player in the game. Yet Bryant still has those four championships, has Michael Jordan’s six within his sights and maybe now LeBron James threatens to come for that too.
”The championship still goes through L.A.,” James said. ”It doesn’t matter if you beat them four times, you still have to beat them in the Finals to take that trophy away from them.”
No one understands that the way that Kobe Bryant does, and perhaps that spoke to so much of his seething on Thursday night.
Outside the locker room late Thursday, Kobe Bryant leaned against a wall and chatted with some friends. They were replaying the game again, where it had been lost and finally Bryant breathed out, shrugged and insisted the only truth that could hang over a late January night: ”Well, we’ll see in June.”
Kobe needs to slap Pau around a bit and drag Bynum away from hanging at the Playboy mansion.
This is the wrong time of the year to go soft, boys.
8/24 against the Knicks, Do you guys think Kobe will regain his form at some point this season? He's been in a slump for quite some time now.
45% of 24 shots = 10.8
So basically 11/24 instead of 8/24
3 shot difference isn't much of a slump. He's always been on the borderline of "chucker", 45% wasn't great, but wasn't terrible either.
3 little shots put him into 'disaster chucker' slump.
Kobe shot terribly when he broke his pinky as well but eventually recovered to get #4.
Once he can remove the splint, I think he'll recover in time to get #5.
Must suck to be irrelevant. That's exactly what the San Antonio Spurs are. Irrelevant.
We'll see how it goes. I have'nt seen Kobe this bad. Normally law of averages would even it out. But this has been Kobe's worst shooting slump.
If his injury does not get better, I think he'll probably end up at 43% at the end of the season.
Kobe NEEDS to sit and heal his hand. I say he plays it out until All Star weekend. If the hand doesn't heal during the break he should rest so that he is ready for the playoffs.
I want to see Bynum, Gasol, and Odom break out and have great games and put the Lakers on a nice winning streak.
Perhaps Kobe refusing to sit is because he is scared he will be exposed that the Lakers don't need him to be good. With Kobe, they are better, but ....
Bynum, Gasol, and Odom
SoftBig3, 1st round exit at best.
i don't think they can make the 1st round unless LA is in the east. They'll have to beat teams like spurs, suns, grizz for the 8th spot in the west, just impossible
From Slam Dumb
Just pointing out, maybe the NBA doesn't have a love affair for Kobe after all.
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