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    The evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio is crushing. The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
    (If these links don't work, do a YouTube search on "Apollo 15 flag waving")

    At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

    These two videos show that he didn't touch the flag.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    There's an analysis of it here in this three part series.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr76q...x=0&playnext=1

    Here's a link to the original NASA footage.
    http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15v.1485317.rm

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    You have to copy and paste the above link. If you click on it, it will go to a Yahoo site. The part of the footage that showed the flag moving has been cut out (it was there when I posted it). I guess NASA is doing all it can to control the damage.
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    This video shows that the flag is moving much faster than it would in lunar gravity.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUncG26MMA

    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...ad+horses&aq=f


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00

    The above video refutes this attempt by the government to mislead the public.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhab86KoVjU

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    There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
    http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm

    What I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved their methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

    At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIy8ZqqK5G8
    (If the above link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Conspiracy Theory : Did We Land on the Moon ?")

    It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 40 second mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHwzyqICYTM


    (The above video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" keeps going on and off-line. If the above link is dead, click here)
    http://video.google.es/videosearch?q...=a+funny+thin#

    It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
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    When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

    Here it is doubled.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-E

    When the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations) combined with wire supports in the later missions.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW31fOWzY-E
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    Watch how the corner of Collins' jacket moves in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqdB1b53jc
    (00:52 time mark)

    The corner of Collins' jacket swings back and forth the way it would in gravity.

    If the above link is dead, the footage can be seen here.
    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17299829n...The+Little+Gem
    (17:40 time mark)

    It's necessary to download the "Veoh video player" to be able to see it. It's free.
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    Look at the corners of the jacket the woman astronaut is wearing in this clip.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4

    That is real zero-gravity and they behave quite differently.

    The movement of Collins' jacket corner is very different from that of the straps in this clip which is in zero-G.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofwzby1c7o
    (3:17 time mark)

    It looks the same as the movement of this guy's jacket corners in gravity.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNGNW5Evs4

    One possible explanation is that they were trying to fake zero-gravity in a diving plane and the plane wasn't diving fast enough at that point.
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    There is no blast crater under the lander.
    http://thoughtworld.files.wordpress....7/picture1.jpg

    That is discussed in this four part video series.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQNZQdJFtI

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    Look at the size of the reflection of the sun in the astronaut's visor at the beginning of this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

    Now look at the reflection of the sun in the visor in this picture at the top of this page.
    http://www.allposters.com/es/gallery...408&DestType=7

    It's pretty clear that the reflection in the Apollo astronaut's visor is that of a big light. Here's an article about that.
    http://www.aulis.com/sunsize.htm

    Also, look at the reflection of the sun in the astroanut's visor in this video at the 1:25 time mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM8OYqcXzUo
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    At bottom of this page there's a picture of the astronaut's visor that has in it the reflection of what looks like some kind of studio light.
    http://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_9.html

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    Here's some evidence that they used wire supports to fake lunar gravity.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjesg6ShxMU
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    Here is some proof that the mountains in the background of the footage are really backdrops on a stage.
    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
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    The moon rocks are often presented as proof the missions were real. There are plausible explanations that would explain them.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIlgQhUi9A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQQHTjeMkA

    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...Revisited&aq=f


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    People say the Soviets would have snitched. There are explanations for that too:
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+cold+war&aq=f

    http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
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    Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
    Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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    The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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    Everyone should read Chomsky's analysis of the cold war.
    http://libcom.org/history/articles/c...?quicktabs_1=0
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    On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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    It someone were to make a deathbed statement saying the moon missions were faked, the press would never report it as the press is controlled.
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Me...dia_watch.html
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...sky+media&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

    Also, it would be downright dangerous for someone to come forward. Look what happened to these guys.
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...F11+witnesses+

    Science journals are controlled too.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA


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    Here are some videos.
    http://es.youtube.com/results?search...rch_type=&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc
    http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39LR3Jay0Q
    (6 parts. If the link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Was is Only a Paper Moon?")


    http://www.youtube.com/user/un4g1v3n1?feature=watch

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIWhzTzLn0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjzKb...15E9FD150981FC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY


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    What Happened on the Moon" (documentary)
    http://video.google.es/videosearch?h...8&sa=N&tab=wv#

    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc....0.dLZem8w-o0Q
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    Here are some articles.
    http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
    http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html
    http://erichufschmid.net/Interview-w...rt-Sibrel.html
    http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
    http://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm
    http://www.reddit.com/domain/norther...r.blogspot.com
    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot....inking_24.html
    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot....-positive.html
    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot....heir-fake.html

    http://www.erichufschmid.net/Apollo_NASA.html
    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html
    (Wagging the Moondoggie)

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax

    http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1477
    (Bill Kaysing's book)

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    The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

    Here's a link to the entire conference.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...24572487804641

    This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

    Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too.
    http://vimeo.com/24508433

    The main reason they had to fake it was probably space radiation. Here are some articles and videos I've found on the subject.

    http://apollotruth.atspace.co.uk/
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    There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
    Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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    two sets of radiation data
    http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldogleb...oooo/id82.html
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    To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
    OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
    to
    disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
    unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
    really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
    Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
    one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
    likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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    http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
    http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInf...Challenge.html
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...9659&hl=apollo

    These two are important
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    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8519798

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rotplZn0g
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKB5u_VTt6M
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcytzf7PkRA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DhY1NvmIc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnckudD9oa8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTzo3G_hvo
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiIR7hA1rM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toI1Xw9paW4
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xlKooAbKpM
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    The Chinese space walks were obviously faked in a water tank and NASA's official position is that the Chinese space walks were real.
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g
    http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/

    The pro-Apollo posters at the forums of both the "Clavius" and "Bad Astronomy" websites tap danced around the evidence that the Chinese space walk was faked because they have to agree with the official US government version and they can't say it was faked without looking silly. Here are the threads. They're hilarious.

    http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthre...alk-conspiracy
    http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthre...ked-underwater
    http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthre...unch-broadcast
    http://apollohoax.proboards.com/inde...ay&thread=2206

    They pretty much destroyed the credibility of those two sites when they didn't seriously address the evidence.
    http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

    It's pretty clear that they're government damage-control sites.

    Here's some good research if anyone wants to delve further.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChange...=48603&t=51606

    On this thread there's a debate between Jarrah White and Jay Windley.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446557/.../133905495?p=1

    Jay Windley is the most famous pro-Apollo person on the internet.
    http://www.clavius.org/about.html

    Jarrah White is the main hoax-believer on the internet.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...moonfaker&aq=f

    In this video Jarrah says he stopped posting in that debate because the moderator was deleting his posts.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK9TXFQLjg4

    Jay Windley will only debate where the moderator will ride to his rescue when he's cornered.

    Here's some more stuff about Clavius and Bad Astronomy.
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628

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    Some of the links on page #1 of the above thread are dead. Here's a link to a post (#4391) in which those links are active.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=147&p=7712820&viewful l=1#post7712820


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    There's some important stuff in post #1087. Here's the link to it.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post4731597

    (This is post #4083 but it's important)
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6341973

    ( 10/02/13- now the above post is #4041 which means that forty two posts have been deleted)

    They may have faked the Mars missions too. Do a YouTube search on "MarsFaker Jarrah White" or click on this link.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marsfaker+jarrah+white


    (edit 18/3/17)

    Right now Spurstalk can't be accessed on GoogleChrome or Internet Explorer. I can only access it through FireFox on the second try. Be sure to tell people that if you forward this thread.
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    We've been though this before Mouse.

    There is no evidence they were faked. It all has valid explaination.

    There are working retro-reflectors placed on the moon by man.

    I could go on, but look at prior posts if you aren't Mouse, but it looks like you are Mouse with another alias yet.
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    Didn't Mythbusters basically debunk all this a while back?

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    You should try one of those new burgers at McDonalds. I think they call it the Big Mac. Also if you get a chance hop on down to the theaters and catch Ghostbusters. I hear its pretty good.
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    There are working retro-reflectors placed on the moon by man.
    If the Surveyor program was real, they had the technology to send remote-control robotic craft to the moon then.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveyor_Program

    Reflectors on the moon are not proof that there were people on the moon.

    Tell us what made the flag move in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y

    I could go on, but look at prior posts if you aren't Mouse
    Sorry. I should have done a search before starting this thread.


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    I tried to add this to post #1 but it exceeded the character limit so I'm posting it here.

    A couple of disinfo agents filled up page #149 with videos to make it too slow to view so I'm putting the important info from that page here.

    The astronauts say contradictory things about being able to see stars. Check out this info.

    No star no navigation
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vizbcJkA8rA

    http://hugequestions.com/Eric/Astron...pOne-trip.html
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    "Seeing the bright blue sky turning pitch-black and seeing stars appear while it is day time is absolutely mind-blowing."
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    http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...006e32103.html

    http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap070621.html

    http://hugequestions.com/Eric/Astro-Nuts-see-stars.html

    Here's a good discussion on it.
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...1116&hl=apollo


    edit 5/13/15

    Here's an expert in special effects explaining why he thinks the lunar rover footage was faked.

    Lunar rover on the moon. Was it a RC model? (Extended Edition)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK3R2en4p_8
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    edit 5/29/15

    Never Broadcast Bill Kaysing Interview
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJxHnpa90w4

    http://www.moonfaker.com/faqs.html


    edit 8/30/15
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    More on the flag.

    Physics of the Moon Flag - part 2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscIMIkiER8

    Moonfaker LRO Flag or no Flag
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRXretl0amQ


    added 9/18/15

    NASA engineer admits they can't get past the Van Allen Belts (Just for you Gary Gorrell)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE


    added 10/7/15
    http://www.aulis.com/orion_vanallens.htm


    added 10/29/15
    http://theedgeam.com/interviews/Bart...l_03.25.06.mp3


    added 1/21/16
    Physics of the Moon Walk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AerNjmLqVe0

    The shills are trying to bury stuff at the end of this thread. Here's one of the posts.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=164&p=8635735&viewful l=1#post8635735

    edit 7/28/16
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8689033

    I'll link to more buried stuff later.

    edit 6-26-16
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    I just came across this site but I haven't taken a close look at it yet.
    http://moralmatters.org/tag/hollywood-production/page/11/

    One of the hotlinks leads to this.
    http://wn.com/van_allen_radiation_belts


    https://flybynews.wordpress.com/2013...-landing-hoax/


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    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9187672
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    Sorry. I should have done a search before starting this thread.
    No shit. It would have saved you the excessive cut and paste.

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    Didn't Mythbusters basically debunk all this a while back?
    This video pointed out a real mistake by hoax-believers.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAcXBT-GZCo

    Correcting this mistake doesn't debunk the hoax theory though; we still have the issue of whether the light source was artificial, or the sun. The rest of the MythBusters series is just an attempt to obfuscate the evidence. When they made this video...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhab86KoVjU

    ...they didn't deal with the issue of the flag moving without being touched that this video shows.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y


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    MythBusters has been shown to be an attempt at damage-control by professional sophists.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ajIVmGiQE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4M
    http://aulis.com/mythbusters.htm
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    It's definitely possible that the moon landings were fake. I'm confident about the Roswell and JFK conspiracies than this conspiracy. One thing that has always made me skeptical about the moon landings is why hasn't NASA gone back to the moon?

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    One thing that has always made me skeptical about the moon landings is why hasn't NASA gone back to the moon?
    Even in 2000's terms, it takes a lot of money to fund a lunar exploration program; that was equally true in the 1970's. At the conclusion of the Apollo program, NASA's relatively limited budget was sunken entirely into developing a reuseable space craft and accomplishing scientific objectives in Earth orbit -- things that NASA had skipped in jumping from Mercury to Gemini to Apollo.

    The idea that NASA could have done that AND funded lunar missions is, in my mind, a bit far-fetched.

    I have no doubt that NASA put men on the moon in the late 1960's and early 1970's. I have no doubt that NASA and others will put men on the moon again relatively soon.

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    I have no doubt that NASA put men on the moon in the late 1960's and early 1970's. I have no doubt that NASA and others will put men on the moon again relatively soon.
    Tell us what made the flag move in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
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    Wasnt this theory something that the US government made hollywood to work on a artificial moon and footage so that it looked like Americans have been on the moon, and in return someone from hollywood would eventually become president? And thus Reagan became one?
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    Anyway, yeah it definitely can be, because for the US it was huge to win the race to the moon. So they were willing to do just anything, just to beat the russians, so if it was needed to fake and stage it all just to win the race, they would have done it I think.

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    It's definitely possible that the moon landings were fake. I'm confident about the Roswell and JFK conspiracies than this conspiracy. One thing that has always made me skeptical about the moon landings is why hasn't NASA gone back to the moon?
    Well, this argument doesnt really say anything because, for them their goal was to beat the russians in doing and trying to get there, so when they made that goal, they didnt have a really good reason to do it again, nor the russians to try it again.

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    Didn't Mythbusters basically debunk all this a while back?

    How on earth can mythbusters debunk this?

    The only one who can do it are the people who are behind this whole moon expedition, fake or not. We will never know, at least not in the next 50 years.

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    The only one who can do it are the people who are behind this whole moon expedition, fake or not. We will never know, at least not in the next 50 years.
    If there is lots of footage that was obviusly faked in a studio, can't we deduce that the missions were faked? You seem to think the only way we'll know is if there's an official recognition.

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    C'mon son!!

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    If there is lots of footage that was obviusly faked in a studio, can't we deduce that the missions were faked? You seem to think the only way we'll know is if there's an official recognition.
    We can deduce, but so long the authorities who have the sovereignty deny it, it will just be a loose theory. Of course we can believe it and be sure, but so long its denied, we cannot do anything. The only way to have real proof, is if either they recognize it or we find it out somehow.

    It's the same as with 9/11. If they deny it, what else can you do? Nothing and even if you are trying to get the truth and even if you are close to the truth, they will find a way to shut you up. It has happened in the past, so it will be in the future.

    But over time, many secrets come out, and over time we can have a insight in secret archives and documents. But, at least not in the next 50 years, probably even more, so we won't be able to see that happen. So, yeah, we will never know.

    Maybe our children and grandchildren.
    Last edited by Bukefal; 01-16-2010 at 03:22 PM.

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    tl/dr/gfu

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    This thread is just beating a dead horse.


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    Had we faked the moon landings, we would have faked a mars landing by now.

    Also there would have been no reason for the AS-204 astronauts to die.
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    It's true.

    We also just faked a Pandora landing. Open your eyes America.
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    This thread is fake.
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    This thread is just beating a dead horse.

    Topics you get your ass kicked in daily are always old and tired, it's only fresh when you want to talk about things, how fresh is the bible and evolution yet your stubborn one sided ass seems to show up.

    I already debunked the myth busters they have been exposed as Hollywood special effects guys long ago, besides something done in a lab can't duplicate what is done in space or in a Hollywood studio. You notice the myth busters stay away fro debunking the hard shit.


    Furthermore the Russians had already sent a rover to the moon to take dirt samples, it's a known fact a rover was responsible for leaving reflectors so the Russians and Americans can measure the distance from the earth to the moon.

    another thing every time mouse brings up why Nasa staged the scene where they pretend they are halfway from the moon to the earth you guys say"who knows why?" then move on to another topic that you think you have answers for.

    And finally you guys will never really know what happened on the moon for the mere fact you have asshats like Phyzix who tell posters what topics they are allowed to post in, very American of him.
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    This topic is a perfect example how pole here like to "censor" what you say and when you say it. Notice how Phyzix who can feel another ass kicking coming decides to tell mouse where he can, and cannot post.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...highlight=NASA

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    Have your myth buster pals debunk this video, also try and explain why NASA did this and you may have a debate on your hands.


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    This topic has all you NASA loving guys getting your asses kicked and was why Phyzix banned mouse from the club.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...highlight=NASA

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    Put down the pork skins turn off Fox news and learn something today!

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#

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    This topic has all you NASA loving guys getting your asses kicked and was why Phyzix banned mouse from the club.
    But, you're here.

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    But not mouse.
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