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Because an individual might contemplate it in some extreme cir stance let's give the state the power to torture as it sees fit. Brilliant.
I would bet my big nuts that 99 percent of Spewstalk would torture someone if they thought they could save a loved ones life. That whole waterboading talk last year got carried away. Was not even torture. Quit listening to a bunch of s telling you America is bad for that. Pull their fingernails off if need be. That poll should surprise noone.
Because an individual might contemplate it in some extreme cir stance let's give the state the power to torture as it sees fit. Brilliant.
"they could save a loved ones life"
ah, the old ticking bomb argument, even years after it has been thoroughly refuted and ridiculed.
Remember there were only like 3 people waterboarded so they used good judgement.
What is the true meaning of the word, SnC.
Define exactly what torture is once and for all.
Several dozen times.
To negligible effect.
Bad judgment.
If it was so effective and nothing is wrong with it, why limit it to only three people and stop forever?
I wouldn't limit it to only 3 or several dozens. Obama stopped it. Well atleast us waterboarding. He will freelance the work to other countries.
Wrong.
Bush stopped it.
When did he do that?
Depending on your definition of stopping, 2005 or 2007.
Again, if it is so harmless and effective, why not do it to everybody?
I guess it really depends on your definition. In 2008 Bush vetoed a bill that would have stopped it.
So we hope. How many were shipped elsewhere to get a car battery hooked up to their balls?
Would not an accused drug dealer be worthy? How about an accused thief?
You forgot the "If there's a ticking bomb..." case. Or whatever they showed on 24 last week.
Canadian Maher Arar was bound over to the Syrians, who buried him alive in a too-small coffin, inter alia. Does that count?
I hope you still aren't blaming our government:
Lack of Accountability Unnaceptable
RCMP's embattled chief quits over Arar testimonyEven the Commissioner of the RCMP Giuliano Zaccardelli is not taking responsibility for his criminal negligence and the wrongdoing of his officers as cited in the Arar Inquiry report released on September 18.
Extraordinary rendition may be legal: do entsGiuliano Zaccardelli resigned as RCMP commissioner Wednesday, a day after admitting he gave incorrect testimony on the Maher Arar affair to a Commons committee.
CSIS didn’t want Arar returned to CanadaA commission of inquiry concluded that erroneous information the RCMP passed to the United States very likely led to Arar's removal to Syria.
RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli testified at the Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security on Thursday of last week. Mr. Zaccardelli said after Mr. Arar’s extraordinary rendition from New York to Syria in 2002, he was alerted to Mr. Arar’s case and that he attempted to correction false information about Mr. Arar that the RCMP sent to U.S. authorities.
The Canadians goofed big time, but we hustled him out of the country in a nearly process-free manner, and we had some idea the Syrians could mistreat him when we handed him over. lame protestations to the contrary notwithstanding.
We denied his lawsuit on national security grounds, and his no-fly status remains.
Maher Arar did nothing to deserve what happened to him, and without us, it would not have happened to him.
So who else did we waterboard after 2005?
That is my point. We waterboarded those who we needed too.
Bush didn't stop it. The CIA stopped it once it became public. Once they got intel that the enemy was training to resist it, it was a useless tactic.
If it's so harmless and effective, why wouldn't we waterboard everyone.
How effective was it if it was done dozens and dozens of times to the same people?
Sounds like it was pretty useless all along.
Some answer questions when you ask and some don't.
But you won't know who those people are until you torture them.
Waterboarding isn't torture.
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