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    That's what you get for hating America.

    Typical retarded post from a typical retard. Pat Tillman gave up his NFL career because he loved America so much and died in the process. Great logic
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    I really think Howard doesn't have the drive anymore to make that comeback. I think he will retire within the next year.
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    Sucks for him. He won't be fully healthy till the end of this year.

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    I know this makes me a horrible person, but it is a little funny that this would happen after his talk of "sticking it to the Mavs." His own knee wants him to shut the fuck up.
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    Goddamn! My knee hurt like a motherfucker last night! I'm aight now tho, after I got into the locker room, I grabbed my special stash of the stickiest dank and got HIGH AS FUCK and now my knee's straight! I'ma be ballin tomorrow!


    The Josh Howard troll is my favorite troll of them all.
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    his talk of "sticking it to the Mavs."
    WTF? Cuban stuck up for him duirng the anthem crisis and lost millions in potential sponsorships because of him. And he wants to stick it to the Mavs?
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    Cuban stuck up for him duirng the anthem crisis and lost millions in potential sponsorships because of him.
    He did? Who are these sponsors that cancelled scheduled promotions with the Mavs?
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    Mark Cuban saved Howard from the Spotlight

    Who are these sponsors that cancelled scheduled promotions with the Mavs?
    It's the potential sponsors that didn't sign up with the Mavs that were lost because of this incident.

    A red, white and blue town like Dallas can't afford to have players dissing America.

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    Mark Cuban saved Howard from the Spotlight



    It's the potential sponsors that didn't sign up with the Mavs that were lost because of this incident.

    A red, white and blue town like Dallas can't afford to have players dissing America.

    AKA you have no idea wtf you're talking about.

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    AKA you have no idea wtf you're talking about.
    AKA you have no response, DoK?

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    AKA you have no response, DoK?

    This isn't a DoK troll.

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    It's the potential sponsors that didn't sign up with the Mavs that were lost because of this incident.
    Which specific sponsors decided to pass on a partnership with the Mavs?

    A red, white and blue town like Dallas can't afford to have players dissing America
    The Mavericks play in Dallas, not Waco or Abilene. Have you ever set foot here?

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    This isn't a DoK troll.
    Sure it isn't.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Dallas leans liberal. It's not some gun toting white trash town that has nothing other than a good high school football program.

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    Which specific sponsors decided to pass on a partnership with the Mavs?
    Who knows which corporations.

    But corporations shy away from negative publicity. This is basic marketing.

    This is the same reason why Abdoul and Hodges were black-balled.

    Josh Howard is Black-balled; no team is going to give him another big contract.

    You tell me, is any US team going to give him another multi-year contract?

    The Mavericks play in Dallas, not Waco or Abilene. Have you ever set foot here?
    Yes I have.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Dallas leans liberal. It's not some gun toting white trash town that has nothing other than a good high school football program.
    Both Obama and Kerry carried the city of Dallas if I'm not mistaken. If the Mavericks fanbase consisted solely of people who live north of 635, then he might have a point. But he doesn't.

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    Who knows which corporations.
    So speculation on your part.



    You tell me, is any US team going to give him another multi-year contract?
    I don't know and neither do you. If he comes back next year and plays well, some team will sign him. It's what ability he has left, not dissing the anthem, that will determine his future in the NBA.

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    If you guys don't think Josh Howard is black-balled.

    You tell me, will he get another multi-year contract?

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    So speculation on your part.
    Nope, basic marketing you learn in school. You don't market yourself to negative influences.

    It's what ability he has left, not dissing the anthem, that will determine his future in the NBA.
    Yeah, that's what Abdoul Rouf and Craig Hodges thought.

    His option is not going to get picked up next year. Will he get a new multi-year contract or not? Don't avoid the question.

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    If you guys don't think Josh Howard is black-balled.

    You tell me, will he get another multi-year contract?
    He would've gotten more than one year and a good portion of the MLE from some team this summer had he not torn his ACL.

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    His option is not going to get picked up next year. Will he get a new multi-year contract or not? Don't avoid the question.

    Probably not, and it's got nothing to do with the national anthem, it's got something to do with the fact he can't stay healthy and has questionable production when he is healthy. If 2006-2007 Josh Howard did what he did, he'd still get a multi-year contract.

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    Nope, basic marketing you learn in school.
    That word doesn't mean what you think it means. Which specific sponsors declined to do a promotion with Dallas after Howard dissed the national anthem?



    His option is not going to get picked up next year.
    Duh. Nobody wants to pay Howard $11 million a year.

    Will he get a new multi-year contract or not?
    Not while he's rehabbing a torn ACL. That's basic logic that you learn in school.

    Don't avoid the question
    Assuming he comes back and is the same player he was before hurting his ACL, he'd get more than one year and a sizable portion of the MLE from some team. I'd say 3 years, $12 million is something a healthy Howard could get in this market. If teams are so scared off by Howard's antics, why did the Wizards trade for him? Why did the Mavs hold onto him for almost two years after he dissed the anthem instead of trading him back then?

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    He would've gotten more than one year and a good portion of the MLE from some team this summer had he not torn his ACL.
    Excuses.

    He's torn his ACL, plenty of players recover from this and he'll be ready for training camp.

    I told you guys a year ago that Josh Howard wouldn't get another multi-year contract when we first discussed this.

    Outside of Toronto, of course, since they don't care.

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    Excuses. He's torn his ACL, plenty of players recover from this and he'll be ready for training camp.

    I told you guys a year ago that Josh Howard wouldn't get another multi-year contract when we first discussed this.

    Outside of Toronto, of course, since they don't care.

    Plenty of players recover from a lot of things. Doesn't mean they all get multi-year contracts before they've shown they can recover.

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    Plenty of players recover from a lot of things. Doesn't mean they all get multi-year contracts before they've shown they can recover.
    More excuses.

    It doesn't matter how good Josh Howard is, he's on his way out of the NBA; due to his national anthem stunt.

    And I've said this before; y'all didn't believe me then and you don't believe me now.

    But you will in a few years.

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    More excuses.

    It doesn't matter how good Josh Howard is, he's on his way out of the NBA; due to his national anthem stunt.

    And I've said this before; y'all didn't believe me then and you don't believe me now.

    But you will in a few years.

    Lets say tomorrow Lebron James makes a public statement that he doesn't have to sing the national anthem because he is black. Would he not get a multi-year contract offer this off season?

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    Lets say tomorrow Lebron James makes a public statement that he doesn't have to sing the national anthem because he is black. Would he not get a multi-year contract offer this off season?
    That's LeBron James. He will get his contract after a few apologies. Same with the MJ's, Kobe's and Duncan's of the world.

    Guys like Josh Howard, Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, <mid level player> would not survive something like that.

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    That's LeBron James. He will get his contract after a few apologies. Same with the MJ's, Kobe's and Duncan's of the world.

    Guys like Josh Howard, Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, <mid level player> would not survive something like that.
    lol why is not singing the national anthem such a problem? Josh Howard is pissed because this country has always been racist towards blacks, so he's not singing the national anthem. Big fucking deal.

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    lol why is not singing the national anthem such a problem? Josh Howard is pissed because this country has always been racist towards blacks, so he's not singing the national anthem. Big fucking deal.
    If he does it and nobody notices; nobody cares.

    But it's a public relations disaster if you get caught. And the team loses potential sponsors because of it. These fat-cat owners don't want to lose money.

    Just look at Abdoul Rouf and Craig Hodges.

    They're exactly what happens when you are public about being un-patriotic.

    Un-patriotic guys are batting 100% when it comes to leaving the NBA. And Josh Howard is on his way out.

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