Terrorists charged in Police-killing plot

[LnGrrrR]

I believe the MCA update of 2009 removed the ability to do that to citizens.

That said, considering we were discussing not long ago that the executive can order the summary execution of american citizens, I'm not sure it really matters...

Thanks for the clarification ElBamba; ElNoNo, thanks for speaking to my larger point.

Maybe Obama's wish of an indefinite detention time is the way he plans on getting around that pesky Bill of Rights.

[panic giraffe]

i wonder how good ole' joe six packs like this would feel if us inner city folk had our own. we're we organized urban combat teams to defend our beliefs. they would probably quit their weekend warrior bullshit fast.

[Winehole23]

HUTTAREE HOOPLA UPDATE: Judge asks feds to show militia did more than talk. “A federal judge challenged prosecutors Wednesday to show that nine members of a Michigan militia accused of plotting war against the government had done more than just talk and should remain locked up. . . . Roberts pressed that point more than once as Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald Waterstreet argued in favor of keeping the nine in jail. The judge suggested she didn’t hear or read in the transcripts any indication that violence was imminent. ‘Mere presence where a crime may be planned is not a crime. … How does this add up to seditious conspiracy?’ Roberts said.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, I read that. Silly activist judge trying to ask for actual evidence...

[Winehole23]

the government's case falls apart:

http://www.mied.uscourts.gov/USAvSto...Counts_1-7.pdf

[Winehole23]

via emptywheel

(for the record, I do not agree Wheeler's racialist gloss)

[DarrinS]

via emptywheel

(for the record, I do not agree Wheeler's racialist gloss)

lol "The WMD Charges against White People Get Thrown Out"

[RandomGuy]

the government's case falls apart:

http://www.mied.uscourts.gov/USAvSto...Counts_1-7.pdf

It's a conspir--... oh wait, nevermind.

[Winehole23]

lol "The WMD Charges against White People Get Thrown Out"

Silly headline and concluding sentence to be sure, but Wheeler supports the judge's conclusion that vile speech can't be prosecuted.

Do you?

[ElNono]

Answers the question I asked back then:

They're not military, they're civilians. But you bring a good point, which tangentially touches what I was asking earlier (a question that, not surprisingly, was followed by deafening silence). If these guys didn't really carry out any of those acts, and it turns out that the firearms they possessed are legal, what are they going to be charged with, exactly?
I'm not 100% up to date with the current anti-terror laws, but are we already penalizing thought crimes?

Apparently, the justice system still works.

Oh, I agree they are probably guilty as charged.

lol

[Winehole23]

Don't get me wrong, I think they deserve the harshest punishment...

For what?

[Winehole23]

cross posted at: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195095

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

There is nothing summarily about it "if this is the case." Why should we pay for lifetime incarceration? Animals who cannot be civil in society need no be in society.

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