Fantastic season 4 opener, it's great to see that this show hasn't missed a step after all these years.
Anyone else a big fan?
Fantastic season 4 opener, it's great to see that this show hasn't missed a step after all these years.
Anyone else a big fan?
I won't watch TV dramas unless they're on HBO, because commercial interruptions are an absolute joke and people say 'fuck' in the real world. A lot.
That said, tonight's episode was the first time I've ever watched Mad Men and I really enjoyed it. I'll probably keep watching; depending on how it goes, I'll catch up on seasons 1-3.
shame this and breaking bad arent on hbo for the reasons already listed. i havent seen mad men yet. too many seasons for me to catch up to but my that redhead looks good.
One thing I noticed however is that although there's always been a big deal made about how Mad Men goes to great lengths to present authentic 1960's set designs, that bottle of Jameson they were using looked an awful lot like the one I pick up at the liquor store every other week.
I'd be lying if I claimed to know for sure, but I'd be very surprised if the Jameson bottle has changed significantly between 1964 and now.
"I wanna get down on my knees and start pleasing Jesus,I wanna feel his salvation all over my face"
-- Faith + 1
I would like to have seen more of the hotel days of the new agency, but I guess they were anxious to show the Time-Life building set.
Still good TV.
So unless a show can say 'fuck' it's not realistic enough for you? Weird. I kept turning back to AMC off and on for the hour but only with the hopes that I'd catch a scene with..
Now that's a woman.
The girl that Cooper and Jane set Don Draper up was the business. She was way better looking than Betsy and she knew how to get Don's attention. Playing hard to get is what gets the narcissistic Draper off. This show is definitely worth checking out regardless of what channel it is on.
I'm usually more interested in a well written and entertaining story, regardless of the language.
Does that apply to movies too?
tbh I'm still laughing at how boorish and knuckle-dragger a mentality like "I don't watch shows unless they say fuck a lot" is.
Truthfully, any shows with criminals that doesn't include cursing is pretty laughable. But some basic cable shows can say shit and bitch so that's better. I always laugh whenever I see some basic TV show and in the interrogation room and a hardened criminal tells a cop to "go take a hike" or "buzz off".
One of the most confusing things about this show is how women react to it.
Don Draper is a cheating husband, a terrible father, a total narcissist who changed his identity as an adult to hide his past... and women love him.
But what's even more confusing is that not only do they forgive his morally vacuous behavior... when that behavior finally drives his wife away to the arms of another man who treats her with some semblance of respect, she's a whore! I have yet to talk to any woman that watches this show who has any sympathy for Betsy Draper.
What is wrong with you people?
Women say they want the all-good-man, but secretly desire the asshole...duh! That's been the way things have gone for eons...
Don't be literalist morons. I know thinking is routinely difficult for the for the both of you, especially you, CubanSucks, but at least try to wrap your feeble minds around an allegorical reference to: reality vs. not. Whether that entails usage of the word 'fuck' or something otherwise.So unless a show can say 'fuck' it's not realistic enough for you?
I agree with you, it's like people who whined about the beginning of Saving Private Ryan and said that it was over the top and too gory. That's the way shit happened. If you want faggy, macho faux history war movies watch Marion Morrison aka John Wayne gung ho it up in any of those old movies.
Can't speak for everyone, but I don't personally know any women who view either character in such simplistic terms. Or men. They're both pretty fucked up characters.
Seriously. It all depends on the context of the genre. When I sit down to watch a Pixar film, I don't expect the characters to act or talk like adults. When I watch a cop show, a drama, something adult that is going for realism, I do.
Like you said, is there anything more ridiculous than watching some foul mouthed NYPD detective tell someone to 'buzz off'. Basically, if you can watch that kind of totally unreal shit without being bothered or finding it utterly unrealistic, you must be an idiot or a laughably complacent media consumer.
realism in a war movie is completely different than refusing to watch non-HBO dramas because you know they won't say "fuck".
We're not talking about some shitty canned show like The Closer. We're talking about very well written, realistic dramas that are great shows regardless of the language being used.
To refuse to watch a show like Mad Men or Breaking Bad because the word fuck is edited out is about as goddamn retarded as it gets, especially since Breaking Bad is better than any show on HBO right now.
Then WTF are you bitching about when I started by saying I normally won't watch TV dramas on basic cable, but I'm making an exception for this one?We're talking about very well written, realistic dramas that are great shows regardless of the language being used.
Seriously. It all depends on the context of the genre. When I sit down to watch a Pixar film, I don't expect the characters to act or talk like adults. When I watch a cop show, a drama, something adult that is going for realism, I do.
And again, don't be so literal and retarded. Think an ounce below the surface for once. I'm not just talking about the word itself. That word was an example of something larger mono. Everything from language, to violence to thematic elements. If it's toned down for the sake of commercial sponsors, it's a joke.
Here: go learn something
lit·er·al·ism (ltr--lzm)
1. Adherence to the explicit sense of a given text or doctrine.
1. Allegory is a figurative mode of representation conveying meaning other than the literal.
What's funny is that in The First 48, a reality show with real detectives, their language is actually pretty clean. So do you want reality, or the "reality" you enjoy because you get off by hearing the word fuck?
No, I guess that's not meant to be taken literally.
excuse me, I mean fuck no, I fucking guess that's not fucking meant to be fucking taken fucking literally. Better? More realistic?
Silly arguments and pissing contests aside, "Mad Men" is one of the best/smartest shows currently on television. Whatever your reason for skipping the first three seasons, I'd suggest it's worth your time to give it a shot.
Well, I disagree with balli on basic cable shows. I like Cable shows like The Shield which was awesome for instance, but on Cable they can say shit and bitch and deal more freely with adult subjects. I also watched every episode of 24 which managed to be hard edged despite the language due to the plot lines. But cursing definitely improves a show/movie. Take any crime/gangster show on basic TV and compare it to Goodfellas, The Sopranos, The Shield, or The Wire etc
What I'm talking about is shows like Law & Order which I watch occasionally on re-runs since each episode is self contained. The interrogation scenes are pretty laughable sometimes dude to censor constraints. Even 24 has to use the constant threat that Bauer will kill someone to give the interrogation scenes any pop.
You're going to destroy your own argument if you try to make the case that people don't curse in real life. Back track on this. Also, in cops shows they have these things called criminals, which curse the fuck out of shit. Those cops probably don't curse because they're on TV, or they might be two people who don't but tons of cops do.
I generally only watch HBO and Showtime shows but that's only because I don't like to have to follow 40 shows at once, plus I like to illegally download and watch classic shows I never had the chance to see when they were on like Larry Sanders, Fawlty Towers, Freaks and Geeks, and whatever else I discover out there. Not to mention movies, books, and outdoor activities.
For those of you that don't watch Mad Men, you're making a huge huge mistake.
I hear you guys on how these shows (Mad Men, Breaking Bad) coulda/shoulda been on HBO but you gotta give AMC credit for going 2/2 on original programming so far.
I wasn't feeling the Rubicon series...perhaps i'll have to let it grow before liking it.
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