Rumor: Malik Hairston to Montepaschi? (Confirmed) - Page 2 - SpursTalk.com

urunobili · 07-29-2010, 07:22 AM

THC gone

coyotes_geek · 07-29-2010, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan

Wonder why there aren't a bunch of playoff teams after him,after all he's equally as good as RJ. Seriously - read it in the internets!

Clearly the plot to destroy Malik's nba career goes far beyond the Spurs. The other 29 teams must be in on it.

Either that or Malik just isn't that good.

One of the two............

SenorSpur · 07-29-2010, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by ceperez

Looks like a done deal.

Spurs roster now down to 13.

PG - Parker/Hill/Temple
SG - Ginobili/Anderson/Neal
SF - RJ/Gee
PF - Duncan/Bonner/Blair
C - Splitter/McDyess

That's one too many, Gee likely heading to Toros. Spurs light on the SF position.

If the Spurs feel Gee isn't ready for prime time yet, this makes one wonder WHY the team didn't bother to go after another SF?

timtonymanu · 07-29-2010, 07:31 AM

Saw this coming but didnt want to think about it.

The Spurs just lost their only decent perimeter defender. The front office is really obsessed with just finding shooters that are below average defenders.

I wish Malik the best. THC forever.

timtonymanu · 07-29-2010, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by SenorSpur

If the Spurs feel Gee isn't ready for prime time yet, this makes one wonder WHY the team didn't bother to go after another SF?

+1. If Hairston was gonna be gone all along, why didnt the Spurs go after Butler? I guess they'll sign shitty ass Morrison or something.

ChuckD · 07-29-2010, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by ceperez

Yeah, forgot about him. But based on his SL performance, he is good as gone.

Can't always go off SL. Hill was awful. He may stick, and be on the Toros/Spurs shuttle.

ceperez · 07-29-2010, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckD

Can't always go off SL. Hill was awful. He may stick, and be on the Toros/Spurs shuttle.

He's good as gone!

Just look at the PG position, it is full! Parker, Hill, Temple even Neal may play the point.

What's missing is a SF.

ChuckD · 07-29-2010, 07:40 AM

What did him in was twofold: he never stood out among the prospects, and he was out of Toros options.

ChuckD · 07-29-2010, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by ceperez

He's good as gone!

Just look at the PG position, it is full! Parker, Hill, Temple even Neal may play the point.

What's missing is a SF.

If they think he may be worth developing beyond this year, he could shuttle between SA and Austin this year. Both Temple and Neal have the size to play SG. Anderson may swing to the SF, too, behind RJ and Gee.

Leonard Curse · 07-29-2010, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by SenorSpur

If the Spurs feel Gee isn't ready for prime time yet, this makes one wonder WHY the team didn't bother to go after another SF?

THATS A WONDERFUL QUESTION!!!!! TO ADD TO THIS HUGE LIST I HAVE BUT... remember you cant question pops insanity here so lets just hush up before somebody goes apeshit on us. we could have kept him for garbage minutes/insurance at freaking least who else knows our plays that well??!!!, and ill bet you money pop has no "great" plan if he even has one at all!. theres not enough cash and remember our team lets players walk we dont trade here so were really screwed on the SF position guys oh well...

i sure hope this isnt another drunk season

ok 2 be optomistic maybe hairston will come back after those 2 yrs

ElNono · 07-29-2010, 07:45 AM

Another player the Spurs develop for two seasons and leaves bringing nothing in return...

There's no need to dog on Hairston, BTW. He was a project. He probably felt he wouldn't get too many minutes in our roster and this was probably a good deal for him.

benefactor · 07-29-2010, 07:45 AM

I guess the Spurs are pretty high on Gee. They will likely sign a vet SF now.

ChuckD · 07-29-2010, 07:46 AM

It's also a bit telling that Demps isn't making a move for Malik. He positively gushed with praise for Gee. N.O. is in need of some good cheap young talent, and if the Spurs are going to release him, you'd think Demps would give him a call, at least.

ElNono · 07-29-2010, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by SenorSpur

If the Spurs feel Gee isn't ready for prime time yet, this makes one wonder WHY the team didn't bother to go after another SF?

They don't want to pay the luxury tax, most likely.

benefactor · 07-29-2010, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by ElNono

Another player the Spurs develop for two seasons and leaves bringing nothing in return...

There's no need to dog on Hairston, BTW. He was a project. He probably felt he wouldn't get too many minutes in our roster and this was probably a good deal for him.

Yup. He will probably spend a couple of seasons in Europe and then sign elsewhere.

Leonard Curse · 07-29-2010, 07:52 AM

im mad, but its more disappointing that was a huge/long investment and a big waste of time and space for others who would of been drafted!! maybe this means anderson is playing SF?

Truth4sale$ · 07-29-2010, 07:55 AM

As I am neither a Hariston Hater or supporter I think this hurts the Spurs. Hariston's loss will be huge. As of right now on the current roster their is NOBODY who can play above average defense at the SG/SF position with the exception of Manu. I don't include Hill because he is a combo SG/PG.
This shows that with Popovich, he either loves you or loses faith in you. You can man up (G.Hill) or regress / get lost (Manhimi). Critics can say Malik can't shoot or has poor ballhandling but that was good enough for Popovich to play Bogans. Perhaps Malik was told to go over to Europe because he was not quite ready yet. He had no Dleague eligibility left. Perhaps the spurs still own his rights like the Hawks owned Childress. Either way, Malik will get better playing time and hopefully he works on his game and is back here in two years. By then he will be a euro-veteran and he should get some playing time for sure. Good luck!

SenorSpur · 07-29-2010, 07:59 AM

Great. Let's just go out and try to outscore the opposition on a nightly basis.

While other WC teams are getting tougher and more physical, the Spurs are becoming more and more of a finesse team. Now the Spurs don't have a single perimeter defender on the team. How the hell is this team supposed to be any better defensively when they have nothing but poor defenders all around?

It's officlal. Pop has morphed into Don Nelson and the Spurs are now the Golden State Warriors South. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Duncan comes out this season and shows off his new offensive weapon - 3pt shot a la Mehmet Okur. Sheesh!

benefactor · 07-29-2010, 08:12 AM

OV's head is going to explode when he logs on and sees this.

ceperez · 07-29-2010, 08:13 AM

Let's try to construct the F.O. reasoning here:

(1) Rookies who never play a day in the D-league remain in the team (example: Hill, Blair).
(2) Rookies who have been assigned to play exclusively in the D-league never make the team (example: Hairston, Mahinmi)
(3) D-league players (example: Gee, Temple) who are signed stay in the team IF they never get re-assigned to the D-league.

D-league play is the kiss of death if you ever previously got suited up in the Spurs uniform. Or stated in another way, no legit Spurs player ever gets assigned to the D-league.

Anonymous Cowherd · 07-29-2010, 08:20 AM

time to remove "Rumor" from the thread title

kobyz · 07-29-2010, 08:32 AM

it's good i prefer Gee!

SenorSpur · 07-29-2010, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by ceperez

D-league play is the kiss of death if you ever previously got suited up in the Spurs uniform. Or stated in another way, no legit Spurs player ever gets assigned to the D-league.

So exactly WHERE is the developmental advantage?

Somewhere Dennis Johnson is rolling over in his grave?

DPG21920 · 07-29-2010, 08:43 AM

Lame. Let's see what the spurs have planned to fill the massive defensive hole at sf.

Solid D · 07-29-2010, 08:45 AM

Best wishes for Malik in Italy. He's a great player who should excel there with his slashing, energy and hops. I'm sure he'll enjoy knocking a few off the rim and getting away with it.

Gee is the obvious choice to replace Hairston's role with some time in Austin. The Spurs still need a SF and a Big going into training camp. Garrett Temple, if you think about it, may have made Hairston expendable. Garrett is 6-6, can play 3 positions, and is an excellent defender - every bit as good a defender on the perimeter as Malik Hairston has been.

The Spurs may still make a play for a vet. If they don't, then Pop is really sold on giving lots of floor time to Anderson and Temple.

AFBlue · 07-29-2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by SenorSpur

So exactly WHERE is the developmental advantage?

Somewhere Dennis Johnson is rolling over in his grave?

Dude, he's giving you a fairly weak logic-based argument and you're getting emotional. Look at the sample size...you really think that 2 players in each category over three years is really enough to establish a trend? And what about Gee...you can't compare him to Temple b/c he's never played a minute with the big club.

The thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the Spurs make this move now, prior to training camp where they could've legitimately seen if Hairston or Gee was better for the ballclub. This tells me one of two things...

1) Spurs just didn't feel that Hairston was worth the guaranteed money he was owed and cut him.

2) Hairston requested to be released so that he could sign with another team for more money and opportunity to play.

07-29-2010, 07:22 AM	#27
urunobili Spur Forever Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $93210 Post Count: 8,813	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? THC gone _____________________________

07-29-2010, 07:23 AM	#28
coyotes_geek Scrumtrulescent Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $150 Post Count: 4,608	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan Wonder why there aren't a bunch of playoff teams after him,after all he's equally as good as RJ. Seriously - read it in the internets! Clearly the plot to destroy Malik's nba career goes far beyond the Spurs. The other 29 teams must be in on it. Either that or Malik just isn't that good. One of the two............

07-29-2010, 07:23 AM	#29
SenorSpur Hawaii 5-0 Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $85050 Post Count: 11,324	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by ceperez Looks like a done deal. Spurs roster now down to 13. PG - Parker/Hill/Temple SG - Ginobili/Anderson/Neal SF - RJ/Gee PF - Duncan/Bonner/Blair C - Splitter/McDyess That's one too many, Gee likely heading to Toros. Spurs light on the SF position. If the Spurs feel Gee isn't ready for prime time yet, this makes one wonder WHY the team didn't bother to go after another SF?

07-29-2010, 07:31 AM	#30
timtonymanu Bruce and THC!!!! Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $48900 Post Count: 4,606	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Saw this coming but didnt want to think about it. The Spurs just lost their only decent perimeter defender. The front office is really obsessed with just finding shooters that are below average defenders. I wish Malik the best. THC forever. _____________________________ Spurs 2010 offseason

07-29-2010, 07:33 AM	#31
timtonymanu Bruce and THC!!!! Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $48900 Post Count: 4,606	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by SenorSpur If the Spurs feel Gee isn't ready for prime time yet, this makes one wonder WHY the team didn't bother to go after another SF? +1. If Hairston was gonna be gone all along, why didnt the Spurs go after Butler? I guess they'll sign shitty ass Morrison or something.

07-29-2010, 07:36 AM	#32
ChuckD Don't believe the hype... Team: New York Knicks SpursTalk Cash: $18551 Post Count: 1,198	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by ceperez Yeah, forgot about him. But based on his SL performance, he is good as gone. Can't always go off SL. Hill was awful. He may stick, and be on the Toros/Spurs shuttle. _____________________________ My Ninety-Eight boomin' with a trunk of funk All the jealous punks can't stop the dunk

07-29-2010, 07:38 AM	#33
ceperez Can't Start Threads Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $18000 Post Count: 799	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by ChuckD Can't always go off SL. Hill was awful. He may stick, and be on the Toros/Spurs shuttle. He's good as gone! Just look at the PG position, it is full! Parker, Hill, Temple even Neal may play the point. What's missing is a SF.

07-29-2010, 07:40 AM	#34
ChuckD Don't believe the hype... Team: New York Knicks SpursTalk Cash: $18551 Post Count: 1,198	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? What did him in was twofold: he never stood out among the prospects, and he was out of Toros options.

07-29-2010, 07:42 AM	#35
ChuckD Don't believe the hype... Team: New York Knicks SpursTalk Cash: $18551 Post Count: 1,198	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by ceperez He's good as gone! Just look at the PG position, it is full! Parker, Hill, Temple even Neal may play the point. What's missing is a SF. If they think he may be worth developing beyond this year, he could shuttle between SA and Austin this year. Both Temple and Neal have the size to play SG. Anderson may swing to the SF, too, behind RJ and Gee.

07-29-2010, 07:45 AM	#36
Leonard Curse Believe. Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $9050 Post Count: 322	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by SenorSpur If the Spurs feel Gee isn't ready for prime time yet, this makes one wonder WHY the team didn't bother to go after another SF? THATS A WONDERFUL QUESTION!!!!! TO ADD TO THIS HUGE LIST I HAVE BUT... remember you cant question pops insanity here so lets just hush up before somebody goes apeshit on us. we could have kept him for garbage minutes/insurance at freaking least who else knows our plays that well??!!!, and ill bet you money pop has no "great" plan if he even has one at all!. theres not enough cash and remember our team lets players walk we dont trade here so were really screwed on the SF position guys oh well... i sure hope this isnt another drunk season ok 2 be optomistic maybe hairston will come back after those 2 yrs

07-29-2010, 07:45 AM	#37
ElNono FTL Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $16685 Post Count: 19,462	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Another player the Spurs develop for two seasons and leaves bringing nothing in return... There's no need to dog on Hairston, BTW. He was a project. He probably felt he wouldn't get too many minutes in our roster and this was probably a good deal for him. _____________________________

07-29-2010, 07:45 AM	#38
benefactor lol 40 million Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $64800 Post Count: 8,847	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? I guess the Spurs are pretty high on Gee. They will likely sign a vet SF now. _____________________________ Laker fans are the Jehovah's witnesses of the NBA. -HarlemHeat37

07-29-2010, 07:46 AM	#39
ChuckD Don't believe the hype... Team: New York Knicks SpursTalk Cash: $18551 Post Count: 1,198	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? It's also a bit telling that Demps isn't making a move for Malik. He positively gushed with praise for Gee. N.O. is in need of some good cheap young talent, and if the Spurs are going to release him, you'd think Demps would give him a call, at least.

07-29-2010, 07:52 AM	#42
Leonard Curse Believe. Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $9050 Post Count: 322	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? im mad, but its more disappointing that was a huge/long investment and a big waste of time and space for others who would of been drafted!! maybe this means anderson is playing SF?

07-29-2010, 07:55 AM	#43
Truth4sale$ Believe. Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $1700 Post Count: 12	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? As I am neither a Hariston Hater or supporter I think this hurts the Spurs. Hariston's loss will be huge. As of right now on the current roster their is NOBODY who can play above average defense at the SG/SF position with the exception of Manu. I don't include Hill because he is a combo SG/PG. This shows that with Popovich, he either loves you or loses faith in you. You can man up (G.Hill) or regress / get lost (Manhimi). Critics can say Malik can't shoot or has poor ballhandling but that was good enough for Popovich to play Bogans. Perhaps Malik was told to go over to Europe because he was not quite ready yet. He had no Dleague eligibility left. Perhaps the spurs still own his rights like the Hawks owned Childress. Either way, Malik will get better playing time and hopefully he works on his game and is back here in two years. By then he will be a euro-veteran and he should get some playing time for sure. Good luck!

07-29-2010, 07:59 AM	#44
SenorSpur Hawaii 5-0 Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $85050 Post Count: 11,324	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Great. Let's just go out and try to outscore the opposition on a nightly basis. While other WC teams are getting tougher and more physical, the Spurs are becoming more and more of a finesse team. Now the Spurs don't have a single perimeter defender on the team. How the hell is this team supposed to be any better defensively when they have nothing but poor defenders all around? It's officlal. Pop has morphed into Don Nelson and the Spurs are now the Golden State Warriors South. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Duncan comes out this season and shows off his new offensive weapon - 3pt shot a la Mehmet Okur. Sheesh!

07-29-2010, 08:12 AM	#45
benefactor lol 40 million Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $64800 Post Count: 8,847	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? OV's head is going to explode when he logs on and sees this.

07-29-2010, 08:13 AM	#46
ceperez Can't Start Threads Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $18000 Post Count: 799	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Let's try to construct the F.O. reasoning here: (1) Rookies who never play a day in the D-league remain in the team (example: Hill, Blair). (2) Rookies who have been assigned to play exclusively in the D-league never make the team (example: Hairston, Mahinmi) (3) D-league players (example: Gee, Temple) who are signed stay in the team IF they never get re-assigned to the D-league. D-league play is the kiss of death if you ever previously got suited up in the Spurs uniform. Or stated in another way, no legit Spurs player ever gets assigned to the D-league.

07-29-2010, 08:20 AM	#47
Anonymous Cowherd from across the pond Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $5300 Post Count: 101	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? time to remove "Rumor" from the thread title

07-29-2010, 08:32 AM	#48
kobyz Believe. Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $69938 Post Count: 867	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? it's good i prefer Gee!

07-29-2010, 08:38 AM	#49
SenorSpur Hawaii 5-0 Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $85050 Post Count: 11,324	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by ceperez D-league play is the kiss of death if you ever previously got suited up in the Spurs uniform. Or stated in another way, no legit Spurs player ever gets assigned to the D-league. So exactly WHERE is the developmental advantage? Somewhere Dennis Johnson is rolling over in his grave?

07-29-2010, 08:43 AM	#50
DPG21920 Don't Suck. Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $1035245 Post Count: 19,267	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Lame. Let's see what the spurs have planned to fill the massive defensive hole at sf.

07-29-2010, 08:45 AM	#51
Solid D Mr. Dignity Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $59850 Post Count: 20,334	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Best wishes for Malik in Italy. He's a great player who should excel there with his slashing, energy and hops. I'm sure he'll enjoy knocking a few off the rim and getting away with it. Gee is the obvious choice to replace Hairston's role with some time in Austin. The Spurs still need a SF and a Big going into training camp. Garrett Temple, if you think about it, may have made Hairston expendable. Garrett is 6-6, can play 3 positions, and is an excellent defender - every bit as good a defender on the perimeter as Malik Hairston has been. The Spurs may still make a play for a vet. If they don't, then Pop is really sold on giving lots of floor time to Anderson and Temple. _____________________________ How 'bout a little help on D, up in here?

07-29-2010, 08:45 AM	#52
AFBlue Original "Grizzly" Blair Fan Club Member Team: San Antonio Spurs SpursTalk Cash: $51425 Post Count: 7,188	Re: Rumor: Hairston to Montepaschi? Originally Posted by SenorSpur So exactly WHERE is the developmental advantage? Somewhere Dennis Johnson is rolling over in his grave? Dude, he's giving you a fairly weak logic-based argument and you're getting emotional. Look at the sample size...you really think that 2 players in each category over three years is really enough to establish a trend? And what about Gee...you can't compare him to Temple b/c he's never played a minute with the big club. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the Spurs make this move now, prior to training camp where they could've legitimately seen if Hairston or Gee was better for the ballclub. This tells me one of two things... 1) Spurs just didn't feel that Hairston was worth the guaranteed money he was owed and cut him. 2) Hairston requested to be released so that he could sign with another team for more money and opportunity to play.

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