It isn't desperation that is running through my mind, but thoughts of you getting more than creepy on me or my family. I'm not kidding.
Add that to your list of logical fallacies.
I don't know you did not rape anyone, maybe I should post this about you? I have never followed anyone around the Internet to harass them, while this has been done to me. The only thing creepy is when you believe lies stated about me where I was censored from replying.
More libel, you really have lost it.
Things that have really happened to me,
1. Contacting my ISP in attempts to have my website shut down.
2. Threatening emails sent to me. (forwarded to the FBI)
3. Harassing phone calls made to me. (referred to the police)
4. Cyberstalking me on the Internet.
Last edited by Poptech; 05-04-2012 at 12:10 AM.
He says greenfyre is run by an associate of ecoterrorists. Sourcewatch is run by communist sympathizers.
I'm somewhat taken aback.
Greenfyre = Founder of Earth First! chapter in Ottawa, Canada
Earth First! = Members commit eco-terrorism in the name of Earth First!
Greenfyre = Associated with eco-terrorists
Willi ed the edit up on this one.
Last edited by FuzzyLumpkins; 05-04-2012 at 12:47 AM.
The link that you cited doesn't say that anywhere.
You are one ed up weirdo, monkey.
Yes it does, FuzzyDumbkins.
Last edited by Poptech; 05-04-2012 at 12:58 AM.
What evidence do you have that the greenfyre blogger is who you say he is?
All harmless fun right?
Militant Environmentalists Planning Summer Protests to Save Redwoods (The New York Times, June 19, 1990)
Their group is Earth First and their cause is the environment, but not in the way of the Sierra Club or the Audubon Society. Members of Earth First are militant environmentalists. Some sit on platforms to block the cutting of trees; others advocate sabotage against developers and loggers. [...]
Earth First members have little use for tactics of the Sierra Club and other mainstream groups - they call them ''couch potato environmentalists'' -who concentrate on letter-writing campaigns, lobbying and lawsuits.
''I believe in confrontational demonstrations,'' said Lisa Bregger ...She said every political movement needs a vanguard willing to engage in zealous and even illegal action. ''There is a need for an extreme element.'' [...]
Mr. Cherney, 33, was born in New York City and moved here in the mid-1980's ''to learn to live off the land and to save the world.'' He became the movement's troubadour, ...He has advocated sabotage activites against developers and loggers, a practice he calls ''ecotage.'' [...]
Earth First in the past has endorsed tree ing, the placement of long metal es in trees to discourage their being cut down. Loggers and mill workers have been injured when their saws hit these es. [...]
Mr. Cherney has expressed sympathy for the sabotage of developers' bulldozers and for an anonymous group that recently downed power lines near Santa Cruz, causing an extensive loss of power. ''The sabotage of equipment is no different than the French sabotage of the equipment of Hitler,'' he said. ''It was self-defense.''
Vandals Force Closing of New Golf Course (The New York Times, August 11, 1991)
Vandals identifying themselves with the militant environmental group Earth First have forced the closing of a new golf course by writing messages on the greens.
Using a chemical that the authorities have yet to identify, the vandals wrote, "Earth First!," "Hayduke lives" and "Ron you pig" on 11 greens and several tees at the course sometime last week, Undersheriff Sky Walters said Friday.
Hayduke was one of a group of eco-terrorists in Edward Abbey's book "The Monkey Wrench Gang." The name Ron apparently referred to Ron Allred, president of Telluride Ski Resort Inc., which owns the course. [...]
Three weeks ago The Telluride Times Journal received a letter signed "Earth First" saying the development's high-speed ski lift had been sabotaged. The letter writer said a welding gas that weakens metal had been applied to the lift cable.
Man Gets 6 Years in Plot to Damage A-Plants (The New York Times, September 8, 1991)
A member of the militant environmental group Earth First has been sentenced by a Federal judge to six years in prison for his role in a conspiracy to damage nuclear power and weapons plants in three states. [...]
Mr. Davis acknowledged his actions and told the judge that he took responsibility for them. But he also said he had been trying to protect himself and others against what he saw as the potentially deadly danger of nuclear plants.
Try clicking on "About",
"My name is Mike Kaulbars FCD and most of my net activity is under my own name or as ‘greenfyre’, so a search engine will tell you far more than you ever wanted to know."
Yes it will,
The Truth about Greenfyre
KK, now for the connection between Mr. Kaulbers and and Earth First.All harmless fun right?
Militant Environmentalists Planning Summer Protests to Save Redwoods (The New York Times, June 19, 1990)
Vandals Force Closing of New Golf Course (The New York Times, August 11, 1991)
Man Gets 6 Years in Plot to Damage A-Plants (The New York Times, September 8, 1991)
Try clicking on "About",
"My name is Mike Kaulbars FCD and most of my net activity is under my own name or as ‘greenfyre’, so a search engine will tell you far more than you ever wanted to know."
Yes it will,
The Truth about Greenfyre
This is all on the page,
Earth First! takes protests to new level Public arrests, office invasions all part of group's quick-hit tactics (Waterloo Region Record, December 1, 1990)
Mike Kaulbars, a founder of the Earth First! chapter in Ottawa, says his group has about 20 "hard-core" members, and perhaps 80 who are drawn in for special events such as protests.
The premise to your ad hominem is valid. He indeed is an associate of Earth First. I have to say your obsession is disconcerting.
and lol editing the part about the girl getting blown up being exonerated out of my post.
Did I bring her up? I did not include that incident because the damage was self-inflicted. Though I suppose it is normal behavior for environmentalists to ride around with pipe bombs.
Its in your smear article about the greenfyre guy that you keep linking.
You know she won a $4.4m settlement over the arrest and all that right?
They made a movie about her. I bet you hated it. What did you think of it?
Oh really? Quote it. The information in my article is factually accurate, fully sourced and not a smear.
Strawman. Please focus on arguments I actually make not ones you make using your imagination.
Last edited by Poptech; 05-04-2012 at 03:48 AM.
Calling people eco-terrorists and communists is a smear.
Its the definition of a smear, monkey.A smear campaign, smear tactic or simply smear is a metaphor for activity that can harm an individual or group's reputation by conflation with a stigmatized group.
And thats not a strawman. If you want to call it something call it a false premise. I make no argument over the premise.
http://www.sfbg.com/2012/04/05/who-b...-bari?page=0,0Cherney was in the car with Bari, a fellow environmental activist from Earth First, when a pipe bomb wrapped with nails exploded, maiming Bari and leaving Cherney with serious injuries.
It was 1990, and the two were in Oakland on their way to speak about the upcoming Redwood Summer, three months of picketing, tree-sitting, and otherwise blocking the clear-cutting of the California redwoods.
The Redwood Summer went on, but not before Bari and Cherney were arrested: The Oakland Police Department said they had constructed the bomb themselves and were transporting it in the back seat.
Before Bari and Cherney went to trial, it became clear that the bomb had been under the front seat (Exhibit A: Bari's shattered pelvis and the unscathed backseat), and that there was absolutely no evidence Bari or Cherney had known it was there, and the charges were dropped. But the true culprit was never found.
In 2002, Cherney sued the FBI for attempting to frame him and Bari (who died of breast cancer in 1997), and won. But he's still set on testing the remaining evidence for DNA.
lol about editing your strawman argument out of your post.
What happened to "Its in your smear article about the greenfyre guy that you keep linking."? Still can't defend your lies? This is getting embarrassing for you.
Calling someone an eco-terrorist is not a smear if they fit the definition:
ecoterrorist (defined) "a person who uses violence in order to achieve environmentalist aims"
Quote where I called someone a communist in my articles.
Dumbkins, there was no smear as everything I stated was factually correct. I did not call him an eco-terrorist. I called him a "radical environmental activist".
It was a strawman argument but you edited your post and removed the evidence. I never brought her up and you failed to quote where I did here or in my article. Your failures are adding up.
This is the thing that gets me.
You sit there and post this from random site describing someone associated with sourcewatch as:
you head the article withShe currently serves as Vice President of Communications at the Ms. Foundation for Women, and was formerly a Senior Vice President at Fenton Communications and a Communications Director for the Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador (CISPES). Part of the Soviet-controlled World Peace Council, CISPES was established in America in 1980 by high-ranking members of the Salvadoran Communist Party and Cuban intelligence to support El Salvador's murderous guerrilla bands and to influence American public opinion through protests and one-sided disinformation.
then you scrounge up a newspaper article from over 20 years ago that says that another one of your blogging rivals was a member of this Earth First group and then proceed to scrounge up list a whole slew of articles describing how Earth First was a bunch of eco-terrorists that have done all of these horrible things the most of egregious of which resulted in a dropped charge that you don't mention.
and then you do not even have the stones to admit that you are calling them a communist or eco-terrorists. You are a cowardly bag, monkey.
Still cannot find any quote where I called ANYONE a communist in my articles? It is really hard to watch you fail like this over and over.
Yes, we have went over this in detail. I use a recognized socialist image to emphasize their anti-capitalist views.you head the article with
"Scrounge up", you mean do accurate research. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Again, with your strawman argument. I never claimed this was their most egregious nor do I consider it that. I consider attempting to sabotage Nuclear power plants on a slightly higher level.
Dumbkins, when you can actually produce a quote of me saying this instead of just lying about it let me know. You are now doubling down on your failures. Don't get so angry because you keep failing.
You have been proven to make up already about people you disagree with to any reasonable measurement.
I remain committed to intellectual honesty, but I am seriously contemplating putting you on ignore.
I will not answer your question, until you admit your strawman.
"his" = "itsnotnova"
This guy has some disturbing parallels with Cosmored. Smarter to be sure, but the same weasely, paranoid, moving from forum to forum, collecting "enemies", inability to admit fault or weakness in his arguments, etc.This is the thing that gets me.
You sit there and post this from random site describing someone associated with sourcewatch as:
you head the article with
then you scrounge up a newspaper article from over 20 years ago that says that another one of your blogging rivals was a member of this Earth First group and then proceed to scrounge up list a whole slew of articles describing how Earth First was a bunch of eco-terrorists that have done all of these horrible things the most of egregious of which resulted in a dropped charge that you don't mention.
and then you do not even have the stones to admit that you are calling them a communist or eco-terrorists. You are a cowardly bag, monkey.
If you read through the "Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio" thread, the parallels become a lot clearer.
Cosmored gets booted for spamming, PopTech, seems to get booted for generally being an ass, and perhaps worse.
The truth of AGW's potentially catastrophic impacts is not affected by the quality of it's skeptics, but when those skeptics start exihibiting genuinely less than sane behavior, you should subject their claims to a great deal of careful scrutiny before accepting them as valid.Ack, I missed your PopTart wars, but reading “Andrew Banned: An Example of Needless Intimidation and Random Hate” it sure sounds all too familiar. Maybe we should pool our collective PopTart Droppings in one huge dungpile (crank.dot.net?) so that other bloggers can ban him right away & just link the heap so anyone who cares to will know what they are missing.
This goes for the people that are unable to provide first hand accounts of people faking moon landings as well as for those who are unable to show how their own skeptics are being unfair.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 05-04-2012 at 08:43 AM. Reason: clarity
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