Nice find, but of course it will be dismissed for some erroneous reason.
There are no skeptics in AGW science. Skepticism, which all, scientists should be, are tared and feathered in the climate community.
Will you stop with the changing topic on your replies pleas. When you said volume, that includes the ice over land. I'm referring to Greenland and Antarctica. There have been reports of Greenland's geothermal levels increasing. I don't know about Antarctica.
Geothermal affects ice sheets and glaciers more than atmospheric temperature. Melts them from the bottom. Makes them more pliable to flow faster as well.
Haven't they taught you that fact in you classes?
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You're now saying that sea ice doesn't have volume?
just gets better and better with each reply.
I didn't say that either.You're now saying that sea ice doesn't have volume?
I was wondering if I switched topics. With the loss of previous quotes on replies, it's hard to keep up.
Now I did just recently clarify Greenland and Antarctica... didn't I.
I'll bet you're an expert at Twister.
Yeah, scientists never considered water vapor.
Sea ice has no volume.
Geothermal activity is melting sea ice
PS
The ocean is like a soda.
There was no focus on it in the video. Only CO2.Yeah, scientists never considered water vapor.
I never said that. that is you lying about what I say.Sea ice has no volume.
I specified land ice. Why are you so stupid?Geothermal activity is melting sea ice
Do you realize how big of an idiot your are being?PS
The ocean is like a soda.
Oh well if there was no mention of it in one youtube video certainly scientists have never considered it.
Yeah, I'm being a huge idiot, WC. I realize it.
The no mention does matter. H2O is the strongest greenhouse gas. It is a lie by omission, making the viewer think that only increased CO2 can be the cause. Any starting changes in the earths temperature will increase the H2O content in the air also.Oh well if there was no mention of it in one youtube video certainly scientists have never considered it.
Yeah, I'm being a huge idiot, WC. I realize it.
CO2 changes by what? Around 50%? H2O changes by more than that. If we go to the alarmist belief that CO2 increases temperature by 3C for doubling, then a 50% increase is about a 1C increase for CO2. However, the forcing of water vapor is at least 3 times that of CO2. Doubling of water vapor is at least 9C then.
Have you ever seen how the Water vapor content in the air changes over the earth during these long term changes?
Did anyone even consider asking why is supported what I said?
Carefully consider the qualifiers and assumptions used in those studies.
Poor Fuzzy cannot handle the volume of science supporting skeptic arguments so he has to lie about and smear those who bested him in debates. People can read your failure to out debate me here, you will have to live with it.
Which cartoonist is that John Cook from Skeptical Science or Peter Sinclair AKA "Greenman" from YouTube? Unlike you Darrin prefers his science from climatologists like Richard Lindzen, Patrick Michaels, John Christy and Roy Spencer. As has been established here, someone with a Ph.D. in a scientific field relevant to the subject or who has published on the subject is more likely to be knowledgeable about this subject. "Cartoonist" is not a scientific profession.
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RSS looks superior in showing the 14-year cooling trend,
Then again so does HADCRU,
Last edited by Poptech; 05-13-2012 at 01:34 AM.
I'm not laughing about you being an idiot. I just hope you money being spent on a college education will get you somewhere. Who do you plan to work for anyway? An AGW team who any wants "yes men" who do and say what they want without question?
Yeah, I'm being a huge idiot, WC. I realize it.
Good, he doesn't know what he is missing.
I think i am just going to troll Poptech and post that survey he was kind enough to fill out for us.
I really liked the part where he has no delusions but says that he thinks he has aspbergers similar to a billionaire hedge fund manager. I am surprised he didn't go with high functioning autism and Richard Dreyfuss.
http://www.defendmy.com/personality_disorder/85355/Misdiagnosing Personality Disorders as Asperger's Disorder
In contrast, the Asperger's patient, though verbose at times (and taciturn on other occasions) has a far more limited range of tediously repe ive topics. People with Asperger's fail to observe conversational rules and etiquette (for instance, let others speak in turn). The Asperger's patient is unaware and, therefore, unable to decipher body language and external social and nonverbal cues and gestures. He is incapable of monitoring his own misbehavior. Psychopaths, narcissists, borderlines, schizotypals, histrionics, paranoids, and schizoids are similarly inconsiderate - but they control their behavior and are fully cognizant of reactions by others. They simply choose to ignore these data.
James Robert Brasic, MD, MPH (2003) Pervasive Developmental Disorder: Asperger Syndrome Sam Vaknin ( http://samvak.tripod.com ) is the author of Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited and After the Rain - How the West Lost the East. He served as a columnist for Central Europe Review, Global Politician, PopMatters, eBookWeb , and Bellaonline, and as a United Press International (UPI) Senior Business Correspondent. He was the editor of mental health and Central East Europe categories in The Open Directory and Suite101.
12 year trend using 14 years of data.
Because Michael Burry is brilliant and Richard Dreyfuss is an idiot.I really liked the part where he has no delusions but says that he thinks he has aspbergers similar to a billionaire hedge fund manager. I am surprised he didn't go with high functioning autism and Richard Dreyfuss.
It is never too late to seek treatment Fuzzy.Psychosis is a symptom or feature of mental illness typically characterized by radical changes in personality, impaired functioning, and a distorted or nonexistent sense of objective reality.
Patients suffering from psychosis have impaired reality testing; that is, they are unable to distinguish personal subjective experience from the reality of the external world. They experience delusions that they believe are real, and may behave and communicate in an inappropriate and incoherent fashion. Psychosis may appear as a symptom of a number of mental disorders, including mood and personality disorders. It is also the defining feature of schizophrenia, schizophreniform disorder, schizoaffective disorder, delusional disorder, and the psychotic disorders (i.e., brief psychotic disorder, shared psychotic disorder, psychotic disorder due to a general medical condition, and substance-induced psychotic disorder).
With regard to substance abuse, several different research groups reported in 2004 that cannabis (marijuana) use is a risk factor for the onset of psychosis.
Psychotic symptoms and behaviors are considered psychiatric emergencies, and persons showing signs of psychosis are frequently taken by family, friends, or the police to a hospital emergency room. A person diagnosed as psychotic can be legally hospitalized against his or her will, particularly if he or she is violent, threatening to commit suicide, or threatening to harm another person. A psychotic person may also be hospitalized if he or she has become malnourished or ill as a result of failure to feed, dress appropriately for the climate, or otherwise take care of him- or herself.
Last edited by Poptech; 05-13-2012 at 05:53 AM.
Good typo catch, thank you.
Last edited by Poptech; 05-13-2012 at 04:51 AM.
Isn't a lot of the data collected by these scientists just estimates? I mean didn't America only start keeping records of temperatures in the 1900s or 1800s? And what about the rest of the world? Are you going to tell me that some barbarian man wrote down the temperature every day so future generations would know? I just laugh at these scientists that tell me 100 percent without any doubt that this year or some year was the warmest year ever. How the do they know that? Are they all knowing or something? Do they know everything? Where did they get the power to be all knowing?
A scientist has told you that it was the hottest year ever? Really now?
If you dig down a few feet in an area, and suddenly find the remains of creatures that only live in deserts, but the area you are in has a modern temperate forest climate, you can infer a great deal about what the temperature range was in that area when those creatures lived and died.
That is just an example, but there are ways in which we can construct records that give us a pretty good idea as to what the world looked like in the past using these kinds of things, called a "proxy" for temperature.
This will not be as exact on a year to year basis as recorded measurements, but it can provide some pretty accurate guesses, especially when you get multiple lines of evidence compiled that reinforce each other.
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