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I find it dumb that you don't.
Other posters try to back up what they say, when requested. Why can't you?
Well then how bout you tell me how allowing them to stay or doing anything OTHER THAN enforcing immigration laws is "righteous" to the working class american or millions of immigrants who came here legally? Good luck with that I'll be waiting.
I find it dumb that you don't.
Other posters try to back up what they say, when requested. Why can't you?
because whenever you google "illegal immigrant net impact on tax payer" I don't know which of the 1,000,000 case studies to choose.
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Oooh. Personal anecdotes. Call the president.
That showed me.
Now what percentage of illegal immigrants does this sample represent, and is it a valid statistical sample that can be used to accurately draw conclusions from?
Google illegal immigrant net impact on tax payer
illegal immigrant net impact on tax payer
Do tell. A million studies.Search About 116,000 results (0.22 seconds)
Pick one.
in a town of 8,000 i know of over 100 illegal b3aners and i dont even know that many Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_s, not hte most scientific poll ever but you're crazy if you think illegals don't go to school. what do you think all the fuss over the dream act was about? millions of b3eaners get their associates or 4 year in hopes of some day gaining amnesty.
I googled it as suggested. This was the first one.
http://immigration.procon.org/view.a...stionID=000788
FWIW:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cos...al-immigrants/
Most "studies" are rather questionable and sloppy, from what I have seen on the subject, and that seems to jibe with factchecks impression as well. A few are fairly well done, but still flawed.So, how much do illegal immigrants cost federal, state and local governments in the U.S.? Estimates vary widely, and no consensus exists. The Urban Ins ute put the net national cost at $1.9 billion in 1992; a Rice University professor, whose work the Urban Ins ute criticized, said it was $19.3 billion in 1993. More recently, a 2007 report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office examined 29 reports on state and local costs published over 15 years in an attempt to answer this question. CBO concluded that most of the estimates determined that illegal immigrants impose a net cost to state and local governments but "that impact is most likely modest." CBO said "no agreement exists as to the size of, or even the best way of measuring, that cost on a national level."
The most comprehensive study that I have read listed the long term economic impact of each illegal immigrant at a NPV of something like $67,000. Been a while since I read it, but I can probably find it again eventually. It makes for good reading, as the author considers the future cash flows resulting from that immigrant and the US citizens they give birth to, which is something that a lot of the studies you will try citing don't consider.
what would be the discount rate in such a study, the average rate of inflation?
Didn't Carole Keeton Strayhorn have an economic impact report for the State of Texas when she was comptroller?
Funny if you read that that the "pro" (anti-immigrant) side is written by think tanks, and the "con" (immigrants are not a net cost to the economy) is PhD's like say, Alan Greenspan.
Just sayin'.
And on that note, my wife says to quit arguing with people on the internet and spend some time with her.
As I dimly seem to recall the official results for Texas a few years ago, do not comport with the trend you have alleged, YH.
FWIW, the wealth of research on the suggested search term with the 1,000,000 case studies to chose from... results in this very thread as the 7th hit.
I am merely relating what I can remember.
You are the one making assertions with no support, and you have avoided answering several direct questions.
Your sample of three people from all the "illegal immigrants" (I assume you knew for certain they were illegal) represents what percentage of illegal immigrants in the US?
As a statistical sample, is this sufficient to draw conclusions about the number of illegal immigrants attending college "on the taxpayers dime"?
Is it even a valid statistical sample?
Bet you could even find it on Spurstalk if you really cared so much.
That happens more often than one might think. wife is hurumphing... really gotta go.
But those Think Tanks are The Federation for American Immigration Reform and The Center for Immigration Studies, both of which have the word IMMIGRATION right in their names! Clearly they know better.
because you got some silly excuse
Non-issue. Nothing that can't be fixed by shooting some brown dudes in the border, tbh.
/WC
The owner should be behind bars. That means he wasn't paying his fair share in insurances, and payroll taxes.
WTF...
Outsourcing labor locally is every bit as evil as outsourcing our jobs to Asia.
Do you have a clue to what you are saying?
You just won't let that go. I want deterrents that people will respect. It doesn't mean we have to shoot those crossing the border illegally, but if it comes to that, I say yes. They are foreign invaders.
They paid their workers cash. Those workers don't collect from the unemployment insurance funds, and don't contribute.
Nothing for nothing sounds like a fair exchange for me.
Neither will those workers ever collect Social Security.
Again, a nothing for nothing exchange.
As the CBO noted, the overall impact, to the best anyone has ever been able to determine, is "modest".
Over the long run, given that their kids will get legitimate, tax-paying, jobs and will be paying into the SS system that you will be benefitting from in a decade or two, you probably shouldn't be ing about a "fair exchange".
Why do you hate the free market? Sounds like you want some socialist policies to prevent this "evil". Is that what you are saying?
Sorry, we don't need illegal immigration. Legal immigration would be fine.
We also don't need rape or floods, but some sex and rain would be nice on occasion.
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