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    Is the war on copyrights... and it will include wiretaps...

    White House wants new copyright law crackdown

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    WH wants what the media producers lawyers tell them to want.

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    C'mon boutons. You can do better than that. Work a "repug" or VRWC in there.

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    federal felony?

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    ...and the march toward everyone being a criminal goes on.

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    ...and the march toward everyone being a criminal goes on.
    so you don't think copyright infringement should be a crime?

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    so you don't think copyright infringement should be a crime?
    I don't think copyright infringement should make a person a felon

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    so you don't think copyright infringement should be a crime?
    With all due respect, this is like asking "Don't you think drugs should be illegal?" if the President sought to classify ginseng as an illegal drug.

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    I don't think copyright infringement should make a person a felon
    At first glance, I was thinking the same thing, but I'm open to hearing some cases that the WH and law enforcement officials feel should justify a felony charge.

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    With all due respect, this is like asking "Don't you think drugs should be illegal?" if the President sought to classify ginseng as an illegal drug.
    no disrespect taken. I have no working knowledge of how bad illegal downloading/streaming is or isn't.

    I also don't follow your analogy at all. What would be the copyright infringement equivalent of ginseng?

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    I also have to ask, why is the Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator at a public event with the VP wearing a low cut sleeveless dress made from a picnic tablecloth ?


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    To me, the enforcement of the copyright laws should be inverse to the length of the copyrights, which they keep changing the laws to extend. Short copyrights? Sure, throw the book at them. Long copyrights? Maybe a traffic ticket kind of thing.

    Copyrights were never intended to be forever, or even long term.

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    Just another Jobs Bill. Have to have someplace to give loyal democrats jobs that lost elections.

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    Just another Jobs Bill. Have to have someplace to give loyal democrats jobs that lost elections.
    really?

    how many jobs do you think this 'jobs bill' will create?

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    really?

    how many jobs do you think this 'jobs bill' will create?
    How many politicians are losing their positions?

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    How many politicians are losing their positions?
    I don't know, how many?

    and are they all getting copyright infringement enforcement jobs?

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    Copyrights were never intended to be forever, or even long term.

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    At first glance, I was thinking the same thing, but I'm open to hearing some cases that the WH and law enforcement officials feel should justify a felony charge.
    Extremely rich people are making less money than they used to.

    Justified.

    Haven't you lived here a while now?

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    Extremely rich people are making less money than they used to.

    Justified.

    Haven't you lived here a while now?
    Theft is still theft, or has that changed recently?

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    Theft is still theft, or has that changed recently?
    Well, except that it's not theft since nothing is being stolen. Something is being duplicated without authorization.

    That's why its called "copyrights"; the right to copy something.

    To call it "theft" is factually incorrect.

    Yes, copyright infringement has always been illegal.

    No, it's never been a felony.

    When someone uses a copyrighted music clip in their Youtube video, they could potentially be prosecuted as a felon. Do you understand how outrageous that is?

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    Theft is still theft, or has that changed recently?
    Theft is still theft, which is not copyright infringement. A different crime, with different penalties, and seemingly now requiring wiretaps and the government acting as the enforcement branch of private companies.

    I just would like to know how much of my tax payer dollars are going to this IP czar position and investigations on behalf of Sony or MGM...

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    Well, except that it's not theft since nothing is being stolen. Something is being duplicated without authorization.

    That's why its called "copyrights"; the right to copy something.

    To call it "theft" is factually incorrect.

    Yes, copyright infringement has always been illegal.
    legally speaking, it's not theft.

    realistically, it is.

    No, it's never been a felony.

    When someone uses a copyrighted music clip in their Youtube video, they could potentially be prosecuted as a felon. Do you understand how outrageous that is?
    so you think that Youtube videos with illegally used music clips are what the govt will be attempting to prosecute as felonies?

    Doubtful, imo.

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    I just would like to know how much of my tax payer dollars are going to this IP czar position and investigations on behalf of Sony or MGM...
    I'd like to know specifics on who they'd like to bring to justice.

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    legally speaking, it's not theft.

    realistically, it is.
    No.

    Legally, literally, physically...pretty much any way you want to put it, it's not theft, because nothing is being taken from anyone. It's just being duplicated without their authorization.

    People who compare it to breaking in to a store and stealing jewelry are therefore ing idiots. I truly pray that you understand why.



    so you think that Youtube videos with illegally used music clips are what the govt will be attempting to prosecute as felonies?

    Doubtful, imo.
    Doubtful?

    You wouldn't think that the RIAA would sue websites for $1,600,000,000,000 or 12-year-old girls, would you? Pretty doubtful too, right?

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    I'd like to know specifics on who they'd like to bring to justice.
    Guys like the channelsurfing.net owner?

    Now, you explain to me why the government has to foot the bill for this instead of Disney, News Corp, etc?

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