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I would really hope both Bertans and Hanga could join the team this summer and work their way into rotation by the following year
That would be good to know. I thought I read where he was locked up until the summer of 2014.
He'll have to bulk up quite a bit to play PF by the look of him. All his highlights seem to show him playing the perimeter. Not sure he has the build to bang on the inside. I'd be fine with him just playing SF. Probably not enough speed for the faster SFs in the league, but then again the Spurs system funnel people to the help man. It would be on the offensive end where he would beast. Spreading the court or getting an isolation on his guy, he'd be a mismatched all game long. Keep your fingers crossed he keeps developing.
I would really hope both Bertans and Hanga could join the team this summer and work their way into rotation by the following year
That's an old quote. About a year ago, Bertans broke that contract and signed a new four-year deal. I'm not sure if that deal has any buyouts. If you read the rest of this thread, that's discussed a little bit.
Sorry, I've read this thread many, many times over... I quoted the wrong post (one post after the correct info... which didn't have the contract info)
So this is from ProjectSpurs.com: "The 20-year old Bertans recently signed a three-and-a-half-year contract with the Serbian team KK Partizan, so it is highly doubtful he will make his way to the NBA anytime soon."
Are they phrasing it in terms of the contract expiring halfway through the NBA season or do they actually sign players for half years? Weird in how they noted it... From what Bruno states, there would appear to be escape clauses in this contract, otherwise how would we be looking at having him join in '14?
Could he become a Peja? Seems to have a similar body type and skill set. Probably not the passer Peja was, and its unlikely he's as deadly a sharpshooter. Still, a tall Euro 3 point specialist
He signed midway through the 2011-2012 season. So the contract was for the rest of that year, and three more after that. The same source would probably have reported Baynes' deal as a 1.5 year contract.
To the actual topic, now that's it's getting to the mid point of his deal, it's possible that a buyout could become relevant. I still doubt the Spurs will try to pry him away this off-season, but if he continues to improve, he has a great chance of coming over in 2014, especially if the Big Three era ends then.
Partizan ended up 4th in the Adriatic league and so, if they don't win the final 4, they won't make the Euroleague next season. No Euroleague next season for Bertans might push Spurs to bring him over this summer.
From what I've seen, he definitely could use another year in Europe even if he only play the Adriatic league and the Eurocup. Spurs might disagree on that and using the Toros to develop him.
Hmmmm, I don't think I like this ... at all. Gives the feel that the great meal in the oven is being rushed... doesn't usually turn out great if you shortcut the process and try to just turn up the heat... Here's hoping that they win the final 4 and that he has another shot at developing for 1 more year in the Euroleague. The road to the NBA is littered with phenomenal talent that jumped for the brass ring a little too soon. Kids coming out of college early, etc. It's not just the talent, it's the maturity level as well, that plays a huge part in it. He won't get the same development in the D-League as in Euroleague. I'm pulling for the kid, we sure do need him, but only when he's ready...
If they get rid of Bonner then it makes plenty of sense to me, even tho he's more of a nba SF than PF.
I would not be so sure about that. The stats (http://www.in-the-game.org/stats.php...ayer&sub=bypos) show that he is much more productive at the 4 than the 3. Even though the lack of rebounding and shot blocking certainly are problems there. Right now he would struggle guarding either forward spot because he lacks the foot speed and strength to deal with NBA level athletes.
Joseph's development gives me hope that the Spurs could help Bertans reach the next level in Austin. If he were in the d-league, he'd be able to focus on the exact skills he needs to fit what the Spurs want to do. In Europe right now, he's developing in what ever way best serves his current team.
The issue for me would be what contract to give him. It needs to be long enough to give him up to two years in Austin (while not letting him leave as a free agent until at least year 3), but cheap enough to reflect his actual value during those years. Since Bertans can make money in Europe, he shouldn't feel pressured into signing a four-year, near-minimum deal like Blair did.
I really doubt the money is a problem for the Spurs and Bertrans. I would be very surprised if the didn't accept a Blair/Baynes 4 year minimum deal, as it is assuredly MUCH more than he can expect to make in Europe given his current level of development. The issue is the roster spot that the spurs would be committing to him. It might take 3 years in Austin before he's ready for the NBA....
Pretty impressive seeming.
The kid looks like a small forward to me. On offense he looks fast, with a good first step and, more than all, a very good and fast shoot from outside, also very good coming out of screens and with very good range (possibly from nba 3 point range). One problem, imho, is that his team looks very fast paced, while our is not; another should be his body strenght, that could be a problem on defense, but on that side I have to say that the problem if limited if he's gonna play small forward and, however, he looks a little better than last year (maybe that's just 'cause he is grown up). Anyway he is definitively looking like an option at the small forward for next year.
I watched a little of the Adriatic league final 4 and Bertans looked quite good. Partizan won their semi-final and because of some weird Euroleague rules, it's enough to qualify them for net season Euroleague. This qualification should push Spurs to let Bertans another year in Europe.
Edit: They just won the final 4 with again a good Bertans.
Last edited by Bruno; 04-27-2013 at 03:49 PM.
If he'll be able to play Euroleague ball, it's definitely worth keeping him over there. Also, the Spurs probably want to give him a contract similar to the one they gave Blair, which means using cap space or MLE. I think they'll want to go one big FA with cap space this year, then next year use MLE for depth player+ long term min deals.
It would be good for him to stay another year over in that league and get a little stronger still think he will stay a tweener SF/PF.
He would be the equivalent of a rising college junior. That is comparatively old for some prospects to be starting the NBA these days. Compared to the players in this draft at his age, I can't think of many that have a better game at this point in their development. I think he comes over sooner rather than later. It probably all turns on salary size and buyout amount (isn't he under contract for one more year?).
Manu and Splitter both came over at or older than 25 years old.
When bringing a player over it comes down to four things...Players Buyout, New Contract, Current Roster Contracts, And Can the Person Play.
Bertans will be in San Antonio between the end of the season with Partizan and the start of the Latvian NT campaign. He doesn't know where he will play next season.
Link (in Serbian): http://www.b92.net/sport/kosarka/ves...&nav_id=709370
OT: Spurs other euro draftee have also had a nice week end with 28 points for Hanga in Spain and 21 points, 7 assists for Denmon in France.
Last edited by Bruno; 04-28-2013 at 04:50 PM.
Pretty much.
Sometimes, the timing works out, other times (Scola, Giricek) it doesn't.
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