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    lol boutons screwing the 99%

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    so long as energy barons get screwed, the downstream wreckage hardly matters to boutons.

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    Raise gasoline to $8/gal with federal taxes over a 5 year period. That GOVT POLICY will give a huge push to hydrogen and electric vehicules, while also providing funds to investment in the federal highway system and regional high speed, fully electric rail.
    Yes, I understand your authoritarian ideals and intent. All it will do is hurt a significant percentage of the population that will be forced out of personal transportation due to extra costs. You will simply give more power to the 1%.

    Which side did you say you're on?

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    so long as energy barons get screwed, the downstream wreckage hardly matters to boutons.
    Wages may not trickle down, but most certainly does...

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    lol boutons screwing the 99%
    BigOil is already screwing the 99% and will screw them more as oil and gas decline even more.

    Better to fund PUBLIC investment to benefit the 99% (get something back for the taxes paid) rather than get nothing back other than stuff BigOil treasuries.

    The urbanization and de-exurbanizaton, and de-surburbanization of USA continues.

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    BigOil is already screwing the 99% and will screw them more as oil and gas decline even more.

    Better to fund PUBLIC investment to benefit the 99% (get something back for the taxes paid) rather than get nothing back other than stuff BigOil treasuries.

    The urbanization and de-exurbanizaton, and de-surburbanization of USA continues.
    I will suggest that most of us do not agree with your viewpoint to that extent. You are obviously blinded by your assumed noble ideals what the actual repercussion will be.

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    I will suggest that most of us do not agree with your viewpoint to that extent. You are obviously blinded by your assumed noble ideals what the actual repercussion will be.
    gas has gone up from lower $2+ to $3+ and rising in 4 years, and USA hasn't collapsed, but roads and bridges are deteriorating.

    When taxes were a of a lot higher in the 1950s, esp on the wealth and corps, Ike/Repugs started/built the Interstate highway system that is STILL paying back in the $Ts.

    btw, water, sewer, gas/oil pipelines are also 50+ years old, with no money to fix them.

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    gas has gone up from lower $2+ to $3+ and rising in 4 years, and USA hasn't collapsed, but roads and bridges are deteriorating.

    When taxes were a of a lot higher in the 1950s, esp on the wealth and corps, Ike/Repugs started/built the Interstate highway system that is STILL paying back in the $Ts.

    btw, water, sewer, gas/oil pipelines are also 50+ years old, with no money to fix them.
    Yeah cause $8, $10, $12/gal is exactly like $2, $3, $4/gal gas prices. :facepalm

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    Yeah cause $8, $10, $12/gal is exactly like $2, $3, $4/gal gas prices. :facepalm
    TB are they? really? the higher prices through fed taxes will induce different consumer behaviors, bring new, cleaner products to the market, and divert $100Bs from BigOil to the govt for investing for the 99%, not screw the 99%.

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    TB are they? really? the higher prices through fed taxes will induce different consumer behaviors, bring new, cleaner products to the market, and divert $100Bs from BigOil to the govt for investing for the 99%, not screw the 99%.
    An $8/gal gas tax will induce alot of behaviors....like not eating, not paying rent, or not driving to work/school. Thats a total screw job for the 99%. Good thinking. :facepalm

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    But, the 1% will hardly feel it so, good job!

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    An $8/gal gas tax will induce alot of behaviors....like not eating, not paying rent, or not driving to work/school. Thats a total screw job for the 99%. Good thinking. :facepalm
    all that is going to occur anyway, with ALL the $Ts go to BigOil rather than to govt and 99%. Taxes can change behavior in a manageable fashion, both by consumers and by producers. But, don't worry, BigOil won't let any of their $Ts be taxed away.

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    No, an $8/gal price hike is not going to "occur anyway". Just stop.

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    Again, a completely REGRESSIVE $8/gal gas tax is not the answer.

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    But, the 1% will hardly feel it so, good job!
    That's something I can't understand about boutons. Doesn't he realize such things affect the less privileged more?

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    the 99% are mainly a prop for boutons' outrage and self-importance. to the extent that he views them as powerless, helpless victims, he ignores their lives as actually lived and dehumanizes them in a way that is little distinguishable from the big bad exploiters he secretly envies.

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    winehole, I suggest you seek medical care for your butthurt

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    no thanks, I'm good.

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    Again, a completely REGRESSIVE $8/gal gas tax is not the answer.
    but you right wingers are all for flat income taxes with NO exceptions ( aka "skin in the game" for the working poor), and flat sales taxes that are both highly regressive

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    That's something I can't understand about boutons. Doesn't he realize such things affect the less privileged more?
    like your flat tax and consumption tax?

    there's LOTS of things you don't understand about LOTS of stuff

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    but you right wingers are all for flat income taxes with NO exceptions ( aka "skin in the game" for the working poor), and flat sales taxes that are both highly regressive
    lol @lazy conflation. Your one size fits all fails. I'm for none of those things. Could you be more intellectually lazy?

    No.

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    And your REGRESSIVE tax idea is still profoundly stupid.

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    And your REGRESSIVE tax idea is still profoundly stupid.
    there are ways to fix the regressivity, like there are in all regressive schemes.

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    Here's BigOil killing public transport:

    The Tennessee Senate passed a bill last week that, if approved, would broadly ban mass transit projects in the region, an anti-transit effort that’s gotten some help in the state from Charles and David Koch.

    On Thursday, the Tennessee Senate passed SB 2243, which includes an amendment that “prohibits metropolitan governments and any transit authorities created by a metropolitan government from constructing, maintaining or operating any bus rapid transit system using a separate lane, or other separate right-of-way, dedicated solely to the use of such bus rapid transit system on any state highway or state highway.” The amendment is aimed at Nashville’s proposed $174 million rapid bus system called the Amp, but would apply to any mass transit system proposed in Tennessee’s cities.

    The Amp, a proposed 7.1-mile bus rapid transit system that would cut commute times along one of Nashville’s major corridors, has been staunchly opposed by the Tennessee branch of Americans for Prosperity, a lobbying organization founded in part by the Koch brothers.

    “It would be hugely transformational,” McCall said of the Amp. “If we don’t do it now, we’re going to be so far behind, and it’s really going to start to hinder our economic development and growth.”

    “The Senate basically took a local project that has been in development for five years and voted an amendment to kill it,” Schatzlein said. “The project is the first leg of a regional transit system, so this vote impacts all of Middle Tennessee.”

    AFP has chapters in 35 states, and this isn’t the first time they’ve lobbied against local energy and transit initiatives.

    Last Summer in Georgia, AFP launched a “multi-pronged, grassroots driven initiative” that urged citizens to pressure members of the state’s Public Service Commission to reject an effort to require Georgia Power to expand its use of solar energy.

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...ers-tennessee/

    BigOil never met a 99%er it wouldn't screw.

    All y'all Kock suckers happy?



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    there are ways to fix the regressivity, like there are in all regressive schemes.
    Yeah...one way is not to ins ute such a ing regressive tax. You havent thought this through at all, per par.

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