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    Dors he value money more than a ring and a chance to play with a hall of famer and two potential candidates?
    I'm not sure that's even the real issue. This may be his last chance to play in the NBA. Guys rarely come over after 30. I can only think of Oberto, who had Manu here already, and Sabonis. He can come over and try the NBA, and if he doesn't like it, or the money isn't forthcoming, he can always go back. If he signs with CSKA, that's pretty much it for any NBA career for him.

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    I think prior posts made it sound like Lorbek values his finances more than the allure of playing in the NBA.

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    He is bargaining, I guess.
    Whoever offered him the most would get him.

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    Spurs should be more aggressive with getting him tbh

    Can't let Bonner taking more minutes in the playoffs.

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    He is bargaining, I guess.
    Whoever offered him the most would get him.
    If money is what he is basing this on, he'll be in Moscow next year.

    The Spurs don't throw big money at NBA unknowns. Manu took $1.4M/yr for 2 years when he signed, the amount of the LLE in 2002. You have to show SA something at the NBA level to get paid.

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    I figure we're just being used again. No surprise.

    The only thing worse than that is another season of Blair and Bonner.

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    Yeah that is the problem when drafting overseas players that if they start getting good then you could loose them to a team with bigger pockets. That is why I hope they could bring Adam Hanga over this year...he is going to be good..

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    Yeah that is the problem when drafting overseas players that if they start getting good then you could loose them to a team with bigger pockets. That is why I hope they could bring Adam Hanga over this year...he is going to be good..
    Hanga is young, though. He can make some dough in Europe, and still come over in his mid twenties like Manu did. Lorbek is way past that point. It's or get off the pot time, Razzy. What's it gong to be?

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    Hanga is young, though. He can make some dough in Europe, and still come over in his mid twenties like Manu did. Lorbek is way past that point. It's or get off the pot time, Razzy. What's it gong to be?
    Plus, Hanga can build his resume for a few more years like Manu, who basically won a silver medal at Indianapolis before coming over

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    The latest rumor is that CSKA, with their new coach Messina, has madea an offer to Lorbek:
    http://encestando.es/?p=33689

    If it's true, it isn't a good news at all for Spurs. CSKA is pretty much the team in Europe with the most money.
    It is if Diaw/Lorbek is the either/or proposition the vast majority have expected it to be for some time. I'd rather Diaw, if that's the case. Now, if their plan is for Splitter to be the centerpiece of a trade for an athletic, starting power forward, then I'd prefer Lorbek. But as it stands, I'll take the starting power forward, who's a virtual seamless fit over the third center, who's a questionable fit.

    With how small teams play now, I can't see Lorbek being able to defend power forwards in the NBA. This is why he's not the fit next to Duncan some think he is. The reason Pop doesn't play Duncan and Splitter together often is twofold. One is, as you said, the lack of spacing. But the other is he's clearly not comfortable with Splitter defending power forwards with any degree of consistency; and Splitter is more mobile than Lorbek. Even if he was comfortable with this idea, who would be the starting power forward? Blair? Then there's the whole adapting to the NBA game, learning the Spurs system, teammates and opponents tendencies, etc. It's not worth it, not at the expense of Diaw.

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    It is if Diaw/Lorbek is the either/or proposition the vast majority have expected it to be for some time. I'd rather Diaw, if that's the case. Now, if their plan is for Splitter to be the centerpiece of a trade for an athletic, starting power forward, then I'd prefer Lorbek. But as it stands, I'll take the starting power forward, who's a virtual seamless fit over the third center, who's a questionable fit.

    With how small teams play now, I can't see Lorbek being able to defend power forwards in the NBA. This is why he's not the fit next to Duncan some think he is. The reason Pop doesn't play Duncan and Splitter together often is twofold. One is, as you said, the lack of spacing. But the other is he's clearly not comfortable with Splitter defending power forwards with any degree of consistency; and Splitter is more mobile than Lorbek. Even if he was comfortable with this idea, who would be the starting power forward? Blair? Then there's the whole adapting to the NBA game, learning the Spurs system, teammates and opponents tendencies, etc. It's not worth it, not at the expense of Diaw.
    Sums it up.

    Seems clear that Lorbek won't sign the below market value contract represented by the BAE. Spurs can only get one of Diaw/Lorbek with the MLE. Diaw is the obvious choice.

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    Sums it up.

    Seems clear that Lorbek won't sign the below market value contract represented by the BAE. Spurs can only get one of Diaw/Lorbek with the MLE. Diaw is the obvious choice.
    Do you know how much CSKA offered?

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    Do you know how much CSKA offered?
    No idea.

    I'm making an assumption based on the respective reputations of Lorbek, Barca, and CSKA. If he's fielding offers from those teams, the 2yr/4M BAE won't get him to leave Europe.

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    Your assumption is probably correct but I can also remember this with Tiago and he signed for much less than most here thought possible.

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    CSKA have a load of money. They gave $4M per year last summer to Kristic. Lorbek should get about the same.

    At the end, it will depend on what is Lorbek priority. If it's money, he will go to CSKA (if the rumor of CSKA wanting him is real). If it's comfort, he will stay with Barcelona. If it's the basketball challenge, he will go to Spurs.

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    I can imagine Lorbek passing on more money (CSKA), and more comfort (Barca), in order to accept a Splitter-sized deal to take on the challenge of the NBA. I can't imagine him passing on those things for the BAE.

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    Sums it up.

    Seems clear that Lorbek won't sign the below market value contract represented by the BAE. Spurs can only get one of Diaw/Lorbek with the MLE. Diaw is the obvious choice.
    Yeah and unlike Splitter, Lorbek has never given the impression that the NBA was his first priority. He wasn't interested in coming period until the Spurs acquired his rights and even then, the interest has seemed lukewarm.

    And I take back the part where I said this: "Now, if their plan is for Splitter to be the centerpiece of a trade for an athletic, starting power forward, then I'd prefer Lorbek." I'd still take Diaw, because said athletic power forward could serve as the backup center at times and because the ideal role for Diaw is third big anyway. Plus, there's serviceable enough backup center options available in free agency.

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    He is obviously very talented, but I am not thrilled with him coming over. I have serious concerns about his game translating and he is a risk for the money likely involved. Spurs need to take risks, but I'd prefer it to be on someone atheltic and a little younger.

    I wouldn't be upset if he comes, but I am not super thrilled about it.

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    Well we have to do something cause Boner sure as going to lead us to the promise land...

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    Regarding how much it will cost to sign him, consider this

    http://twitter.com/DraftExpress/stat...58150333145090
    "Sign of the times: Both teams that earned promotion to Spanish 1st divison (ACB) will decline for financial reasons. Tough summer in store."

    Teams are declining promotion for financial reasons! I don't see anyone getting large offers in Europe this summer, and getting paid in US$ is looking much more attractive than Euros...

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    Regarding how much it will cost to sign him, consider this

    http://twitter.com/DraftExpress/stat...58150333145090
    "Sign of the times: Both teams that earned promotion to Spanish 1st divison (ACB) will decline for financial reasons. Tough summer in store."

    Teams are declining promotion for financial reasons! I don't see anyone getting large offers in Europe this summer, and getting paid in US$ is looking much more attractive than Euros...
    CSKA has a lot of money.........

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    Not sure if this helps/hurts Lorbek's chances but CSKA signed Zoran Erceg (PF/C)

    http://www.cskabasket.com/news/?id=11323&lang=en

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    Not sure what roster size restrictions are for INT teams, but currently, CSKA has 13 (they had 15 for '11-'12 season).

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    Then they are going to have to give him a load because it won't be worth much..pesos....

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    Emiliano Carchia ‏@SportandoBasket

    Ettore Messina said that the rumors about a €44M budget for CSKA are not true but he confirmed that CSKA will have one of the best budgets

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    Per Chad Ford: "Confirmed. 3 yrs, $15.675M Using MLE RT @HowardBeckNYT: Nets have reached deal in principle with Mirza Teletovic, source says.”

    Is this guy comparable to Lorbek? If so, it looks like the market price may have been set for Lorbek -- full MLE.

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