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  1. #121
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    Tell me why. Looking out for #1? Really? By holding up the big12 so it can't go try to expand and add new members? A&M is not staying, get over it.
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    Waiting for the legal wrangling to work itself out is not a denial.
    Sure it is. The SEC can instantly add the Aggies this second if they wanted to.

    Unless someone can show otherwise, afaik, there is no law, NCAA rule or contractual obligation stating that the SEC must wait based on threat of a lawsuit.

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    What's the statute of limitations here? I don't think it's one year.
    Doesn't matter. A&M leaves the conference the conference either survives without A&M or someone else leaves and the confrence dies. If the conference survives, Baylor doesn't have much of a case about A&M's departure causing them irreparable harm. If the conference dies, Baylor doesn't have much of a case because how do they prove it was A&M's departure who killed the conference as opposed to Nebraska, Colorado or whoever left after A&M did.

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    1. there's an infinitely small chance that the hold up might fuck up A&M's move to the SEC and force them back to the B12.....which is still a chance.

    2. they could end up with a cash settlement

    3. they could be simply wanting to fuck up the Aggies SEC celebration party that was scheduled this week.


    Tell me why they should go ahead and give the consent to not sue.

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    Doesn't matter. A&M leaves the conference the conference either survives without A&M or someone else leaves and the confrence dies. If the conference survives, Baylor doesn't have much of a case about A&M's departure causing them irreparable harm. If the conference dies, Baylor doesn't have much of a case because how do they prove it was A&M's departure who killed the conference as opposed to Nebraska, Colorado or whoever left after A&M did.
    What does it matter what they can prove? They will be suing the SEC, not A&M. It's all fucking posturing and it's hilarious.

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    Tell me why they should go ahead and give the consent to not sue.
    So this is about fucking up our celebration

    The conference has a better chance of surviving if they let us go and keep the remaining 9 happy and attempt to add. Last week you were saying how the BIG12 will be just fine without A&M and how nobody cares

    Now Baylor has a better chance of it surviving by threatning litigation? What happned to BYU? what a fuckin joke.

    I thought we were just a minor piece of the puzzle.

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    What's the statute of limitations here? I don't think it's one year.
    Baylor hasn't been damaged just yet.

    And if/when they do show that damage has been done, they will have to prove A&M was responsible.

    Hell, if UT, Tech, OU and OSU also bolt, there's no reason for Baylor to not sue all four of them either.

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    Doesn't matter. A&M leaves the conference the conference either survives without A&M or someone else leaves and the confrence dies. If the conference survives, Baylor doesn't have much of a case about A&M's departure causing them irreparable harm. If the conference dies, Baylor doesn't have much of a case because how do they prove it was A&M's departure who killed the conference as opposed to Nebraska, Colorado or whoever left after A&M did.
    pretty much.

    If the B12 sticks around for a while and the TV money remains the same after the Aggies go, it'll be next to impossible to pin anything on them.

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    What does it matter what they can prove? They will be suing the SEC, not A&M. It's all fucking posturing and it's hilarious.
    If it's all posturing then the statute of limitations still doesn't matter.

    And I agree with you that it's all posturing.

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    Doesn't matter. A&M leaves the conference the conference either survives without A&M or someone else leaves and the confrence dies. If the conference survives, Baylor doesn't have much of a case about A&M's departure causing them irreparable harm. If the conference dies, Baylor doesn't have much of a case because how do they prove it was A&M's departure who killed the conference as opposed to Nebraska, Colorado or whoever left after A&M did.
    Does the new tv contract signed last year include Nebraska or Colorado? If ATM would have left last season they could have gotten past all of this. Instead, they wait less than 1 year after signing a multi-year contract to break the contract. How do you not understand why Baylor would be upset at this?
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    So this is about fucking up our celebration

    The conference has a better chance of surviving if they let us go and keep the remaining 9 happy and attempt to add. Last week you were saying how the BIG12 will be just fine without A&M and how nobody cares

    Now Baylor has a better chance of it surviving by threatning litigation? What happned to BYU? what a fuckin joke.

    I thought we were just a minor piece of the puzzle.
    Tell me why they should give the consent to not sue.

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    pretty much.

    If the B12 sticks around for a while and the TV money remains the same after the Aggies go, it'll be next to impossible to pin anything on them.
    Aggy Network next year?

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    To keep the big 12 together... I thought you guys could go add BYU and never look back? At least that's what you were saying a week ago.

    A&M is not staying.

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    To keep the big 12 together... I thought you guys could go add BYU and never look back? At least that's what you were saying a week ago.

    A&M is not staying.
    Baylor thinks other wise...

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    To keep the big 12 together... I thought you guys could go add BYU and never look back? At least that's what you were saying a week ago.

    A&M is not staying.
    right.

    Tell me why Baylor should give the consent to not sue.

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    Only one program doesn't see it that way apparently.
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    To keep the big 12 together... I thought you guys could go add BYU and never look back? At least that's what you were saying a week ago.

    A&M is not staying.
    Who's the "you" in this?

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    Are you fucking retarded Blake? Every minute they keep threatning litigation and make A&M linger around here is ultimately hurting the chances the big12 stays together.

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    Who's the "you" in this?
    that was me.

    I said if the Big XII added someone like BYU to replace A&M, then things should still be ok from a TV contract standpoint.

    Problem now is that apparently OU doesn't like adding BYU to make 10 and worse adding teams like Air Force or Houston to make 12.

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    1. there's an infinitely small chance that the hold up might fuck up A&M's move to the SEC and force them back to the B12.....which is still a chance.
    That reminds me of the line in Dumb and Dumber where the girl responds to Lloyds advances by saying about 1 and one million, and he responds by saying, "So you're saying there is a chance" and being excited about it.

    A&M is done in the Big 12. Period, no chance they are there next year.


    2. they could end up with a cash settlement
    Possibly.


    3. they could be simply wanting to fuck up the Aggies SEC celebration party that was scheduled this week.
    Pretty petty if that is the case.


    Tell me why they should go ahead and give the consent to not sue.
    I agree with no waving their consent to sue. But just because they don't waive their right to sue doesn't mean Baylor would actually sue, i.e. a cash settlement or the rest of the confernce imploding.

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    Who's the "you" in this?
    The big12. If BU wants to keep their AQ status and keep the big 12 alive they shouldn't be obsessing over A&M (who is already gone) but instead letting us go and start working on the other 4 schools who have their eyes on the PAC to stay and add other programs.

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    Are you fucking retarded Blake? Every minute they keep threatning litigation and make A&M linger around here is ultimately hurting the chances the big12 stays together.
    The Big12 is not staying together....Why do you not understand this? I do not believe Baylor would be going through all of this without justification that OU and UT are on there way out, which in turn leaves Baylor without a conference.

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    Are you fucking retarded Blake? Every minute they keep threatning litigation and make A&M linger around here is ultimately hurting the chances the big12 stays together.
    You've been proven retarded in another thread so I think it's clearly you that is lagging behind here.

    Either explain how the Big 12's chances to stay together get hurt by making A&M linger around or simply ask questions to catch up with the rest of the group.

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    The Big12 is not staying together....Why do you not understand this? I do not believe Baylor would be going through all of this without justification that OU and UT are on there way out, which in turn leaves Baylor without a conference.
    That must be the case, otherwise this makes no sense. That's all i was saying. If they believe the big12 is already dead and OU is already out the door then they have nothing to lose by doing this.

    I was responding to the fact that threatening litigation would be the best chance for the big12 to stay together, it won't we are already gone... Letting us go quietly and working with Texas to keep OU and start adding programs would give the most likely chance for the big12 to stay together.

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    Does the new tv contract signed last year include Nebraska or Colorado? If ATM would have left last season they could have gotten past all of this. Instead, they wait less than 1 year after signing a multi-year contract to break the contract. How do you not understand why Baylor would be upset at this?
    I think you're confusing me with someone else. I never said I don't understand why Baylor would get upset. I know exactly why Baylor is upset. They see the big 12 crumbling, they know they're going to get left out so they want to at least get something from A&M before A&M's departure knocks over any more dominoes.

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    You've been proven retarded in another thread so I think it's clearly you that is lagging behind here.

    Either explain how the Big 12's chances to stay together get hurt by making A&M linger around or simply ask questions to catch up with the rest of the group.
    Hilarious the turnaround from the beginning of this

    "Lert a&m go, they aren't important"
    "texas holds the keys to the conference"
    "we will just add notre dame, arkansas or byu"
    "wait sec voted unanimously to accept a&m"
    "threaten litigation quick, it's the only way for big12 to survive"

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    Hilarious the turnaround from the beginning of this

    "Lert a&m go, they aren't important"
    "texas holds the keys to the conference"
    "we will just add notre dame, arkansas or byu"
    "wait sec voted unanimously to accept a&m"
    "threaten litigation quick, it's the only way for big12 to survive"
    It wasn't unamimous. KKK Aggy voted against you. There is no turnaround. Just more laughter.

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    Either explain how the Big 12's chances to stay together get hurt by making A&M linger around or simply ask questions to catch up with the rest of the group.
    Why doesn' baylor start working with the other teams (that aren't already gone) to help salvage and stabilize the league. Every minute they keep a&m around is hurting the chances of another program wanting to join or a current program leave as well.

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    So about Aggy independence, how the fuck is that going to happen?

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    It wasn't unamimous. KKK Aggy voted against you. There is no turnaround. Just more laughter.
    SEC voted unanimously to accept A&M.

    here is the quote from Ole Miss chancellor Dan Jones

    Mississippi Chancellor Dr. Dan Jones said the SEC felt the Big 12 letter offered clear legal standing.

    "We've been clear that we'd be happy to receive them if they're unfettered of obligations. We gathered to have a vote. We had a letter that clearly gave us legal clearance. It was frustrating to be gathered and then have things pulled out from under Texas A&M like that. We're disappointed for Texas A&M."

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