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to track them to the cartels ..how hard is that to understand stupid?
so let's assume they didn't track the guns, is that illegal? The whole point of the operation was to track the guns to cartels in Mexico... maybe you should broaden your news sources skippy..
god you are a dumbass.
to track them to the cartels ..how hard is that to understand stupid?
And you condone this? What was the ing point?
You condone GIVING ING GUNS TO THE CARTELS and you call ME stupid?
You ing moron.
the whole point of the operation was to track the guns.... they apparently didn't do a good job..they didn't break any laws..
So track the guns by not putting the guns in circulation and keeping them yourself.
There is a certain simplicity to it.
ok I'll slow down stupid, the game was to sell to gun runners who would then turn and sell them to the cartels.. (hint this inverstigation was started by the Bush administration) the US would then be able to locate cartel members from the purchased guns.. you do realize this was the basis for the operation, right?
so they didn't break any laws.. thanks for clarifying that your feinged outrage/ ing was for naught.. just a show
What is the point of "proving" the cartels use guns to commit violent crimes by giving them guns to commit the violent crimes with? Did any reasonable person think the cartels were using rubber bands and spitballs?
Where do you think they get the guns other than those involved in this operation?
Be specific.
moron
Don't be so quick to claim no laws were broken when the investigations aren't even close to being over. New facts are coming out almost every day.
It's really appalling that you guys support and condone the US government GIVING weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels.
and vice-versa
Were they equipped with tracking devices? I haven't heard that.
Tell me, how did the design of the "Fast and Furious" program intend to allow U. S. federal agents to track down cartels? It's no mystery cartels use guns. It's no mystery cartels kill people with them.
What is apparently a mystery to the U.S. federal agents in charge of this cluster is that cartels dump guns used to kill U.S. agents and, therefore screw up their plan. Guess they didn't see that coming.
They also seem to be oblivious to the fact the cartels don't give a that you're trying to locate them. And, I don't think giving them weapons with the hopes (there's that word again) you'll be able to find out who and where they are, later, when the guns turn up in their possession, is the best way to track them down.
Seriously, what was the plan between selling them the guns and locating the cartels in possession of them? Seems to me they cut out a pretty important part of the plan...tracking the ing guns.
If they had truly wanted to track down the cartels, they would have conducted surveillance on the transit of the guns they sold to the narco-terrorists.
Tracking down cartels, as an excuse, is laughable on it's face.
Surely you aren't THAT stupid. They are billionaires. They can get guns anywhere they want. Central America is loaded with AK's and AR's. Do some come from the US too? Sure...so ing what?
So some of the guns come from the US?
How does that happen?
Duh. They buy them and smuggle them out of the country just like they smuggle drugs into the country.
That is no reason to quit selling guns in the USA.
I am begining to agree with the dumbasses on this board..we need to start looking at the adminstration who started this prgram in 2006... who was president then? I would assume you guys who want to get to the bottom of it would want to start with who authorized it. Did Obama authorize this?
I demand answers..
So how do they do that?
Nice straw man.That is no reason to quit selling guns in the USA.
But, I think ChumpDumper actually hits on the real reason behind "Fast and Furious."
About the time this program was begun, Obama was commiserating with the Mexicans and advancing the narrative, but for guns going to Mexico from the United States, there wouldn't be so much violence there.
What better way to support that narrative than to insure American guns show up at Mexican crime scenes.
What better way to ensure American guns show up at Mexican crime scenes than to give narco-terrorists tax dollar to buy them, in American, and then wave buh bye as they take them back to Mexico?
I think that's the sinister objective behind "Fast and Furious." Obama needed to support his claim that American guns were the chief cause of Mexican violence and, thus, be able to start implementing gun controls domestically.
Thankfully, the program was exposed. Unfortunately, it came at the price of many lives, including that of one if his own employees.
Wait a minute..I thought your side believes that more guns are needed not less. In fact your argument is that if there are more guns on the street the safer we will be...
I think that's the sinister objective behind "Fast and Furious." Obama needed to support his claim that American guns were the chief cause of Mexican violence and, thus, be able to start implementing gun controls domestically.
you're just making stuff up left and right now..
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IMHO that was the real purpose.
Source?
By all accounts I've read, the practice of "gunwalking" wasn't ins uted by the ATF until the Fall of 2009.
Will someone tell me who started the fast and furious operation?
In the hands of law-abiding citizens. Absolutely.
It's a theory. How do you explain why they didn't bother to actually track the guns?
The practice of "gunwalking" does correspond to the time when Obama was blaming Mexican violence on American guns.
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