Why has no one been fired?

[George Gervin's Afro]

X2

IMHO that was the real purpose.

of course you would.. no proof needed just someone making the claim and the idiots slurp it up like a ...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Will someone tell me who started the fast and furious operation?

[Yonivore]

Will someone tell me who started the fast and furious operation?

You seemed to know a few posts ago but, again; it has already been established the practice of "gunwalking" which allowed American guns to traverse into Mexico unabated was ins uted by the ATF in the Fall of 2009.

That's probably the question you should be asking. Who started the "gunwalking?"

[ChumpDumper]

But, I think ChumpDumper actually hits on the real reason behind "Fast and Furious."

About the time this program was begun, Obama was commiserating with the Mexicans and advancing the narrative, but for guns going to Mexico from the United States, there wouldn't be so much violence there.

What better way to support that narrative than to insure American guns show up at Mexican crime scenes.

What better way to ensure American guns show up at Mexican crime scenes than to give narco-terrorists tax dollar to buy them, in American, and then wave buh bye as they take them back to Mexico?

I think that's the sinister objective behind "Fast and Furious." Obama needed to support his claim that American guns were the chief cause of Mexican violence and, thus, be able to start implementing gun controls domestically.

Thankfully, the program was exposed. Unfortunately, it came at the price of many lives, including that of one if his own employees.

yoni doesn't care about many lives at all, and really, the gun control boogeyman never came true when the Democrats controlled all of Congress.

Yeah, it was a stupid operation, but your conspiracy theory is even more stupid.

[ElNono]

CAIR is committed to ins uting Sharia law in place of the Cons ution

Source?

[boutons_deux]

US is World Champion Killer and World Champion Death Peddler

U.S. Retains le of "Lord of War" By Flooding the World With Weapons

The United States consolidated its domination of a shrinking global arms market in 2010, signing 21.3 billion dollars in new weapons orders with foreign countries, according to the latest edition of an annual report on conventional weapons transfers by the Congressional Research Service (CRS).

http://www.alternet.org/world/152541...paign=alternet

It's all about the Benjamins, not freedom and justice for all.

[hater]

"some guns come from the US"

[Yonivore]

**bump**

Will someone tell me who started the fast and furious operation?

You seemed to know a few posts ago but, again; it has already been established the practice of "gunwalking" which allowed American guns to traverse into Mexico unabated was ins uted by the ATF in the Fall of 2009.

That's probably the question you should be asking. Who started the "gunwalking?"

[ChumpDumper]

**bump**


You seemed to know a few posts ago but, again; it has already been established the practice of "gunwalking" which allowed American guns to traverse into Mexico unabated was ins uted by the ATF in the Fall of 2009.

That's probably the question you should be asking. Who started the "gunwalking?"

An assistant director of field operations.

[CosmicCowboy]

An assistant director of field operations.

That has been proven to date. If this is really the case, why is the Justice department and the state department stonewalling the congressional investigation?

[Yonivore]

That has been proven to date. If this is really the case, why is the Justice department and the state department stonewalling the congressional investigation?

, why wasn't he fired? Instead, they promoted him to an inaccessible position in Washington.

[ElNono]

That has been proven to date. If this is really the case, why is the Justice department and the state department stonewalling the congressional investigation?

Probably for the same reason they've stonewalled investigations in the past: politics. Like when the US attorneys were fired and the executive simply said they would not allow Congress to interrogate them under oath.

[DarrinS]

Too busy raiding Gibson guitar factories?

[boutons_deux]

At least all the US attorneys are not aggressively, relentlessly tracking down all those unfindable, non-existent fraudulent voters the Repugs are obsessed with.

[ChumpDumper]

That has been proven to date. If this is really the case, why is the Justice department and the state department stonewalling the congressional investigation?

Define stonewalling in this case.

[CosmicCowboy]

Define stonewalling in this case.

. You're kidding, right?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/do en...obe.php?page=1

[ChumpDumper]

. You're kidding, right?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/do en...obe.php?page=1

That was half a year ago.

Was anyone charged with contempt?

[CosmicCowboy]

Actually, I hold YOU in complete contempt for your pissy little arguments when the Justice Department is clearly stonewalling and I provided itemized proof. Yes they are still stonewalling and no, no one has officially been charged YET with contempt. Justice and the State Department are ducking and covering like a cat with the s. If you don't believe me then google is your friend.

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, I hold YOU in complete contempt for your pissy little arguments when the Justice Department is clearly stonewalling and I provided itemized proof. Yes they are still stonewalling and no, no one has officially been charged YET with contempt. Justice and the State Department are ducking and covering like a cat with the s. If you don't believe me then google is your friend.

Itemized?

You gave a link to an April 20 threat that appears to have completely failed. I guess Issa is a pussy.

It's cool that you and yoni share the same conspiracy theory that this is some kind of back door gun control scheme by Obama, but I'm not sure you want to be in that company.

[Nbadan]

Actually, I hold YOU in complete contempt for your pissy little arguments when the Justice Department is clearly stonewalling and I provided itemized proof. Yes they are still stonewalling and no, no one has officially been charged YET with contempt. Justice and the State Department are ducking and covering like a cat with the s. If you don't believe me then google is your friend.

Arrest the whole Bush administration and we'll talk...

[Yonivore]

Arrest the whole Bush administration and we'll talk...

For what?

[Nbadan]

Speaking of which..

Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston
Posted on 09.27.11
By David Edwards

Several members of the group Veterans for Peace were escorted out of the Old South Meeting House in Boston Monday night after they attempted a citizen’s arrest of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

“I went down in front and looked Donald Rumsfeld in the eye and said, ‘I’m making a citizen’s arrest,’” protester Nate Goldschlag told WCVB-TV.

“He lied us into Iraq. He lied about weapons of mass destruction. He lied about Saddam Hussein being involved in 9/11.”

Three of the protesters removed from the event were with Veterans for Peace and a fourth was a member of Code Pink. One protester was arrested outside the event for allegedly using a bullhorn to assault a police officer.

Link

I seriously think none of these guys should leave the country...

[ElNono]

For what?

Torture for starters. TARP should be on the table too, seeing how banks made out like bandits.

[Yonivore]

Torture for starters.

There wasn't any torture except for the crimes committed at Abu Ghraib which, were prosecuted.

TARP should be on the table too, seeing how banks made out like bandits.

You'd have to prosecute the Democrat Congress that passed the piece of law that authorized the program, as well...including, I believe, the current President.

[ElNono]

There wasn't any torture

Sure there was. The torture that the military currently calls, well, torture.

You'd have to prosecute the Democrat Congress that passed the piece of law that authorized the program, as well...including, I believe, the current President.

Sure.

Then we can continue with whoever authorized the secret NSA wiretaps, the snitch that outed a CIA agent, etc.