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  1. #61
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    Yes absolutely. In fact, I would say even more so at a high school.
    I would say even less so at a high school where the players didn't choose to play there.

    At least you're consistent.

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    Spanier doesn't get to finish out the year like Paterno?

    Interesting.

  3. #63
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    They should have not been suspended for the bowl game, it is an exhibition game. I had purchased all my tickets, travel, etc before the scandal went public. If those players were suspended I would have asked for a refund. You can't punish the fans for an exhibition game. The games they got the following year. No complaints.
    Players in all types of sports get suspended for doing something stupid at the expense of the fan.

    The tat players should not have been rewarded by getting to play in the bowl game.

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    & yet a PA. DA refused to file charges.

    Just shows to go ya.
    since when is a DA part of the media?

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    since when is a DA part of the media?
    Never said such.

    You were pulling evidence out of your wide asshole that came to you somehow from a grand jury indictment.

    I just offered that a PA. DA at one time refused to file charges.

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    Never said such.

    You were pulling evidence out of your wide asshole that came to you somehow from a grand jury indictment.

    I just offered that a PA. DA at one time refused to file charges.
    Right, you offered up the DA while we're still on my original question of "what media?"

    If you are just guessing that the media covered it up, just say so.

    If not, exactly who in the media is "just as culpable for the rape"?

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    I would say even less so at a high school where the players didn't choose to play there.

    At least you're consistent.
    Wasn't looking at from the standpoint of how it affects the current players.

    I looked at your question and thought of the overall impact something like that would have on the high school community. Obviously a smaller and you'd assume closer community than a major university. Students still living at home with their parents so the impact is real and hits very close to home. A high school football staff that probably has maybe 3-5 assistants unless it's one of those big 4A high schools in like Texas. So the coaches/staff work closer and more personally with each of the players. And all of the coaches are probably a lot more visible, at least with the parents of the actual football players. And while it may be a huge impact financially to the high school, it wouldn't have the same type of devastating financial impact it would a major university like Penn State that relies on its football program to make huge money and to provide for hundreds of jobs.

    At a high school, I think it's a bigger and more direct and more emotional impact on that smaller community. It would be right in front of every parent's face. And it would make more sense and I assume would be easier with a lot less bureaucratic red tape and less opposition to shut down the football program.

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    Wasn't looking at from the standpoint of how it affects the current players.
    I'm not either. A death penalty in high school would affect future high school kids that want to play football for the school that they are forced to attend.

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    Right, you offered up the DA while we're still on my original question of "what media?"

    If you are just guessing that the media covered it up, just say so.

    If not, exactly who in the media is "just as culpable for the rape"?
    & I'll repeat:::I'm as sure of Media knowing about it as you are that Sandusky did it.

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    I'm not either. A death penalty in high school would affect future high school kids that want to play football for the school that they are forced to attend.
    That's just part of the collateral damage a school faces when the school administration fucks up that royally. But to your point, make the kids at the high school eligible to play at nearby high schools, if they can make the team. They don't even have to transfer. Just give them that opportunity. I'm sure most school districts would be open to the idea so as to not punish kids who had no part of it.

    And remember that the "death penalty" at least in college is 1-2 years, not more. You're not talking about generations and generations of kids getting affected by the punishment. You're talking 1 or 2 senior classes.

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    & I'll repeat:::I'm as sure of Media knowing about it as you are that Sandusky did it.
    What media?
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    I think the Aggies have found their new coach. It's JoePaaaaaaaaa, baby!

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    Media. I'm not distinguishing it. People in Media knew and joined in a gentlemen's agreement to keep it quiet. Now they come out of the woodwork after the win record is acheived and start beating their collective chests wanting Paterno's hide. It's ridiculous.

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    You have to be a really special kind of retarded to seriously think the media was sitting on a story this attention worthy and jaw dropping but decided to do nothing with it. If you were the journalist who broke this story wide open it would make your career, no journalist would sit on this and wait for JoePa to break the all time wins record.
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    ^Please.

    They sat on the Tiger Woods story till she took up the 9 iron in public, MSM picked it up and they had no choice but to bleed him out.

    They sat on the steroids in baseball story until McGuire & Sosa bled us out then they bled them out.

    They sat on this one as well. The children were of no consequence.

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    Yes absolutely. In fact, I would say even more so at a high school.
    Why would you want to punish the kids for something they had no involvement in, rather than root out the adults with any role in it and rid/distance yourselves from said disgusting individuals?

    I dont think this has to do with PSU. It has to do with a sick, disgusting individual and the spineless cowards that enabled him.

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    ^Please.

    They sat on the Tiger Woods story till she took up the 9 iron in public, MSM picked it up and they had no choice but to bleed him out.

    They sat on the steroids in baseball story until McGuire & Sosa bled us out then they bled them out.

    They sat on this one as well. The children were of no consequence.
    They didn't sit on the Tiger Woods story at all. It only became public when people wondering why Tiger's wife was chasing him out of the house with a golf club and swinging it at him. Are you seriously this dumb?

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    I still can't fathom a guy seeing some 50 year old man porking a 9 year old in a shower and not trying to intervene, or, at least call 9-1-1. It defies logic.

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    Players in all types of sports get suspended for doing something stupid at the expense of the fan.

    The tat players should not have been rewarded by getting to play in the bowl game.
    Then I am glad people much smarter than you made the right decision.

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    They didn't sit on the Tiger Woods story at all. It only became public when people wondering why Tiger's wife was chasing him out of the house with a golf club and swinging it at him.
    That's my point, asshole. They wouldn't print it because they were making money on him and they weren't going to piss in their own Cheerios as long as he was carrying their water. But, once she made a public spectacle and MSM came sniffin', the ring of Media around him had no choice but to rip the bark off his ass. It was no longer within their sphere of control. They had not dealt MSM in on the deal. So, they made a dollar & dime beating Woods half to death.

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    They didn't know about it, retard.

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    And remember that the "death penalty" at least in college is 1-2 years, not more. You're not talking about generations and generations of kids getting affected by the punishment. You're talking 1 or 2 senior classes.
    k.

    either way, the NCAA has no business punishing the school for a crime having nothing to do with football/sports aside from the alleged criminal being a coach.

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    I still can't fathom a guy seeing some 50 year old man porking a 9 year old in a shower and not trying to intervene, or, at least call 9-1-1. It defies logic.
    Well when this 50 year old happens to be your defensive coordinator you might think twice. Atleast JoePa did

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    Media. I'm not distinguishing it. People in Media knew and joined in a gentlemen's agreement to keep it quiet. Now they come out of the woodwork after the win record is acheived and start beating their collective chests wanting Paterno's hide. It's ridiculous.
    yes, ridiculous is the word.

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    Why would you want to punish the kids for something they had no involvement in, rather than root out the adults with any role in it and rid/distance yourselves from said disgusting individuals?

    I dont think this has to do with PSU. It has to do with a sick, disgusting individual and the spineless cowards that enabled him.
    On the premise that the high school hypothetical involved the same type of 10 year cover-up, only punishing the individuals involved to me doesn't seem enough. That's just me. Innocent players pay for the for the indiscretions of others all the time. All the NCAA violations involving bowl bans and limited scholarships largely affect players who had nothing to do with the violations. But somehow you have to make the institution pay for those violations.



    You have to be a really special kind of retarded to seriously think the media was sitting on a story this attention worthy and jaw dropping but decided to do nothing with it. If you were the journalist who broke this story wide open it would make your career, no journalist would sit on this and wait for JoePa to break the all time wins record.
    There was an article written about Sandusky back on April 3rd of this year by the Beaver (haha it's called Beaver) County Times. That was 7 months ago. The national media has been sitting on the story. This story should have hit ESPN many months ago.

    http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...r-comment-area

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    k.

    either way, the NCAA has no business punishing the school for a crime having nothing to do with football/sports aside from the alleged criminal being a coach.
    Not punishing them for the crime. Punishing them for covering it up for nearly 10 years. That's an administrative issue that has to deal with protecting the football program. Seems like something the NCAA should punish imo.

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    ^Please.

    They sat on the Tiger Woods story till she took up the 9 iron in public, MSM picked it up and they had no choice but to bleed him out.

    They sat on the steroids in baseball story until McGuire & Sosa bled us out then they bled them out.

    They sat on this one as well. The children were of no consequence.
    lol conspiracy theories

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    On the premise that the high school hypothetical involved the same type of 10 year cover-up, only punishing the individuals involved to me doesn't seem enough. That's just me. Innocent players pay for the for the indiscretions of others all the time. All the NCAA violations involving bowl bans and limited scholarships largely affect players who had nothing to do with the violations. But somehow you have to make the institution pay for those violations.





    There was an article written about Sandusky back on April 3rd of this year by the Beaver (haha it's called Beaver) County Times. That was 7 months ago. The national media has been sitting on the story. This story should have hit ESPN many months ago.

    http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...r-comment-area
    Maybe cause there wasn't enough evidence and ESPN was worried about releasing something with severe accusations. There's no way they sit on this story if they knew how big it was gonna get.

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    lol conspiracy theories
    Nonsense. It's understandable. Media isn't going to cut their nose off to spite their face. Woods was a cash cow. McGuire & Sosa were cash cows. Paterno was a cash cow. They could protect & wait for Woods as long as he was at prime. Only his wife going nutty nuts ruined it. The call hit a police scanner and some wise ass heard it and came a runnin'.

    No real harm in the Woods case in all honesty. Without conscience by Media, but, it's America.

    And so it fucked up the records books forever more in the McGuire/Sosa dog & pony show. MLB knew too, but, couldn't stop themselves from fouling their own bed.

    In this PA., case the children were deemed powerless and "invisible" by everybody. Media wrote their own ticket on this one.

    It's fantastic is what it is.

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    Maybe cause there wasn't enough evidence and ESPN was worried about releasing something with severe accusations. There's no way they sit on this story if they knew how big it was gonna get.
    As much evidence as there is now. The indictment is sealed. Only the grand jury and Blake have the poop.

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