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  1. #151
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    If they get Williams, they'll have no chance to get Howard.
    Yeah, which makes Dallas the front runner for Dwight given all the recent drama with Orlando...

    ESPN radio just indicated that Marc Cuban didnt even attend the meeting with William (apparently was off record an episode of "Shark Tank") because he knew where the Mavs stood (or didn't) with Williams. Every indication is that Nets are going to open the season with Williams, Jackson, and Wallace. Not a bad line-up for AJ to work with.

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    Ferry is a boss

    He got rid of Johnson's contract getting back only expirings and still got a pick
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    Ferry is a boss

    He got rid of Johnson's contract getting back only expirings and still got a pick
    2013 Executive of the Year, won in Summer of 2012 tbh

    He's cleaning house out there, and I expect that knucklehead Josh Smith is next to go.

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    2013 Executive of the Year, won in Summer of 2012 tbh

    He's cleaning house out there, and I expect that knucklehead Josh Smith is next to go.
    Splitter, Bonner, Green, Blair for him?

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    Splitter, Bonner, Green, Blair for him?
    Smith is a very good player on a reasonable, expiring contract. Ferry's not going to take the same sort of package he took for JJ.

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    Pretty great move by Ferry if it happens and the details are accurate. He got rid of the "un-tradable" contract and didn't have to give up anything to do it (in fact he got cap space and a first rounder?).

    He gave up Joe, which sets them back from a player perspective. Joe, while certainly not worth his deal, is still a talented player. Getting Joe and Deron together I think is pretty solid (from a basketball perspective) IMO. Joe still has game left and while he is ball dominant, I think a lot of that was out of need (no real PG on his team). Pairing him with Deron could really open things up, plus that gives them two legit ball handlers and scorers. Not to mention, Joe and Deron is a pretty big back court and both have shown defensive capabilities (not on a night in, night out basis, but when focused).

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    Smith is a very good player on a reasonable, expiring contract. Ferry's not going to take the same sort of package he took for JJ.
    Agreed - but the package he took for JJ was pretty damn good overall considering most have to give up a pick and/or a good young player in order to dump a contract like that.

    But Josh is very productive, young still and like you said expiring. He should net something decent from either a pick perspective or player(s).

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    After two free agency days, still nothing regarding Spurs. They have been vaguely linked to some players (Camby, Ilyasova, Josh Howard) but that's all.

    While it's, off course, way too soon to push the panic button, it would be nice to have some true news regarding Spurs' offseason.

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    After two free agency days, still nothing regarding Spurs. They have been vaguely linked to some players (Camby, Ilyasova, Josh Howard) but that's all.

    While it's, off course, way too soon to push the panic button, it would be nice to have some true news regarding Spurs' offseason.
    If their primary MLE/BAE targets are Diaw, Lorbek, and De Colo, then I don't believe we'll hear much until the deals are done.

    Any other FA signings will be vet min types that won't happen until most of the real money around the league has been committed.

    Could be a very boring summer.

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    Mel & Bruno: What are yalls thoughts on the balance between winning this year and monitoring cap space for next year?

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    Mel & Bruno: What are yalls thoughts on the balance between winning this year and monitoring cap space for next year?
    There isn't a lot to balance. Re-signing Duncan is an obvious move and the rest of what Spurs can do this summer (MLE and re-signing Green) won't eat that much cap space.

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    Mel & Bruno: What are yalls thoughts on the balance between winning this year and monitoring cap space for next year?
    I'm pretty sure that they'll use both the MLE and BAE this year. That said, the only really damage they can do to future cap space is trading Jackson (I don't believe they'll ever trade Manu) for a longer term deal. I don't believe they'll consider that type of move unless a deep playoff run appears hopeless as they approach the trade deadline.

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    After two free agency days, still nothing regarding Spurs. They have been vaguely linked to some players (Camby, Ilyasova, Josh Howard) but that's all.

    While it's, off course, way too soon to push the panic button, it would be nice to have some true news regarding Spurs' offseason.
    Too early to panic but its been depressingly quiet so far.

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    There isn't a lot to balance. Re-signing Duncan is an obvious move and the rest of what Spurs can do this summer (MLE and re-signing Green) won't eat that much cap space.
    That's true although I was thinking more along the lines of the Spurs using the MLE and possibly doing a sign and trade for a player like Ersan that has been loosely reported where it seems he will make a decent amount of money.

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    Looks like JJ signing the with Nets didn't completely kill the Net's hopes of also landing Dwight. From Broussard:

    "The Nets & Magic are discussing a trade that would send Dwight Howard to Brooklyn for Briik Lopez, Kris Humphies, Marshon Brooks...

    Nets' picks that would be traded to Orlando would be 2013, 2015 and 2017, source says...."

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    OFFICIAL: Anadolu Efes announced the signing of Semih Erden who returns to Turkey after two years in the NBA

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    Another peripheral, if not underwhelming, off season link to the Spurs. This is from Stein (in pertinent part):


    "Sources say the Lakers -- as long as they retain Pau Gasol -- have an inside track to sign point guard Jose Calderon if the Raptors, as expected, must amnesty Calderon's contract to create the needed salary-cap space to sign Nash...

    Sources say Calderon would also have interest in teaming with Luis Scola wherever the Argentinean lands after ESPN.com reported Saturday that the Houston Rockets are actively trying to trade Scola. Miami and San Antonio are two more teams known to intrigue Calderon if he gets the chance to pick his next destination."

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...n-gasol-in-l-a

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    The Brooklyn Nets reached a verbal commitment with Croatian forward Mirza Teletovic on a three-year deal worth $15.675 million, according to sources close to the process.

    The Nets will use their full mid-level exception to sign Teletovic.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...al-sources-say

    Kinda hurts any chance of Lorbek signing for the BAE.

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    Damn. That's a hell of a lot of money for Teletovic. The Nets are throwing money left and right, it seems they're in desperation mode already but they skew the market along with a few others. Makes signing both Lorbek and Diaw a pipe dream.

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    Well see. The nets are clearly throwing stupid money around - JJ, Crash for 40/4, this...

    The real question regarding Lorbek is how much he can get in Europe, and in what currency. Europe and the Euro (even the Russian teams pay their contracts in Euros these days) have significant problems ahead. Remember, he can't deal with any other team in the NBA.

    Diaw we have to wait and see. I have a hard time seeing any team want to spend the MLE on him.

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    Just going up online and via SportsCenter: Raptors and Knicks' RFA Landry Fields have agreed to three-year offer sheet
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    PG: Parker, CJ, De Colo, Mills
    SG: Manu, Green, Neal
    SF: Kawhi, TMac
    PF: Duncan, Diaw, Bonner
    C: Splitter, Baynes, Blair

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    Still crazy after all these years. “And I love that,” Jackson said. “I’d rather play with someone like him, who plays hard and gets hurt, than someone who is afraid.”

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    7M a year for Fields? Smh at this market.

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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine

    Sources say that the three-year deal offer sheet to Fields, with the Year 3 jump a la Omer Asik, approaches $20 million

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    With Landry Fields and George Hill getting 7M per year, 4yrs/20M for Danny Green starts to look fiscally responsible.

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    Teletovic and Lorbek aren't exactly in the same situation. Teletovic's NBA rights weren't hold by a team so he had more leverage since he was able to talk to the 30 NBA teams.

    But yeah, it's a bad news.
    First, even if Lorbek has less leverage, Teletovic signign for $5M per year increase Lorbek market value.
    Second, Teletovic was Barcelona backup plan if Lorbek left them. Without their backup plan, they will try harder to keep Lorbek.

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    With Landry Fields and George Hill getting 7M per year,
    Have you found contract terms for Hill yet?

    4yrs/20M for Danny Green starts to look fiscally responsible.

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    Have you found contract terms for Hill yet?
    Just this:

    So hearing George Hill got a nice deal from the Pacers... said to be five years and better than the $6 mil offered in January.

    https://twitter.com/#!/stevekylerNBA

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    Landry Fields to his agent: "Wait... did you say 2 million or 20 million? Because honestly, I'll take either. I don't care."

    https://twitter.com/#!/sportsguy33

  29. #179
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    With De Colo likely getting the BAE, the possibility of getting both Diaw & Lorbek appears to be gone now, correct? At that point Spurs only have the MLE available to split.

    Danny does not have to be signed with the MLE, right?

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    With De Colo likely getting the BAE, the possibility of getting both Diaw & Lorbek appears to be gone now, correct? At that point Spurs only have the MLE available to split.

    Danny does not have to be signed with the MLE, right?
    Yes to all.

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