As for gold/fiat collapses:
I don't know the definite answer to either question.
I do know the underlying premise you are trying to get at is illogical. Been there, seen it.
Go ahead and make the assertion though. You know you want to. BUWAHAHAHAHA.
When you do, and I point it out as being illogical, will you discard it, or simply ignore the fact that I have shown the reasoning faulty, and try some other copy/paste or dimly recalled saw?