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    Don't try to put words in my mouth and then argue against the words you put there.

    Fuck off. You are just arguing to be irritating and I'm not biting.

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    Don't try to put words in my mouth and then argue against the words you put there.

    Fuck off. You are just arguing to be irritating and I'm not biting.
    Well, you're putting words into the mouth of the president and others and fighting those straw men.

    I can see how having your baseless theories questioned can be irritating to you.

    Bales wasn't lynched in Afghanistan. He's ahead of the game.
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    if they did it to us here, would it be inappropriate or uncivil for Americans to call for swift retribution for innocent lives taken?
    That doesn't make any sense. We are a country. Pashtuns want pashtunistan. They could care less about afghanistan. reports show... says the experts.
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    what difference does it make to whom they give their allegiance? a US officer went on a rampage and killed innocent people. they have every right to be pissed off. it happened in their backyard.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 03-22-2012 at 07:37 PM.

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    So someone from that village didn't blow up americans on the regs? Its asinine for you to put the two in the same situation.

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    did the people who got killed kill Americans? I've not seen that suggested.

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    IDK. Don't get me wrong. What the soldier did was illegal and inexcusable. But it was a war zone. Ft Hood is not.

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    (agree strongly)

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    Second prior assault cases surfaces against Robert Bales

    A Pierce County Sheriff's Department incident report obtained by The Associated Press quoted a woman claiming Robert Bales told her she was beautiful, then "pulled her hand to his crotch" outside a Tacoma, Wash., bowling alley. The deputy described Bales as "extremely intoxicated."

    The report says Bales began punching and kicking the woman's boyfriend. When the boyfriend raised one leg to stop the kicking, Bales grabbed the leg and pushed him to the pavement, according to the incident report.

    Each person involved in the incident was drunk, to the point of mumbling and slurring their speech, according to the deputy's account.

    Irish said that Bales was with a group that pleaded with her not to file charges.

    They told her Bales was drunk and if she "could be so kind" not to file an official report. "His friend said he was married and in the service, and it would destroy him" if she filed charges," Irish said.

    Irish said she met with a sheriff's deputy and gave him a written statement at the bowling alley. The deputy who took the report did not return a phone call seeking comment.

    In the 2002 casino incident, the police report says two security guards told Bales to leave, but he picked up a trash can lid and rushed the guards, punching one in the chest before they tackled him.

    Also in 2008, Bales was involved in a hit-and-run accident in which records show he ran bleeding in military clothes into the woods. He told police he fell asleep at the wheel and paid a fine to get the charges dismissed, according to court records.


    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-...=Google+Reader

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    "in war zone" excuse/pretext/mitigation in the comments above sounds like ALEC's/NRA's "I Feel Threatened/I Feel Bad So I Kill You" laws.

    Lots of guys have been "in a war zone" and didn't slaughter 17 non-combattants.

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    US says Sgt. Bales split Afghan killing spree

    U.S. investigators believe the soldier accused of killing 17 Afghan civilians split the slaughter into two episodes, returning to his base after the first attack and later slipping away to kill again

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-...=Google+Reader

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    This Alexander guy disturbs me. Knowing his buddy killed all those innocent people including nine kids and he still says one of the best soldiers I ever known. His grading curve is low to say the least. It's not like he pulled a Rambo and did all this as a civilian. he was still a active soldier. God bless

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    This Alexander guy disturbs me. Knowing his buddy killed all those innocent people including nine kids and he still says one of the best soldiers I ever known. His grading curve is low to say the least. It's not like he pulled a Rambo and did all this as a civilian. he was still a active soldier. God bless
    1. he's an officer.

    2. He's a lieutenant. That's like two years max in the military.

    3. He is in the same fight as he was in. Maybe the idea that these villages were just filled with bystanders are false. Maybe him having to help patch up one of their men's blown off legs has to do with it? Maybe it has to do with all the days of training the men. All the days of showing this lt how to lead and showing the soldiers what to do have to do with his analysis. I don't know. I think for him to say that and possibly destroy his career to he loyal to his mentor shows alot and says alot! A good soldier isn't always a good person. A good deployed soldier isn't always a good garrison soldier.

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...SGS_story.html

    Its a shame. They need better ways of finding the PTSD and TBI guys.

    that soldier should be executed...plain and simple..I don't beleive there's honor for everyone that decides to join the military...not at all...and even some ofd the soldiers will tell you that...some won't deploy because they think Obama is a Muslim and some are KKK and have their own agenda..before you get all up in arms just remember that people on the right do it all the time...ever heard of Don't Ask, Don't Tell...gay service members mean nothing to those on the right...
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    Robert Bales Charged: Military Scrambles To Limit Malaria Drug Just After Afghanistan Massacre

    Nine days after a U.S. soldier allegedly massacred 17 civilians in Afghanistan, a top-level Pentagon health official ordered a widespread, emergency review of the military’s use of a notorius anti-malaria drug called mefloquine.

    Mefloquine, also called Lariam, has severe psychiatric side effects. Problems include psychotic behavior, paranoia and hallucinations. The drug has been implicated in numerous suicides and homicides, including deaths in the U.S. military. For years the military has used the weekly pill to help prevent malaria among deployed troops.

    The U.S. Army nearly dropped use of mefloquine entirely in 2009 because of the dangers, now only using it in limited circumstances, including sometimes in Afghanistan. The 2009 order from the Army said soldiers who have suffered a traumatic brain injury should not be given the drug.

    The soldier accused of grisly Afghanistan murders on March 17 of men, women and children, Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, suffered a traumatic brain injury in Iraq in 2010 during his third combat tour. According to New York Times reporting, repeated combat tours also increase the risk of post-traumatic stress disorder.

    Bales' wife, Karilyn Bales, broke her silence in an interview Sunday with NBC's Matt Lauer, airing on Monday's Today show. "It is unbelievable to me. I have no idea what happened, but he would not -- he loves children. He would not do that," she said in excerpts released Sunday.

    On March 20, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs Jonathan Woodson ordered a new, urgent review to make sure that troops were not getting the drug inappropriately. The task order from Woodson, obtained by The Huffington Post, orders an immediate “review of mefloquine prescribing practices” to be completed by the following Monday, six days after the order was issued.

    “Some deployed service members may be prescribed mefloquine for malaria prophylaxis without appropriate documentation in their medical records and without proper screening for contraindications,” the order says. It notes that this review must include troops at “deployed locations.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...comm_ref=false

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