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  1. #101
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    So you now say that statement is incorrect and these aren't saying the same thing?




    *beep*beep*beep*beep*
    It's not the same.

    Now answer my question:

    Do you know the meaning and usage of the words former and latter?

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    It's not the same.

    Now answer my question:

    Do you know the meaning and usage of the words former and latter?
    Of course it's saying exactly the same thing and you know it. You just refuse to admit the inconsistency in your posts. You and Boutons clearly claimed "they" (the oil refiners as a group) shut less profitable refineries in order to reduce supply and increase the price of gas and increase profits.

    And yes, I know the difference between the former and the latter.

    You believe the former but can't provide a link to prove it.

    Thanks for playing.
    Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 03-19-2012 at 12:53 PM.

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    Of course it's saying exactly the same thing and you know it. You just refuse to admit the inconsistency in your posts. You and Boutons clearly claimed "they" (the oil refiners as a group) shut less profitable refineries in order to reduce supply and increase the price of gas and increase profits.
    Can't speak for boutons. I know I didn't.

    And yes, I know the difference between the former and the latter.
    Then tell us what the former and latter are in this case:
    You and Boutons said they shut refineries in order increase the price of gas and increase their profits.

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    Sure...you said you believed "they" shut refineries in order to increase the price of gasoline (the former) but then couldn't prove it.

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    (double post)

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    Can't speak for boutons. I know I didn't.
    Did you not say this?

    And if you lower the supply of say, refined gasoline by shutting down less profitable refineries -- prices and profits can go up.

    Also profits can be maximized by shipping prodict to the market that pays the most.

    This certainly seems to be the easier route for the oil companies, since that's what they have actually done.

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    Sure...you said you believed "they" shut refineries in order to increase the price of gasoline (the former) but then couldn't prove it.
    I never said they shut down refineries in order to increase the price of oil, just that it can happen as a result of the shutdowns.

    It can happen because it did happen.

    Thanks for repeating what I said several times so everyone can see your error. I don't know why your ego would allow it; I guess you really were stuck on stupid.

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    the leap from possibility ("can go up") to instrumentality ("in order to raise prices") is reasonable, but ChumpDumper did not make it -- as usual, CC puts words in another poster's mouth and runs him down for that, instead of for what he actually said.

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    lol conspiracy


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    Can you both agree the OP is full of ?

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    Can you both agree the OP is full of ?
    Pretty much what I was trying to do before CC rolled up.


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    I never said they shut down refineries in order to increase the price of oil, just that it can happen as a result of the shutdowns.

    It can happen because it did happen.

    Thanks for repeating what I said several times so everyone can see your error. I don't know why your ego would allow it; I guess you really were stuck on stupid.
    No, you said that shutting down the refineries increases the price of GAS and increases their profits. Nice try, though.

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    After all that spoon feeding?

    You're an idiot.

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    Cute picture. I feel exactly the same about you.

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    I can't make you less stupid, CC.

    Sorry.

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    the leap from possibility ("can go up") to instrumentality ("in order to raise prices") is reasonable, but ChumpDumper did not make it -- as usual, CC puts words in another poster's mouth and runs him down for that, instead of for what he actually said.
    Did you miss this one Winehole?

    So you're going to pretend that shutting down refineries doesn't drive up the price of gasoline for everyone now?
    Chumps cute straw pictures aren't changing the fact that he is trying to desperately backtrack from his original claim.

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    OMG you still don't get it!

    You reposted it and you still don't understand!

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    CC understands perfectly, it is chump that doesn't seem to get it. I will pray for Chump tonight. God bless.

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    CC understands perfectly, it is chump that doesn't seem to get it. I will pray for Chump tonight. God bless.
    No you won't.

    You didn't even read this thread.

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    OMG you still don't get it!

    You reposted it and you still don't understand!
    Yes, I understand that you stated that they (the oil companies) closed down refineries in order to drive up the price of gasoline and increase profits.

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    Yes, I understand that you stated that they (the oil companies) closed down refineries in order to drive up the price of gasoline and increase profits.
    Nope.

    I expected you could understand plain English. I was wrong.

    You're an idiot.

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    And now you say you didn't say it even though it's right there in black and white.

    make up your mind.

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    Seems like Chump is trying to guess at your opinion in the quoted. Does he reveal his own? I feel less certain than you that Chump is making the claim you keep trying impute to him.

    (RG's point about refining capacity steadily climbing showed your flame war with ChumpDumper as being totally beside the point wrt to the OP, imho, but I understand there's a history there...

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    And now you say you didn't say it even though it's right there in black and white.

    make up your mind.
    I've been quite consistent.

    It's right there in black and white.

    -- as is your complete stupidity. Repeated by you in black and white.

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    RG's point about refining capacity steadily climbing showed your flame war with ChumpDumper as being totally beside the point wrt to the OP, imho, but I understand there's a history there...
    Actually it fits in with the point I made about foreign markets for refined products. I'm sure CC doesn't understand that either.

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