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    Would the ratio of blacks to whites in the prison system also be close to 17:3 by chance?
    Laughably distant tbh.

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    Here, Chump. You like reductionist arguments so much. Do you agree with me, or are you defending this brutal killer? Which one? No other answers are possible.
    A false dichotomy is a type of logical fallacy that involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

    A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresenting an opponent's position so as to more easily refute it.

    Do you commit these fallacies all the time, or just this once?

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    Would the ratio of blacks to whites in the prison system also be close to 17:3 by chance?
    No.

    That is the incorrect question to ask based on the facts presented.

    Do I know you? I don't think we have ever gotten acquainted.

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    A false dichotomy is a type of logical fallacy that involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

    A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresenting an opponent's position so as to more easily refute it.

    Do you commit these fallacies all the time, or just this once?
    Nice troll, Winehole.

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    This even looks kinda like your avatar, Chump-Puppet.

    That is not a picture of a puppet. That is a picture of a marionnette.

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    It's not like Obama held a press conference to make a statement on Treyvon. He was asked by a reporter and answered. Has a reporter specifically asked Barry about the white tourists that were murdered?
    Are you aware that Obama has a well deserved reputation in the press pool of ignoring impromptu shouted questions? This is well do ented.

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    No.

    That is the incorrect question to ask based on the facts presented.
    Why is it an incorrect question? Your figures when counting only white and black show that 85% of those exonerated by DNA are black. When looking at the Texas 2005 prison population between blacks and whites, blacks comprise of 82.6% of the prison population. Looks proportional to me.

    One could say there is no significant difference in wrongly accused blacks vs whites when it comes to murder.

    Uneven Justice:
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    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 03-29-2012 at 01:14 PM.

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    Are you aware that Obama has a well deserved reputation in the press pool of ignoring impromptu shouted questions? This is well do ented.
    Has he ignored an impromptu shouted question about the murdered tourists?

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    wHY IS IT AN INCORRECT QUESTION?
    The "caps lock" key is generally located beneath the "tab" key and above the left shift key.

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    Nice troll, Winehole.
    it's not me

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    The "caps lock" key is generally located beneath the "tab" key and above the left shift key.
    LOL...

    I hit several incorrect keys, including the shortcut to post before I was done.

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    Facts regrets coming to the political forum, and needs a shower.

    Facts spends more time lurking in the Spurs forum and making fun of lakers fans.

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    Has he ignored an impromptu shouted question about the murdered tourists?
    Oh, I think several letters from the dead mans father trump even a shouted question...and don't pretend that those letters don't get read and NORMALLY answered by at least someone on the staff.

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    Oh, I think several letters from the dead mans father trump even a shouted question...and don't pretend that those letters don't get read and NORMALLY answered by at least someone on the staff.
    I think this will end in a national tragedy for the family. It became a national, and probably world wide story. I think in the end, the family will be seen as nations fools.

    Wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

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    When looking at the Texas 2005 prison population between blacks and whites, blacks comprise of 82.6% of the prison population.
    You read that completely wrong.

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    Oh, I think several letters from the dead mans father trump even a shouted question...and don't pretend that those letters don't get read and NORMALLY answered by at least someone on the staff.
    How do you know they are?

    You guys realize the major difference in the two stories, right? Shawn Tyson is serving a life sentence. There is no outstanding controversy here, except as a really desperate stretch to somehow find hypocrisy is a benign statement made by the President about a crime that HASN'T had a resolution.

    Seriously, are you guys kidding with this bull ? This is really pathetic.

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    You read that completely wrong.
    Then please enlighten us.

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    Then please enlighten us.

    The statistics provided are from the Fiscal Year 2010 Statistical Report of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. (Fiscal Year 2010 is the most recent year for which statistics were available on TDCJ’s website on November 4, 2011.) The statistics provided here represent only the inmates in the Ins utional Division of TDCJ; state jails and substance abuse felony treatment centers are not included.

    Total number of inmates incarcerated in Texas prisons on August 31, 2010: 139,316....

    Race
    Black: 50,811
    White: 42,190
    Hispanic: 45,607
    Other Racial Background: 708


    http://insidetexasprisons.blogspot.c...on-system.html

    That's 36.5%.

    Not 82.6%.

    You were completely wrong.

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    The statistics provided are from the Fiscal Year 2010 Statistical Report of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. (Fiscal Year 2010 is the most recent year for which statistics were available on TDCJ’s website on November 4, 2011.) The statistics provided here represent only the inmates in the Ins utional Division of TDCJ; state jails and substance abuse felony treatment centers are not included.

    Total number of inmates incarcerated in Texas prisons on August 31, 2010: 139,316....

    Race
    Black: 50,811
    White: 42,190
    Hispanic: 45,607
    Other Racial Background: 708


    http://insidetexasprisons.blogspot.c...on-system.html

    That's 36.5%.

    Not 82.6%.

    You were completely wrong.
    Do you have anything better than a blog, written by an inmate?

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    The statistics provided are from the Fiscal Year 2010 Statistical Report of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. (Fiscal Year 2010 is the most recent year for which statistics were available on TDCJ’s website on November 4, 2011.) The statistics provided here represent only the inmates in the Ins utional Division of TDCJ; state jails and substance abuse felony treatment centers are not included.

    Total number of inmates incarcerated in Texas prisons on August 31, 2010: 139,316....

    Race
    Black: 50,811
    White: 42,190
    Hispanic: 45,607
    Other Racial Background: 708


    http://insidetexasprisons.blogspot.c...on-system.html

    That's 36.5%.

    Not 82.6%.

    You were completely wrong.
    sadly those numbers would mean .25% of texas whites are in jail vs. 2.5% of texas blacks

    I blame mostly on the racist drug war

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    Do you have anything better than a blog, written by an inmate?
    They plainly stated where they got the stats.

    Are you so stupid that you can't understand where they got them?

    Do you need your hand held to start a google search?

    Let me know, I'm here to help.

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    I found the source in three seconds.

    Let's see if Wild Cobra can find it!

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    I found the source in three seconds.

    Let's see if Wild Cobra can find it!
    LOL...

    Like I said before Chump...

    You're losing it.

    All you had to do was point out that in my linked material, I used the wrong stats. The stats I used were the 667/100,000 whites vs. the 3,162/100,000 blacks. I took the numbers to be total population, when it too was by race.

    You are the one who stings people for using blogs... I repaid you.

    Now I will admittedly move the goal post.

    What are these statistics when only Murder apply?

    My gut feeling tells me they will be close to that 17:3 ratio.

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    LOL...

    Like I said before Chump...

    You're losing it.

    All you had to do was point out that in my linked material, I used the wrong stats. The stats I used were the 667/100,000 whites vs. the 3,162/100,000 blacks. I took the numbers to be total population, when it too was by race.

    You are the one who stings people for using blogs... I repaid you.

    Now I will admittedly move the goal post.

    What are these statistics when only Murder apply?

    My gut feeling tells me they will be close to that 17:3 ratio.
    Thanks for admitting you were completely wrong.

    Found the source yet?

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    The statistics provided are from the Fiscal Year 2010 Statistical Report of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. (Fiscal Year 2010 is the most recent year for which statistics were available on TDCJ’s website on November 4, 2011.) The statistics provided here represent only the inmates in the Ins utional Division of TDCJ; state jails and substance abuse felony treatment centers are not included.

    Total number of inmates incarcerated in Texas prisons on August 31, 2010: 139,316....

    Race
    Black: 50,811
    White: 42,190
    Hispanic: 45,607
    Other Racial Background: 708


    http://insidetexasprisons.blogspot.c...on-system.html

    That's 36.5%.

    Not 82.6%.

    You were completely wrong.
    When only looking at the black and white numbers, blacks are 54.6%. The 17:3 is 85%. Now is there a different incarceration rate for murder? Is there (and I'll bet there is) a different number of violent crimes committed by blacks?

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