Santorum: You cannot take American History courses at the University of California

[RandomGuy]

If WC had hung on long enough, Maddow found at least one school that did not offer history classes.

It was a medical college.

What an outrage!!! Medical colleges don't teach history!!! Holy what is this country coming to!!!

(edit)

To be fair to Santorum: There may be "7 or 8" medical or law school or similar campuses in the largest college system in the US, that don't teach US history.

The kicker here is that this is part of the common pattern of half-truths out of the right wing outrage machine.

7 or 8 University of Californiamedical school campuses don't teach history!

Half-truths like this are either ignorance or outright lying.

Which do you think it is, WC?

[RandomGuy]

Yes, I saw 7A and 7B. They are the ones that satisfy the high school requirement.

Two courses. One from colonization to the civil war, and another from civil war to modern day...

Not very comprehensive. like I said, they fulfill the high school American History requirement that students have before they enroll.

That isn't the "high school requirement" dipstick.

Satisfying the American History and Ins utions Requirements Before Enrolling at Berkeley:
Both the American History and American Ins utions requirements may be satisfied in one the following ways:

High School Course Work: By fulfilling the portion of the "a" subject requirement for freshman admission that consists of one year of U.S. history or one-half year of U.S. history and one-half year of U.S. government in high school with letter grades of C or better.

That means that you can take the course as AP before getting there, so you don't have to take it at college level.

Satisfying the American History and Ins utions Requirements After Enrolling at Berkeley:
NOTE: After enrolling at Berkeley, students who have not already satisfied the AH&I requirements must complete two courses: one course to satisfy the American History requirement and one course to satisfy the American Ins utions requirement.
UCB Course Work: By passing with a grade of C- or P, at Berkeley, after July 1, 2005, History 7A, 7B,

[Blake]

I'm doubting you satisfied WC's requirements

[Drachen]

That isn't the "high school requirement" dipstick.




That means that you can take the course as AP before getting there, so you don't have to take it at college level.

Random Guy is a Thunder Thief!

[LnGrrrR]

Maybe Santorum meant there was no class specifically called "American History" even though they actually DO have classes that cover American history. [/wc]

[Wild Cobra]

If WC had hung on long enough, Maddow found at least one school that did not offer history classes.

It was a medical college.

What an outrage!!! Medical colleges don't teach history!!! Holy what is this country coming to!!!

(edit)

To be fair to Santorum: There may be "7 or 8" medical or law school or similar campuses in the largest college system in the US, that don't teach US history.

The kicker here is that this is part of the common pattern of half-truths out of the right wing outrage machine.

7 or 8 University of Californiamedical school campuses don't teach history!

Half-truths like this are either ignorance or outright lying.

Which do you think it is, WC?

That was before the 4:04 mark I stopped at. I was asking if she mentioned more than the one she did.

Why do you make the fool of yourself by assuming?

[Wild Cobra]

The kicker here is that this is part of the common pattern of half-truths out of the right wing outrage machine.

7 or 8 University of Californiamedical school campuses don't teach American history!

Half-truths like this are either ignorance or outright lying.

Which do you think it is, WC?

Look, Santorum was splitting hairs, and I find it ironic nobody else sees that in this specification of a type of history, he appears correct.

[LnGrrrR]

Maybe Santorum meant there was no class specifically called "American History" even though they actually DO have classes that cover American history. [/wc]

Look, Santorum was splitting hairs, and I find it ironic nobody else sees that in this specification of a type of history, he appears correct.

[clambake]

keep your day job.

[Wild Cobra]

Is that anything similar to a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square?

I think the point here is that all loosely based American History classes offered were only of agenda types, and then on top of that, they satisfied "American Culture" rather than "American history" requirements.

Don't you see? le is meaningless. Culture and History have differences.

When you click on the link to any, what filed do they satisfy?

[Bartleby]

I find it disturbing that they don't offer a course led "Math"

[Wild Cobra]

I find it disturbing that they don't offer a course led "Math"

Yes, but if you click on Algebra, Geometry, trig, etc... I'll bet they satisfy mathematics, rather than culture...

[Drachen]

You are ing stupid.

http://registrar.berkeley.edu/?PageID=ahi.html

http://osoc.berkeley.edu/OSOC/osoc?y...Suffix+--&x=53

Is that anything similar to a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square?

I think the point here is that all loosely based American History classes offered were only of agenda types, and then on top of that, they satisfied "American Culture" rather than "American history" requirements.

Don't you see? le is meaningless. Culture and History have differences.

When you click on the link to any, what filed do they satisfy?

See the History classes linked above they satisfy the AMERICAN HISTORY requirement.... what is the agenda there? Is UC pandering to the "settlement to civil war" group?

[Wild Cobra]

See the History classes linked above they satisfy the AMERICAN HISTORY requirement.... what is the agenda there? Is UC pandering to the "settlement to civil war" group?

That's 7A... Not a 1xx, 2xx, 3xx...

I covered 7A and 7B already.

[Drachen]

That's 7A... Not a 1xx, 2xx, 3xx...

I covered 7A and 7B already.

First of all, you incorrectly covered those already. You thought that they were pre-college admissions requirements - this has been debunked by RG in this thread.

Secondly, you are basing your incorrect assumption solely on the University's numbering system. I was unaware that you attended UC berkley and are intimately knowledgable about their numbering system.

[Wild Cobra]

First of all, you incorrectly covered those already. You thought that they were pre-college admissions requirements - this has been debunked by RG in this thread.

OK, so I only said High School, but yes. I meant them as pre college requirements, and the 7A and 7B courses are available to complete that requirement. Minor error.

Secondly, you are basing your incorrect assumption solely on the University's numbering system. I was unaware that you attended UC berkley and are intimately knowledgable about their numbering system.

Am I? What class is there besides 7A and 7B that satisfy "America History?"

I was originally asking for help finding one because I didn't. Nobody as of yet has found one either. They satisfy "Culture." All you guys are doing is strengthening what Santorum said.

[Drachen]

OK, so I only said High School, but yes. I meant them as pre college requirements, and the 7A and 7B courses are available to complete that requirement. Minor error.

Am I? What class is there besides 7A and 7B that satisfy "America History?"

I was originally asking for help finding one because I didn't. Nobody as of yet has found one either. They satisfy "Culture." All you guys are doing is strengthening what Santorum said.

They are not pre-college requirements

[Spurminator]

[vy65]

someone should take WC's "don't euthanize me" bracelet.

[CuckingFunt]

Is that anything similar to a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square?

I think the point here is that all loosely based American History classes offered were only of agenda types, and then on top of that, they satisfied "American Culture" rather than "American history" requirements.

Don't you see? le is meaningless. Culture and History have differences.

When you click on the link to any, what filed do they satisfy?

I'd like to know what you think the differences are.

[EVAY]

someone should take WC's "don't euthanize me" bracelet.

[EVAY]

I'd like to know what you think the differences are.

Oh, CF, PLEASE don't ask.

I have almost split my sides laughing at this thread. First it was at Santorum. Then it was the respondents.

[EVAY]

More and more I think CC was right when he said that the purpose of Santorum's candidacy is to make people feel better about voting for Romney.

[baseline bum]

Yes, but if you click on Algebra, Geometry, trig, etc... I'll bet they satisfy mathematics, rather than culture...

The trig class doesn't satisfy any math requirement at some of the UCs, as it shouldn't, being high school material.

[CuckingFunt]

More and more I think CC was right when he said that the purpose of Santorum's candidacy is to make people feel better about voting for Romney.

I certainly hope that's the case. The idea that there is a large enough group of people out there who take him seriously enough to have gotten this far is more depressing than I can stand.