Santorum: You cannot take American History courses at the University of California

[Goran Dragic]

watching Wild Cobra act like he knows how the University system works when he's probably been on a University campus less than 5 times his entire life is gold

[ChumpDumper]

WC, I say this with all due respect and sincerity.

You're an idiot.

Worse than Santorum tbh.

Now I'm going to wait for you to say it was all a joke and look how you got everyone to google class schedules.

[vy65]

I don't think I've even seen German porn stars take a steaming piece of to the face like WC has in this thread

[Cry Havoc]

watching Wild Cobra act like he knows how the University system works when he's probably been on a University campus less than 5 times his entire life is gold

To be fair, Santorum has a J.D. and is probably one of the stupidest public figures I've ever seen in my life.

[CuckingFunt]

Do you think another accredited university will accept those as a "history" requirement?

UC doesn't have history minors or majors that I could find. If someone goes there, and takes these "culture" classes that are listed as "history" classes, decides to major in history and goes to another school, will those classes be accepted for their new major?

I think you didn't answer my question.

[Goran Dragic]

To be fair, Santorum has a J.D. and is probably one of the stupidest public figures I've ever seen in my life.

Santorum might be plenty educated, but he's every bit as much of an "Education is the devil!!!" nut as Wild Cobra is.

[Cry Havoc]

http://history.ucsd.edu/

http://history.ucsd.edu/

http://www.hnet.uci.edu/history/

UC doesn't have history minors or majors that I could find.

Finding would require looking, and looking requires a brain.

[LnGrrrR]

I've already looked and found some. Even Lewis and Clark in Oregon has some. Didn't save the links, and yes, my history isn't wiped yet, but I only have a few more minutes I can spend on the computer before I have to leave.

Well, when you get the chance, could you post the names of the classes? It might be that classes the prestigious "Lewis and Clark in Oregon" are functionally similar to those UC Berkeley provides. I know that when I took Tulane courses, they had the basic "History up to the Civil War" and "History past the Civil War" (course names paraphrased) courses.

[RandomGuy]

That was before the 4:04 mark I stopped at. I was asking if she mentioned more than the one she did.

Why do you make the fool of yourself by assuming?

Actually she mentioned the medical school at 3:51.

Either you didn't listen that long, or you weren't really paying attetion.

Sloppy.

[RandomGuy]

Look, Santorum was splitting hairs, and I find it ironic nobody else sees that in this specification of a type of history, he appears correct.

No, he's not.

Prove his statement. Get cracking.

I was speculating. You are doubling down without knowing what the you are talking about.

You do this almost every time you shoot off your mouth and get caught. You duck, dodge and try different attacks.

[ChumpDumper]

This is his statement:

I was just reading something last night, from the state of California. And the California universities, I think it's seven or eight of the California system of universities, don't even teach an American history course. It's not even available to be taught.

[awaits transcript error gambit]

[RandomGuy]

None of the nine general campuses in the UC system requires students to study the history and ins utions of the United States. None requires students to study Western civilization, and on seven of the nine UC campuses, including Berkeley, a survey course in Western civilization is not even offered.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...540817878.html

This is what Santorums stupidity is based on. (Edit)I would guess.(/edit)

He read an OP-ED piece and assumed he got the whole truth.

That, to me, is the level of intellectual rigor of the far right wing in this country.

(edit and clarification: this is where I found the link to the WSJ article)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503810

If these ass-hats don't scare you, you aren't paying attention.

Provably, stupidly, wrong.

[RandomGuy]

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...-things-up.php

Stephen Colbert...

[baseline bum]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...540817878.html

This is what Santorums stupidity is based on. (Edit)I would guess.(/edit)

He read an OP-ED piece and assumed he got the whole truth.

That, to me, is the level of intellectual rigor of the far right wing in this country.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503810

If these ass-hats don't scare you, you aren't paying attention.

Provably, stupidly, wrong.

It's the Rush Limbaugh method; take a conspiracy theory and make it true by continually bouncing it through the echo chamber.

[TeyshaBlue]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...540817878.html

This is what Santorums stupidity is based on. (Edit)I would guess.(/edit)

He read an OP-ED piece and assumed he got the whole truth.

That, to me, is the level of intellectual rigor of the far right wing in this country.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503810

If these ass-hats don't scare you, you aren't paying attention.

Provably, stupidly, wrong.

Irony. You're soaking in it.

[TeyshaBlue]

Dont get pissy. You knew the minute you posted a WSJ and a Democraticunderground link in the same paragraph you were teeing one up.

[RandomGuy]

Dont get pissy. You knew the minute you posted a WSJ and a Democraticunderground link in the same paragraph you were teeing one up.

Heh, didn't really see it until you noted it. Touche, it is a bit funny.

The link was there merely to point out the link (buried some 8 pages into a google search) of where I found the source material and figured out what Santorum was probably talking about.

[Blake]

This is his statement:

[awaits transcript error gambit]

I'd like to know what it was he was reading.

[RandomGuy]

I'd like to know what it was he was reading.

post 112.

Wall Street Journal, Op-ed, most likely.
Written by:

Mr. Berkowitz is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Ins ution and a member of the National Association of Scholars board of directors.

Or he was just repeating something he heard in a conversation.

Either way, santorum is an idiot for not getting his facts straight before shooting his mouth off. This isn't the only time.

[EVAY]

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...-things-up.php

Stephen Colbert...

Brilliant Colbert reference to the California primary!
Thanks for posting this.

This whole thread has kept me laughing harder than I have for months!! YOu guys are great!!

[RandomGuy]

on seven of the nine UC campuses, including Berkeley, a survey course in Western civilization is not even offered.

List of history courses:

4. Origins of Western Civilization. Three hours of lecture and two hours of discussion per week. Introductory study of major historical events in the origins of western civilization. Emphasis on class discussions, readings in the sources, and writing of essays. (F,SP)

http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/...ept_cd=HISTORY

What the was this guy reading to make *these* claims?

[RandomGuy]

In several English departments one can graduate without taking a course in Shakespeare.

The core of the major consists of six courses: English 45A-45B-45C, a course in Shakespeare

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...540817878.html

http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/...ept_cd=ENGLISH

[Blake]

post 112.

Wall Street Journal, Op-ed, most likely.
Written by:



Or he was just repeating something he heard in a conversation.

Either way, santorum is an idiot for not getting his facts straight before shooting his mouth off. This isn't the only time.

Ah. Thanks. Makes it even funnier/scarier.

[RandomGuy]

In many political science departments majors need not take a course in American politics.

Within the major, students are required to take at least one course (lower or upper division) in each of the five primary subfields—American Politics

I doubt I will find any differences in the other campuses.

http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/...ept_cd=POL+SCI

[FuzzyLumpkins]

List of history courses:



http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/...ept_cd=HISTORY

What the was this guy reading to make *these* claims?

Beat me to it.