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  1. #181
    Believe. Beanzamillion21's Avatar
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    Can E-Lo even dunk?

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    God damn it don't steal Lorbek from Barcelona Regal!
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    Yes, he does have a very good vertical, heīs not Splitter on that one. My doubīt if he can hold himself against heavier opponents as he seems quite skinny.

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    I'm telling you, its gonna be everywhere. I can hear the chants echoing through the halls and corridors of the AT&T center now. E-Lo -- E- Lo-- E-Lo!!!

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    E-lo ranking lol

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    Lorbek is a good player. Very good, actually.
    Who had his best season ever, ending up in Euroleague top 5.
    When the Spurs traded Hill, I thought initially it was for him, not Leonard.
    Perfect timing for him to get a nice NBA contract.
    I am warning you though, if you are looking for toughness, Lorbek is the wrong address.

    As for the Spurs, he is not a superstar, nor American.
    It couldn't be any more clear to me after the WCF, that the NBA is a superstar-driven league and a superstar, preferably a new and marketable superstar, is strictly required to even make it to the Finals.
    Indeed, a squad like the Spurs that played textbook basketball, to be shown in clinics, was booted because of that very simple reason.

    With Lorbek, Spurs fans will enjoy some more excellent basketball in the RS and possibly playoffs, and will be upset again when Stern -and the Kennedys and Crawford of this world- will decide that the Paul-Griffin timing has come.

    Life is simple.

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    this is not a sig ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Offensively speaking, they probably could.

    But it'll be interesting to see how Lorbek and Duncan work together defensively.
    True, they could be too slow to play together much, but we'd have to see. That's why Diaw would be kept and hopefully a young athletic big man would be found to replace Blair and/or Bonner.
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    If Lorbek comes, Bonner has to go. The last thing the Spurs need is a more advanced version of Bonner.

    Being that Lorbek has honed his skills in the European league, I can't envision him being the clutch time choker that Bonner is. Still, there's no room for having two guys with the same unathletic skill set on the roster.

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    If Lorbek comes, Bonner has to go. The last thing the Spurs need is a more advanced version of Bonner.

    Being that Lorbek has honed his skills in the European league, I can't envision him being the clutch time choker that Bonner is. Still, there's no room for having two guys with the same unathletic skill set on the roster.
    There would only be two reasons to keep Bonner at that point:

    (1) To give Lorbek time to adapt to the system and ease him into the rotation gradually. Only one of them should get PT, but we could keep the other on the inactive list.

    (2) Because he's untradeable without giving up assets, so it's easier to ride out the year with him permanently on the inactive list than it is to dump him.

    I could live with either scenario, though I'd prefer he was gone too.

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    Even if Lorbek wasn't coming, there is no need to keep Bonner around. He's occupying a roster spot and salary slot, where the Spurs would be better off with a young, more talented and cheaper big, who could actually contribute regardless of opponent.

    Now that Lorbek is indeed coming, I have to think this would almost certainly spell the end for the big red head. I can only hope the Spurs find some sucker of a team willing to give them something for Bonner. I really doubt that he has much trade value at all, but even a early or mid second would be better than nothing.

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    Spurs should trade any combo of Neal/Blair/Bonner to try and get a 1st rounder.

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    Spurs should trade any combo of Neal/Blair/Bonner to try and get a 1st rounder.
    That combo, at best, gets you into the early second round.
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    Never know. Neal has some value.

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    Never know. Neal has some value.
    The only first rounder I can see a team giving up is the Cavs at 24. They're horrible at SG right now, but they'll most likely use their #5 pick to get someone like Beal. They could add Neal for SG depth or Blair for a 3rd big option, but since they're still somewhat in a rebuilding process they'll probably want to use that 24 for themselves. Other than that, I don't see any other teams who we could pry a first rounder from.

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    If Lorbek comes, Bonner has to go. The last thing the Spurs need is a more advanced version of Bonner.

    Being that Lorbek has honed his skills in the European league, I can't envision him being the clutch time choker that Bonner is. Still, there's no room for having two guys with the same unathletic skill set on the roster.
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    I really doubt that he has much trade value at all, but even a early or mid second would be better than nothing.
    If we can trade him for absolutely nothing in return and not have to give up an asset in the process to induce someone to take him, I would be delighted. If we could get any pick at all in return I would be ecstatic.

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    Some of this lazy hook shots or layups I see Ibaka putting them in the 3rd row.
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    Never know. Neal has some value.
    According to who?
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    According to who?
    Me.

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    You're not making any sense. Lorbek and Diaw could play with either Duncan or Splitter. It's Duncan and Splitter who can't play together.
    I am. Offensively, they could, but defensively, as I said, I don't see Lorbek being able to defend power forwards, at least not with any degree of consistency. So basically, what they'd have is three centers. Somehow, I don't think they'd prioritize a 28 year old, third string center over their would-be starting power forward. Unless I'm off base and they do think Lorbek can consistently defend power forwards (in which case he could take Bonner's spot), the pieces don't fit.
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    this is not a sig ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    I am. Offensively, they could, but defensively, as I said, I don't see Lorbek being able to defend power forwards, at least not with any degree of consistency. So basically, what they'd have is three centers. Somehow, I don't think they'd prioritize a 28 year old, third string center over their would-be starting power forward. Unless I'm off base and they do think Lorbek can consistently defend power forwards (in which case he could take Bonner's spot), the pieces don't fit.
    Which would-be starting PF?

    Diaw?

    We're talking about getting both.

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    Great another spot up shooter to go with the rest of the spot up shooters that we already have.

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    He's more than a spot up shooter.

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    True, they could be too slow to play together much, but we'd have to see. That's why Diaw would be kept and hopefully a young athletic big man would be found to replace Blair and/or Bonner.
    Yeah, I still think Diaw is a priority over Lorbek. The 4 spot is a glaring weakness and Lorbek isn't going to help in that department. Not as much as Diaw would anyway.

    Young athletic big man replacing Blair or Bonner would be ideal. Think we need a RC miracle to pull that off though.
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    Ok our glaring weakness that you want scored 2 pts in the sixth game which was do or dies for us.

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    Can he rebound? That's the only issue.

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    Ok our glaring weakness that you want scored 2 pts in the sixth game which was do or dies for us.
    Signing both Diaw and Lorbek is the most clear cut and realistic way for us to bolster our front line. But lets face it, neither player is the defending, rebounding, lengthy, athlete that we need.

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    Can someone weigh in with a definitive take on whether we can split the MLE and LLE (or biennial or whatever they are calling it lately) between two players? That would be our most logical bet to actually pull off both Diaw and Lorbek signings.

    I no longer consider him a legit full MLE player at all after his play against OKC. All of his shortcomings were on full display and he had every opportunity. The hope with Diaw, as was said on another thread, is that he gets in shape over the summer. I would not bet the full MLE on that though.

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    Can someone weigh in with a definitive take on whether we can split the MLE and LLE (or biennial or whatever they are calling it lately) between two players? That would be our most logical bet to actually pull off both Diaw and Lorbek signings.
    You can split the MLE between two players.

    Really no incentive to splitting the LLE.

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